It may not be an exploit, but it is deceitful, it's morally wrong, and it's siphoning players from other regions, players that could be otherwise playing on and maybe even donating to local servers that simply never got a chance to be seen because your server's are always at the top of everybody's serverlist.
tbh just write "redirect server" and i don't give a shit
Everyone on FP (aside from a few special snowflakes) are telling you to fuck off with your redirect servers. You refusing and pretending like you are doing nothing wrong is disrespectful to the community.
You are basically saying it's ok to evade over $10M in taxes because you donated $10,000 to a charity once or twice.
The more I think about it, the more you are behaving like Donald Trump. <insert unpopular opinion meme here>
Tbh, having hoops for server owners to jump through might not be the worst thing that could happen. It might weed out a lot of the shit we have in the community...
Just a thought lol
Some people have said earlier that this may not be the solution, but I fail to see a better solution. Our current solution clearly isn't effective, ie we have one or two people who can (?) ban disruptive or malicious servers, but they more often don't than do, and we get drama like this.
How is Stoned not a trump?
You seem more willing to defend Superior server's actions. I respect that. I think, though, that the comments about disrespect were about the promises were apparently made only to appease us, and that the intention to put it all back was there even before those promises were posted. Stoned could not have given a bigger "FUCK YOU" message even if he wrote it on a wooden log in his anal cavity in a pink permanent marker with shiny glitters and posted it stretched out in this thread in full HD.
I don't care how many contributions you've made by being a big community, you don't treat people this way.
Translation: Everyone else is doing it so I can do it too!
Stoned, if UrbanGamers and DivinityRoleplay jumped off a cliff, would you do it too?
You are the malicious one here, because you told us you would take down the servers. You DID take down the servers, then brought them back up.
Please see Falco's post about the wooden log.
Hello, can someone pm me the method so i can abuse this myself,
fix this shit and the clusterfuck goes away
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This is all of FP vs Stoned and King of Beast, why has nothing been done about this yet?
So, the only arguments I've heard today to support spoofing the player count is as follows:
"blame the gmod devs not the ones abusing the exploit"
"others are doing it so i can also do it why are you blaming me!!"
"wow ur just jealous we get more players than u!!"
"why are you only targeting us and not the >>2<< other servers also doing this!!"
Now, all these reasons are fucking idiotic and if anyone has any good arguments to actually support their actions (exploiting a vulnerability to gain popularity and more players/earn more money) that doesn't go against any of the arguments that were just listed then please do share them, as I'd love to hear what kind of bullshit someone can spit up at this point.
I see the drama in gmod hasn't gone, it's just changed.
My two cents: the same as everyone else. Grow up and run your servers properly without redirect servers.
Though, aussies complaining about ping isn't new either haha.
I've updated my PR to include DivinityRoleplay a while back, now to include UrbanGamers.
Done. Please show your continued support at https://github.com/garrynewman/garrysmod/pull/1343
This PR has more support than any other.
I'd love to see willox or robotboy weigh in on this in a way thats not a shitpost
It's a sad thing to see Garry's Mod turned into this.
A good community with a great playerbase is not created with redirect servers but with good content.
Redirect servers definitely shouldn't be allowed. Why else have a [ping] column in a server browser if servers will spoof it anyway?
Im just going to put my two cents in, it's unfair that they can be at the top if another server provides the exact same experience and that server is closer to the player.
Nobody here has a problem with Superior being popular, I think. I know I don't, and I hate their server.
Everyone has a problem with them spoofing playercounts on an objectively fake server to dupe the Australian playerbase, and so far we haven't had an 'official' response from the staff about what the action plan is to get it handled. That's my impression of what most people here are pissed about.
Alright so I will blacklist their duplicate server IPs right now.
If I will see any attempts to bypass the blacklist, I will ban your real server's IP and host name.
This includes everyone. Not just SUP and the other 2.
This brings me no joy, but it seems that people fail to understand that this is not OK.
Consider this your last warning.
To anyone saying I should just ban their real servers right now, while I definitely do agree that this behavior is unacceptable, I also don't want to hurt real players of those servers/this game.