i could be wrong though, correct me if i am.
Sketch I did at a diner today.
yeah now she posts on dA only. How surprising.
I still have a grudge about that, mostly because she told me privately, 2 days earlier before that drama on this same thread, that I should work better and harder than usual.
She was entirely right about the 'I should practise way more and stop using my style a bit' part and I won't argue that, but it's more her "rage-quitting" (that happened just after) I am upset about, especially from someone who I consider to be really good and has a huge potential.
i rage quit all the time in video games i have zero tolerance for failure!!!
What I meant is that she loses some of her credibility to me, by completely overreacting
Especially considering she is the kind of person of being as 'harsh' as us, when it comes to critiques/comments.
You guys DO know that there are FAR better art communities out there then CC and where you can, you know, get feedback from talented people who does it for a living and so on? Communities that focuses on creating art and growing as an artist and doesn't focus on creating drama? Not saying that about all the users, but some sure are more interested in that then actually posting art.
tsofa.com (the society of figurative art, one of my favorites)
Seriously, joining one of them is like enough since you get so much feedback from so many artists on those sites.
ah thank you
CGHub is the Concept 2.0, where every good old artists left CA because of some major drama that happened 2 years ago and people migrated to CGHub instead.
I don't know about the others websites though.
Never said CC was better than any of art websites.
I personally look up at posting my stuff on CA/CGHub, though I won't rely on them too much (unless I got any kind of useful feedback/advices)
i know i'm a bit late here and i'm going to ignore the discussion of "THIS WEBSITE IS BETTER THAN THAT WEBSITE"
but i find it hilariously ironic that detlef was the primary poster and advocate of the "DA is shit. tom preston is shit. everyone on that site is shit. they can't handle criticism" thread but then when she got recognised on there she ditched us because she couldn't handle criticism lmao
tom preston mk2 minus the small penis
except i dont see how thats at all accurate? she didnt leave because she 'got recognised' nor did she leave because she cant handle critisism. she left because often the criticism was delivered with a heapful of negativity much like you're displaying now. she still gets plenty of cc from plenty of other places (not da). i know i'm fanning the flames but you're just being ridiculous, she's not even here nor did she make some grand exit or anything, she just left because she wanted to and you're still being shitty about it.
being an absolute tool spawns negativity
that's about it
ChestyMcGee and ADT's current behavior right now is a clear reason for why Detlef left.
I mean, she's not even here anymore, left in a mature way without causing drama and we've already discussed Detlef upside down and inside out in the past and yet you still feel like shit talking about her.
Just give it a rest will you?
Yes. Get over it. Do something productive for once.
This is turning into a regular Melrose Place.
Can't we just not take negativity on the internet seriously and understand that nothing said here really matters? I mean maybe I have the wrong idea, but it's always been my understanding that the internet sort of generates negativity by nature and it's best to just ignore it so as not to stoke up the drama flames.
I mean, I get where all of you guys are coming from, but seriously, it's the internet.
I think something that needs to be recognized is that to most people all Detlef is is a voice of negativity. For a lot of people the only things they've ever seen out of her are insults and sarcasm.
There's no voice to attach her to, no tone or inflection to glean her motives from. So, yeah, to those of you that actually know her what she says doesn't have quite the bite that it does to everyone else.
It's a simple issue of perspective and expecting it to not come up in a purely information based communication medium is naive, and expecting people to see things from your perspective when they don't have the benefit of your perspective is also naive.
I don't think people being harsh causes drama
I think people giving a fuck too much and too often causes it
the best thing about getting home from work early on a friday isn't just getting out early. it's getting to see what happens when someone mentions detlef in this thread.
Some people here are far too obnoxious and should seriously consider their attitude. Being an asshole for no apparent reason isn't worthy of even being here, posting, having an account.
Yet, however, we're off topic and I suggest we drop it.
Apropeau getting back on track...
I'm curious about your ways of sketching, painting a character in specific.
For example, I first drew white outlines and then filled it with black in a masking layer
why I did this was for the sake of control. I could draw however wildly I wanted near the silhouette and wouldn't fuck up and proportions.
For some reason I ended up with a mix of nakedness and clothes cuts as if wearing a vest. This was the plan, however there was actually more to the outfit. All the while the black silhouette always stayed the same, as well as the sketch proportion lines. The eyes were left black, and I used another layer ontop just to not accidentally fuck anything up. The same goes for the hair.
Another layer created and I let a (still WIP) dress grow out for playing with ideas, at the same time as I outlined an armor of a leather nature.
But what I really want to know is the pros and cons of this method, and maybe what you yourself go with or prefer. Destructive editing or a Photoshop file full of several layers? So far I've found this method being the most comfortable one, the easiest one compared to for example having black outlines instead of white ones, or skipping the silhouette and having loose boundaries of which one could stray from (beneficial or not).
So what are your thoughts? What methods do you use?
If we're going to play that "who is to blame" game, several of us are part of it.
But what has been done is now done, so I don't think arguing much further about it is going to change anything for her situation or us.
you know what this thread would be really cool with? some sort of drawing thingy where people draw together
(it would also make people more friendly to each other)
it's a metaphor for this thread
both me and det agreed that it was most likely that people were always more aggressive with her because she used to be really aggressive/no-bullshit herself. She's a big poster in the devArt thread and I'm sure all of the laughing/nitpicking that naturally happens in there didn't lend much to the image, but she's been way nicer outside of that thread for months, maybe longer.
My friend wanted me to draw a vulture/wolf type creature.
I tried to draw a rose.
C&C would be appreciated.
I added running and slowing down animations. How is it so far?