1. Post #161
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    September 2009
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    I think this is a rather light description of booth babes. It's advertisers trying to get attention with cheap sex appeal... I really don't mind them disappearing from conventions. Cosplay is cool though 'cause at least it's related.
    That they got rid of it in the name of feminism instead of fighting against brainless marketing (something they're otherwise okay with) while their rhetoric is that of puritanism is contradictory, though. It might yield positive result regarding relevancy to video-games but the implied statement that wearing revealing outfits is harmful to women at large might as well be coming from the 19th century.
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  2. Post #162
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    February 2010
    14,782 Posts
    I think this is a rather light description of booth babes. It's advertisers trying to get attention with cheap sex appeal... I really don't mind them disappearing from conventions. Cosplay is cool though 'cause at least it's related.
    You're an idiot if you buy a game simply because a hot chick was trying to sell it to you, and they get people jobs. It is willing participation if you're a 'booth-babe.' I honestly don't see what's wrong with any of it.
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  3. Post #163
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    February 2009
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    A new Facepunching Gamergate stream will be happening next week on saturday, that's the 24th, at 10 pm GMT or 2 pm PST. I think at least. Fuck time zones. Anyway, there's a countdown on the video:


    edit: Oh, right. If you got any topics to cover or want to participate in the stream just hit me up either on Twitter or here via PN.
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  4. Post #164
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    February 2005
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    Hey guys,

    I've been working at a video game advertising agency for the past 6 months, but I just put in my notice fairly recently.

    I think Gamergate has gotten a little out of hand, but I can give some perspective from the ad agency standpoint, if you're interested!
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  5. Post #165
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    July 2005
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    Hey guys,

    I've been working at a video game advertising agency for the past 6 months, but I just put in my notice fairly recently.

    I think Gamergate has gotten a little out of hand, but I can give some perspective from the ad agency standpoint, if you're interested!
    Very much so.
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  6. Post #166
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    March 2005
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    Hey guys,

    I've been working at a video game advertising agency for the past 6 months, but I just put in my notice fairly recently.

    I think Gamergate has gotten a little out of hand, but I can give some perspective from the ad agency standpoint, if you're interested!
    cool, go ahead.

    I would like to ask in what area do you mean out of hand, here in FP or in general. FP isn't KIA or 8chan, so I'm curious and like to get other people's perspectives.
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  7. Post #167
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    September 2006
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    Apparently the Nightline piece actually aired a clip of a game store clerk who accused Anita of blowing the situation out of proportion and trying to capitalize on her victimhood. Can anyone confirm this?
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  8. Post #168
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    May 2009
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    I wanna see this too
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  9. Post #169
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    February 2005
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    Okay, so I used to work in a field that ad agencies call "Influencer Marketing"

    Basically, I pay YouTubers a lot of money to play games on behalf of clients. A guy like JonTron would be quoted at something like $20k a video. Smaller guys, around the 300k subscriber mark, tend to make $1k a video.

    It makes you question your life choices, doesn't it?
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  10. Post #170
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    I rather have a normal job. It develops skills you can later still used while YouTube gives you a bit of fame for some time and then you can turn in a complete nobody.

    It looks easy but as a job to make enough for a living it can be very demanding. And easy to fuck up if you don't prepare for life after YouTube, its like those millionaires that hit the jackpot that later get evicted out of their home because they can't deal with that amount of money.
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  11. Post #171
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    February 2005
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    I rather have a normal job. It develops skills you can later still used while YouTube gives you a bit of fame for some time and then you can turn in a complete nobody.

    It looks easy but as a job to make enough for a living it can be very demanding. And easy to fuck up if you don't prepare for life after YouTube, its like those millionaires that hit the jackpot that later get evicted out of their home because they can't deal with that amount of money.
    You're very right. There's a constant struggle to create content, and actually, a lot of YouTubers find branded content deals to be a bit of a reprieve from the constant creative process.

    YouTubers are some of the hardest working people that I've ever had the pleasure to work with, and one of the things I hated was to see them getting flak for doing a brand content video. I don't understand how people expect these guys to work for free; it's a full time job to be a YouTube entertainer.

    That being said, a lot of guys become very qualified to get into PR if they have a successful run as a YouTuber. That's the plan for a few guys I've worked with!
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  12. Post #172
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    Apparently the Nightline piece actually aired a clip of a game store clerk who accused Anita of blowing the situation out of proportion and trying to capitalize on her victimhood. Can anyone confirm this?
    http://www.joystiq.com/2015/01/15/ni...ne-harassment/

    ABC's Nightline aired interviews with Anita Sarkeesian, Brianna Wu, Tim Schafer and a handful of video game critics and players on Wednesday, in a segment titled, "What It Feels Like To Be A Gamergate Target." It presented an overview of the issues involved in GamerGate, including the portrayal of women as sex objects in games, harassment toward women who play games, the growing market of women within gaming, and the argument that all games (or players) can't be represented by a few extreme examples alone.

    Nightline highlighted "signs of change in the industry" with a visit to Double Fine co-founder Tim Schafer and a look at Broken Age.

    "Once you've sat down and tried to play a game with your daughter and tried to find games where she can play a character that she identifies with, you start to feel bad about not putting that option in your own game," Schafer said.

    Watch the complete segment below.
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  13. Post #173
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    December 2007
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    Nightline highlighted "signs of change in the industry" with a visit to Double Fine co-founder Tim Schafer and a look at Broken Age.
    Something something don't have to deliver a finished product.

    Schafer jokes just feel too tragic for me to continue earnestly making them.
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  14. Post #174
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    October 2009
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    http://twitter.com/notch/status/555789034941730816
    Notch posted:
    No, I'm not on your side. I don't care if "game journalists" are ethical; they never were, but I do care if you harass people online.
    Looks like Notch is anti-GG, given he's said that he doesn't even care about ethics.

    Then he also accuses us of harassment anyway, which kind of ruins the point- he's admitting that GG is about ethics and then saying that he doesn't care about that and is going to say that we're harassers?

    Edited:

    This is a bit of a shame since I like Notch, but it's upsetting that a guy so close to gamers fails to realise that Gamergate is not and has never been about harassment but simply trying to stop people being dickheads.
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  15. Post #175
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    March 2009
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    Dat same old unfounded line about how video games influence people, only they traded violence for sexism....
    didn't jack thompson use the exact same "hire a prostitute, then kill her and take your money back" line except say it caused violence instead
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  16. Post #176
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    March 2010
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    http://twitter.com/notch/status/555789034941730816

    Looks like Notch is anti-GG, given he's said that he doesn't even care about ethics.

    Then he also accuses us of harassment anyway, which kind of ruins the point- he's admitting that GG is about ethics and then saying that he doesn't care about that and is going to say that we're harassers?

    Edited:

    This is a bit of a shame since I like Notch, but it's upsetting that a guy so close to gamers fails to realise that Gamergate is not and has never been about harassment but simply trying to stop people being dickheads.
    It's because of /baphomet/. Hotwheels can't remove the doxx himself, but he removes them if you send a DMCA, even if they're false. A GGer that was doxxed sent a DMCA yesterday and he had his personal information removed from the thread.

    Yesterday, I sent two dmca takedowns with throwaway email accounts to remove the doxx of a journalist and a Ghazi user. The threads are gone now.
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  17. Post #177
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    It's because of /baphomet/. Hotwheels can't remove the doxx himself, but he removes them if you send a DMCA, even if they're false. A GGer that was doxxed sent a DMCA yesterday and he had his personal information removed from the thread.

    Yesterday, I sent two dmca takedowns with throwaway email accounts to remove the doxx of a journalist and a Ghazi user. The threads are gone now.
    watch as people ignore it and continue to say he allows them to operate unimpeded while simultaneously not doing anything to help get rid of the dox.

    just like another case with another board that now no longer exists on 8chan...
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  18. Post #178
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    October 2009
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    It's because of /baphomet/. Hotwheels can't remove the doxx himself, but he removes them if you send a DMCA, even if they're false. A GGer that was doxxed sent a DMCA yesterday and he had his personal information removed from the thread.

    Yesterday, I sent two dmca takedowns with throwaway email accounts to remove the doxx of a journalist and a Ghazi user. The threads are gone now.
    Honestly, doxxers can go fuck themselves. If people really want to find out who somebody is because they think they've done something wrong, they should give that information out to the police, not to random people on the Internet. That is literally asking for the person to get hurt. I don't care if you do it to TotalBiscuit, Zoe Quinn, or Joseph Stalin, there is no purpose in enabling vigilante 'justice'.
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  19. Post #179

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    Why can't hotwheels just delete that board and permaban its posters due to unethical/possibly illegal behavior? I know that's not his or gamergate's style, but they fuck up how gamergate and 8chan looks to people who don't know its nuances or how it works.

    Alternatively, we can use the doxx info to send nice things instead, letters of kindness or just polite discussion or whatever.
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  20. Post #180
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    Unfortunately neither will, retards from both sides are going to fight over this for days.

    Calling it now someone's already writing an article on how notch "speaks out against GG"
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  21. Post #181
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    Why can't hotwheels just delete that board and permaban its posters due to unethical/possibly illegal behavior? I know that's not his or gamergate's style, but they fuck up how gamergate and 8chan looks to people who don't know its nuances or how it works.
    If it's not illegal, it has the right to stay. This is basically the pitch of 8chan.
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  22. Post #182
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    Freedom of speech is like that ,you get good and bad and its up to you to decide how to carry yourself,it is no ones bussiness to police your thought or criticisms.
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  23. Post #183
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    You'd think they'd get the hint after a while.

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  24. Post #184
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    March 2008
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    Well it's nice to be constantly reminded where the majority really stands, sometimes it's hard to hear it over the megaphones
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  25. Post #185
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    July 2007
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    You'd think they'd get the hint after a while.

    Watch as they disable comments and ratings instead.
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  26. Post #186
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    February 2010
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    AGG has got to be one of modern history's most successful misinformation campaigns.
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  27. Post #187
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    Why can't hotwheels just delete that board and permaban its posters due to unethical/possibly illegal behavior? I know that's not his or gamergate's style, but they fuck up how gamergate and 8chan looks to people who don't know its nuances or how it works.

    Alternatively, we can use the doxx info to send nice things instead, letters of kindness or just polite discussion or whatever.
    It's pretty illegal if they involve law enforcement (swatting). I report those posts and the thread.
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  28. Post #188
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    October 2009
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    Speaking of SWATting, it appears that Izzy Galvez has been SWATted. Is this the first confirmed attempt to SWAT on an anti-GG person?
    https://twitter.com/iglvzx/status/554841443278147585
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  29. Post #189
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    AGG has got to be one of modern history's most successful misinformation campaigns.
    Just a easy story to sell, you just nod to a few people say what has already been said and never question anything or give the other side a chance to speak. Its merely exploiting the fact that 24/7 is more about quantity than quality.

    The ABC thing is boring, you keep hearing about this great problem of our time by people apparently "affected" by it (quotes because its to the reader to decided). Not once you see them walking into a random place and ask people on the street what they think. Only shallow attempts have been made to contact companies where these things need to be a real issue. The contact list of people is also extremely short for something thousands of females should be experiencing everyday. And the great one: What now? Great that you tell there is a problem, but what are we and you going to do about it? That really shows this went longer as people have wanted it too, it should have been this easy homerun proving all gamers are really really sexist and bad.
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  30. Post #190
    (Feminazi) (Queen of the Furrys) (Girl Power!) (Massive Faggot) (Queen of the Diva's) (Women's right's activist) (The Classy Lady) (Bigger, Badder, Bronyer)

    March 2010
    3,820 Posts
    Speaking of SWATting, it appears that Izzy Galvez has been SWATted. Is this the first confirmed attempt to SWAT on an anti-GG person?
    https://twitter.com/iglvzx/status/554841443278147585
    It's not confirmed. This guy regularly does fake images, and has posted no proof other then supposed documents. Example : https://twitter.com/iglvzx/status/55...784769/photo/1
    Until I see images of the swat van it's not reliable at all.
    He blames /baphomet/ as well for the source of the dox thread, so if he blames gamergate then that's disillusion.

    Oh
    https://twitter.com/iglvzx/status/555480394565287936

    Ah.

    The fact they can attach any REAL hate group to us and blame us for it is the most angering thing of all. It sickens me.
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  31. Post #191
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    July 2007
    9,529 Posts
    So NeoGAF is now banning anyone that uses 'PC Master Race' as a term now.
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  32. Post #192
    (Feminazi) (Queen of the Furrys) (Girl Power!) (Massive Faggot) (Queen of the Diva's) (Women's right's activist) (The Classy Lady) (Bigger, Badder, Bronyer)

    March 2010
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    So NeoGAF is now banning anyone that uses 'PC Master Race' as a term now.
    I really don't know their goal anymore, get as many people as possible to hate them?
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  33. Post #193
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    Wii60's Avatar
    April 2007
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    I really don't know their goal anymore, get as many people as possible to hate them?
    they are sony fanboys

    they are already the most hated thing in gaming

    4chan already did a vote on it
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  34. Post #194
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    March 2005
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    Speaking of SWATting, it appears that Izzy Galvez has been SWATted. Is this the first confirmed attempt to SWAT on an anti-GG person?
    https://twitter.com/iglvzx/status/554841443278147585
    opps I thought you meant lizzyf620. shited my rating to late, not because you're late because I had a knee jurk reaction. it's to rate myself. I don't know the details of the what went down.
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  35. Post #195
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    they are sony fanboys

    they are already the most hated thing in gaming

    4chan already did a vote on it
    That's quite a correlation you've found there.
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  36. Post #196
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    October 2009
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    Think we could strap a fundraiser together to start a few programs together to get women and minorities more involved in game development,could show AGG how to actually fix issues instead of bitching on Twitter about their patreon.

    Edited:

    As in start in middleschool or equivelent.
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  37. Post #197
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    Think we could strap a fundraiser together to start a few programs together to get women and minorities more involved in game development,could show AGG how to actually fix issues instead of bitching on Twitter about their patreon.

    Edited:

    As in start in middleschool or equivelent.
    I suppose the goal is not to change their mind, since they'll complain about us "weaponizing charities" anyway.
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  38. Post #198
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    April 2007
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    infinite chan twitter account suspended


    his alt twitter is: https://twitter.com/HW_BEAT_THAT

    Edited:

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  39. Post #199
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    infinite chan twitter account suspended
    For what reason?
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  40. Post #200
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    April 2007
    21,937 Posts
    For what reason?
    unknown

    would say its for posting the cloudflare emails, but anita did something similar and didn't get suspended.
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