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    December 2005
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    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...ine-following/

    Editor’s note: The story below contains two slurs that appear in the names of subreddits. Links to Reddit may also contain offensive material.

    President Donald Trump’s administration, in its turbulent first months, has drawn fire from both the left and the right, including the ACLU, government ethics accountability groups and former Bush administration officials. But one group has shown nothing but unbridled enthusiasm for the president’s actions thus far: the over 380,000 members of r/The_Donald, one of the thousands of comment boards on Reddit, the fifth-most-popular website in the U.S.


    The subreddit, where posters refer to President Trump as the “God Emperor” and “daddy,” is arguably the epicenter of Trump fervor on the internet. Its membership has grown steadily since the 2016 presidential election, though its members were especially active during the campaign. They mobilized to comb through the hacked Democratic National Committee emails published on WikiLeaks and played a large role in spreading information and theories about those emails. More broadly, they waged the “Great Meme War”: an effort to get Trump elected by bombarding the internet with social-media-ready content promoting Trump or bashing Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton. Some of those memes played on Clinton’s campaign gaffes, such as her use of the phrase “basket of deplorables,” while others involved an emerging pro-Trump iconography centered around images of Pepe the Frog — a cartoon character with a convoluted history that gained especial prominence after it was co-opted by white nationalists as a sort of unofficial mascot. Members of r/The_Donald like to say they “shitposted” Donald Trump into office; regardless of whether the flood of memes swung the election, it did overwhelm the front page of Reddit to such an extent that the site’s CEO rushed to deploy a change in Reddit’s algorithm that limits the influence of any single subreddit.
    The data:

    What happens when you break r/The_Donald up into subgroups using subreddit subtraction? What happens when you add unrelated subreddits to r/The_Donald? Before we get into those questions, let’s take a look at the subreddits that are most similar to r/The_Donald, according to our analysis3:

    1.r/Conservative 0.741 Discussion of conservative philosophy
    2.r/AskTrumpSupporters 0.737 Q&A with Trump supporters
    3.r/HillaryForPrison 0.675 Extreme anti-Clinton commentary
    4.r/uncensorednews 0.661 News with a focus on far-right-wing views
    5.r/AskThe_Donald 0.634 Q&A subreddit run by r/The_Donald moderators


    r/Conservative and r/AskTrumpSupporters top the list, followed by r/HillaryForPrison, a subreddit that refers to Hillary Clinton by the pronoun “it” and notes in bold on the sidebar that “Putting It behind bars is fun!” After that it’s r/uncensorednews, a subreddit started by white nationalist moderators who found the existing, extremely popular r/news subreddit to be too liberal.
    There’s nothing too revealing in that list above — all of those subreddits are explicitly pro-Trump, anti-Clinton or politically conservative. So let’s use subreddit algebra to dissect r/The_Donald into its constituent parts. What happens when you filter out commenters’ general interest in politics? To figure that out, we can subtract r/politics from r/The_Donald. The result most closely matches r/fatpeoplehate, a now-banned subreddit that was dedicated to ridiculing and bullying overweight people.

    r/The_Donald – r/politics =
    1.r/fatpeoplehate 0.275 For sharing insults aimed at overweight people (now banned)
    2.r/TheRedPill 0.274 Virulently misogynistic subreddit, nominally devoted to “sexual strategy”
    3.r/Mr_Trump 0.266 Now-dormant subreddit formed during a moderator schism at r/The_Donald
    4.r/coontown 0.266 Open and enthusiastic racism against black people (now banned)
    5.r/4chan 0.253 Screenshots of 4chan.org posts


    Subreddit algebra isn’t quite as simple as A – B = C. It’s more like A – B is closer to C than anything else, but it’s also pretty similar to D and not far off from E. So when you subtract r/politics from r/The_Donald, you actually get a list of every subreddit in our analysis, ranked in order of their similarity to the result of that subtraction. We’re showing just the top five.


    And that top five isn’t exactly pretty, though it does support the theory that at least a subset of Trump’s supporters are motivated by racism. The presence of r/fatpeoplehate at the top of the list echoes some of President Trump’s own behavior, including his referring to 1996 Miss Universe winner Alicia Machado as “Miss Piggy” and insulting Rosie O’Donnell about her weight. The second-closest result, r/TheRedPill, describes itself in its sidebar as a place for “discussion of sexual strategy in a culture increasingly lacking a positive identity for men”; named after a scene from the “The Matrix,” the group believes that women run the world and men are an oppressed class, and from that belief springs an ideology that has been described as “the heart of modern misogyny.” r/Mr_Trump self-describes as “the #1 Alt-Right, most uncucked subreddit” — referring to a populist white-nationalist movement and an increasingly all-purpose insult meant to denigrate others’ masculinity — and the appallingly named r/coontown is the now-banned but previously central home to unrepentant racism on Reddit. Finally, coming in at No. 5 is r/4chan, a subreddit dedicated to posting screenshots of threads found on 4chan, where many users supported Trump for president and where the /pol/ board in particular has a strongly racist bent.
    There's a ton more in the source, worth a read.
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  2. Post #2
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    October 2006
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    Unsurprising results, pretty much just confirms what everyone already knew.

    Still, was an interesting read.
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  3. Post #3
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    July 2006
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    Interesting to look at, though I do wish they did some other political subreddits for comparison's sake.
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    June 2008
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    people unironically refer to him as "God Emperor"?
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    March 2009
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    people unironically refer to him as "God Emperor"?
    Why do you think we say it so sarcastically? At least that's why I do it

  6. Post #6
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    January 2009
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    people unironically refer to him as "God Emperor"?
    For evey seemingly ironic, insane shitpost that's come out of this weird neocon movement, there's at least a few people that unironically, whole-heartedly believe in it.

    It's often hard to tell when people are just having a go anymore, things have gotten that crazy.
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    June 2008
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    Interesting to look at, though I do wish they did some other political subreddits for comparison's sake.
    They did, if you read the source.



    tl;dr: The_Donald for Racists, Hillary for Feminists and Readers, Sanders for actual news and political discussion.
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    February 2011
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    They did, if you read the source.



    tl;dr: The_Donald for Racists, Hillary for Feminists and Readers, Sanders for actual news and political discussion.
    The fact that the Reddit feminists support Hillary over Bernie is heartbreaking. So many of my friends and mutuals within my regular feminist circles support Sanders, knowing full well what kind of dipshit Clinton is, yet the mainstream is following her simply because she's a woman and it was "her turn".

    Then again, it's Reddit. Not exactly the bastion of logic, is it?
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    May 2009
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    he subreddit, where posters refer to President Trump as the “God Emperor” and “daddy,”
    maybe i'm just overanalyzing things but i swear to christ the alt-right are the most sex-focused out of all the political groups out there

    you have cuck as an insult
    you have daddy as a complement
    r/the_donald occasionally has discussion about how much they want to fuck ivanka trump
    r/theredpill is all about being the alpha male to submissive women
    r/fatpeoplehate is all about shitting on people who are generally sexually unattractive

    Edited:

    The fact that the Reddit feminists support Hillary over Bernie is heartbreaking. So many of my friends and mutuals within my regular feminist circles support Sanders, knowing full well what kind of dipshit Clinton is, yet the mainstream is following her simply because she's a woman and it was "her turn".

    Then again, it's Reddit. Not exactly the bastion of logic, is it?
    It's only a very very very slightly advantage towards Clinton.
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    June 2008
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    Why do you think we say it so sarcastically? At least that's why I do it
    and i thought it was exactly that, a way to mock their idolization of Orange Combover, not something they actually used as a nickname

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    February 2011
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    It's only a very very very slightly advantage towards Clinton.
    Still, it's pretty saddening.
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    The fact that the Reddit feminists support Hillary over Bernie is heartbreaking. So many of my friends and mutuals within my regular feminist circles support Sanders, knowing full well what kind of dipshit Clinton is, yet the mainstream is following her simply because she's a woman and it was "her turn".

    Then again, it's Reddit. Not exactly the bastion of logic, is it?
    I question, was it considering before or after the primary when it was recorded? I'd expect a shift to Clinton after it considering the circumstances but I'd have to see.

  13. Post #13
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    October 2006
    118 Posts
    people unironically refer to him as "God Emperor"?
    "Any community that gets its laughs by pretending to be idiots will eventually be flooded by actual idiots who mistakenly believe that they're in good company."

    Probably the most worthwhile thing I ever learned from 4chan.
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    March 2014
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    They did, if you read the source.


    tl;dr: The_Donald for Racists, Hillary for Feminists and Readers, Sanders for actual news and political discussion.
    News and politics subreddits are so big I'd say it might be more that Reddit's population is more pro-Bernie than bernie people being more pro news or politics.

    And when Bernie supporters win over those subreddits, Hillary and Trump supporters go to their own corner.
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    October 2009
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    /r/kiketown and /r/coontown

    fucking amazing
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    maybe i'm just overanalyzing things but i swear to christ the alt-right are the most sex-focused out of all the political groups out there

    you have cuck as an insult
    you have daddy as a complement
    r/the_donald occasionally has discussion about how much they want to fuck ivanka trump
    r/theredpill is all about being the alpha male to submissive women
    r/fatpeoplehate is all about shitting on people who are generally sexually unattractive

    Edited:



    It's only a very very very slightly advantage towards Clinton.
    Maybe it's because sex (or more specifically reproduction) is the primary function of pretty much all things that reproduce sexually.

  17. Post #17
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    July 2009
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    "Any community that gets its laughs by pretending to be idiots will eventually be flooded by actual idiots who mistakenly believe that they're in good company."

    Probably the most worthwhile thing I ever learned from 4chan.
    It's debatable whether that's relevant in this case.
    You see, "God Emperor" was popular as a sarcastic remark very early on, but much of that came as a response to a forced meme where Trump's head gets photoshopped onto pictures of The Emperor from Warhammer 40K (which is also where that "are Warhammer fans racist?" thing came from), and that was primarily a Trump supporter thing.

    I don't know what the deal with "Daddy" is, though. Isn't that a Twitch meme?
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    It's debatable whether that's relevant in this case.
    You see, "God Emperor" was popular as a sarcastic remark very early on, but much of that came as a response to a forced meme where Trump's head gets photoshopped onto pictures of The Emperor from Warhammer 40K (which is also where that "are Warhammer fans racist?" thing came from), and that was primarily a Trump supporter thing.

    I don't know what the deal with "Daddy" is, though. Isn't that a Twitch meme?
    It's a milo meme.