1. Post #1
    It's Treason Then
    darth-veger's Avatar
    December 2008
    23,148 Posts
    I'd say that the trees are giving it away.
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  2. Post #2
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    September 2006
    603 Posts
    little bit of an exaggeration here, but still a beautiful game..unbelievable, never knew it looked that good
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  3. Post #3
    Apple extraordinaire~ ♥
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    November 2005
    22,927 Posts
    Too much reflection and high def textures!!!!!
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  4. Post #4
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    August 2008
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    shame it plays like a massive turd at the moment. obviously it's an alpha/beta stage early access thing but honestly it feels like it has been getting worse and less stable for the past few months

    best thing that ever happened to these devs was getting their crowd-funding shut down because now everyone can lap up trailers of how beautiful the game looks but never have the doubtfulness of actually playing this thing

    still, pcars has the best sound design of any racing game ever

  5. Post #5
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    GameDev's Avatar
    February 2010
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    shame it plays like a massive turd at the moment. obviously it's an alpha/beta stage early access thing
    Aww, I wish I bought into the beta before it was too late

  6. Post #6
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    August 2008
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    Aww, I wish I bought into the beta before it was too late
    in fairness to them there are certain cars and tracks in the game that are okay but they're still having some pretty bad tire model and input issues

    also depending on what level of access you have to the early-access, ie. how much money you pledged and therefore how often you get updates and how much is in those updates, you can end up having an unplayable game for a month - some people get updates weekly but i only get updates monthly pretty much no matter what. so if on the first day of the month they release an update where you can't even navigate the menus (this month), some people will get that fixed the next day but i have to wait until may to have that fixed

    they've got an amazing amount of content in the game for a beta but 90% of it is unplayable. this really makes me worry about their development because it just makes them look like they don't have a clue what they're doing. like they have 2 or 3 tracks and cars that they tinker with often, giving me, for example, alternate months of excellent bmw z4 and unplayable bmw z4

    it sounds like i'm ranting but honestly i do have high hopes for pcars - it looks and sounds incredible and has a great low-barrier of entry for a sim and with the promise of singleplayer careers it will really set itself apart from the other sim choices like rfactor and iracing which are multiplayer only

    but it kinda irks me that these days, since they locked the crowd-funding, all the public gets to see is 'wow amazing graphics this is gonna be the best game ever!' while i'm here wondering if they're even gonna manage to release the game on time because right now it's a mess
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  7. Post #7
    Dennab
    June 2007
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    also depending on what level of access you have to the early-access, ie. how much money you pledged and therefore how often you get updates and how much is in those updates, you can end up having an unplayable game for a month - some people get updates weekly but i only get updates monthly pretty much no matter what. so if on the first day of the month they release an update where you can't even navigate the menus (this month), some people will get that fixed the next day but i have to wait until may to have that fixed
    Sounds like money grubbing to me
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  8. Post #8
    I'LL NEVER STOP
    Dennab
    July 2008
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    One day there will be a racing game that doesn't have 2d sprite crowds.
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  9. Post #9
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    November 2007
    3,988 Posts
    One day there will be a racing game that doesn't have 2d sprite crowds.
    Remove the crowd.

    Problem Solved.
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  10. Post #10
    Hello Handsome
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    February 2010
    14,782 Posts
    It looks way too saturated and clean to look anything near real life, but damn if I'm not impressed.
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  11. Post #11
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    December 2006
    1,139 Posts
    How can real life be equasl to a shitty gopro camera together with youtube compression and low resolution/framerate video?
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    December 2006
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    -aaa fuck facepunch lagged duped my post-

  13. Post #13
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    February 2005
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    also depending on what level of access you have to the early-access, ie. how much money you pledged and therefore how often you get updates and how much is in those updates, you can end up having an unplayable game for a month - some people get updates weekly but i only get updates monthly pretty much no matter what. so if on the first day of the month they release an update where you can't even navigate the menus (this month), some people will get that fixed the next day but i have to wait until may to have that fixed
    I'm not a fan of the whole early access tiers fad in the first place, but that is the worst sounding implementation of it I can possibly think of and people shouldn't be encouraging it by forking more money over.
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  14. Post #14
    Ah yes "opinions"
    Jackald's Avatar
    October 2005
    16,289 Posts
    Those flat rock textures and obvious repeating textures give it away instantly lol. They're not even bump mapped, let alone parallexed.
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  15. Post #15
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    March 2008
    2,598 Posts
    You could possibly get a real car that shiny with some polish + wax. Otherwise they look the same to me other than the higher definition on the roads.

  16. Post #16
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    February 2011
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    I don't want realism in my games, I want style.
    If I wanted real-to-life graphics, I'll go outside for fuck's sake.
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  17. Post #17
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    March 2008
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    I don't want realism in my games, I want style.
    If I wanted real-to-life graphics, I'll go outside for fuck's sake.
    yeah, go outside and drive my $200k BMW M3 and drive across the ocean to a race track.

    Edited:

    its a simulator not a cartoon
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  18. Post #18
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    February 2011
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    yeah, go outside and drive my $200k BMW M3 and drive across the ocean to a race track.

    Edited:

    its a simulator not a cartoon
    I'd much rather have my sim look like Forza than a bunch of pictures. I'm not saying it should be a 'cartoon,' I'm saying that it shouldn't be boring to look at.
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  19. Post #19
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    March 2008
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    what??? part of simulation is looking real. forza isn't even a simulator.
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  20. Post #20
    Resident Beat Eater.
    wauterboi's Avatar
    August 2009
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    yeah, go outside and drive my $200k BMW M3 and drive across the ocean to a race track.
    I'd rather drive that off a ramp, crash through a building, enter the Matrix, find all the hoocruxes, defeat space and time, destroy the ring, do a 360 through String Theory, destroy Hitler, become a European Citizen, destroy gravity, speedrun Whomp's Fortress, boomerang around Xen, collapse into a wormhole, defeat the wormhole, enter a dream, destroy the dream, leave the dream, time-travel the 80's for a "tubular hot babe" and end at the drive-thru for a Jalepeno Burger. Reality is boring.
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  21. Post #21
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    August 2009
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    I'd rather drive that off a ramp, crash through a building, enter the Matrix, find all the hoocruxes, defeat space and time, destroy the ring, do a 360 through String Theory, destroy Hitler, become a European Citizen, destroy gravity, speedrun Whomp's Fortress, boomerang around Xen, collapse into a wormhole, defeat the wormhole, enter a dream, destroy the dream, leave the dream, time-travel the 80's for a "tubular hot babe" and end at the drive-thru for a Jalepeno Burger. Reality is boring.
    you forgot going to hell thrice
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  22. Post #22
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    December 2011
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    The scale in the game looks way off.
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  23. Post #23
    Dennab
    August 2012
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    Remove the crowd.

    Problem Solved.
    GT4 tried that and the tracks felt empty as fuck.
    Not a good feeling, honestly.

  24. Post #24
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    August 2008
    11,182 Posts
    Too much reflection and high def textures!!!!!
    .....too much high definition? please tell me you are kidding. you're telling me an actual racing simulator (not an arcade game, not Need for Speed, a fucking simulator) is too high quality?

    Edited:

    I don't want realism in my games, I want style.
    If I wanted real-to-life graphics, I'll go outside for fuck's sake.
    yeah but nobody gives a fuck about what you want because literally so few people have this opinion
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  25. Post #25
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    February 2010
    11,704 Posts
    One day there will be a racing game that doesn't have 2d sprite crowds.
    Dirt / GRID irks me because they only have like 4 crowd cycle animations and they're all in sync, so when I'm waiting for the race to start I have 25 people fist pumping me at the same time
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  26. Post #26
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    April 2011
    452 Posts
    for the real video, the curvature of the image caused by the lens gives it a greater sense of speed
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  27. Post #27
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    July 2006
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    There's lack of any shading or shadows,everything looks too flat.The road looks fairly decent if it's supposed to look wet.The trees still look like crossed planes though and repeat badly.
    If it wouldn't be for the hood and road reflections it looks like a ps2 game.
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  28. Post #28
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    September 2006
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    There's lack of any shading or shadows,everything looks too flat.The road looks fairly decent if it's supposed to look wet.The trees still look like crossed planes though and repeat badly.
    If it wouldn't be for the hood and road reflections it looks like a ps2 game.
    The game is in beta at best. This is from an Alpha(?) build, a shot that I took awhile back:



    There is a distinct lack of self shadows visible. But they have basis to make the game look even better as time goes on. They'll have it looking good before it's all over (except the trees, not one can make good looking trees it seems.)

  29. Post #29
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    August 2008
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    If it wouldn't be for the hood and road reflections it looks like a ps2 game.
    hyperbole much?



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  30. Post #30
    If someone calls you a whore, salute them!
    T-Sonar.0's Avatar
    July 2007
    13,396 Posts
    One day there will be a racing game that doesn't have 2d sprite crowds.
    Didn't Dirt 2 have 3D crowds?
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  31. Post #31
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    August 2008
    26,853 Posts

    the audio is insane

    Edited:

    Didn't Dirt 2 have 3D crowds?
    aye dirt 2 and 3 have mostly 3D crowds, at least for those near the tracks. the models are probably 100-200 polys or something like that

    pcars has some 3D crowd members too but they tend to be only specific ones that are animated to do certain things like wave flags. that said pcars is centered around racing at massive international circuits that hold tens of thousands of spectators so there's no practical way they could have 3D crowds

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    There is a distinct lack of self shadows visible
    you took the screenshot during cloudy, wet weather. of course there's going to be less self-shadowing - theirs no sunlight
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  32. Post #32
    The problem is the reflections don't seem to properly line up. I know the perspectives may be different, but the pCARS one's seems to include too much of the surroundings, like a cheap screenspace thing. Looks good, but not entirely convincing.

    pCARS obviously can look incredible, but it's not perfect, and not perfect all the time. The lighting certainly can look incredible. The road texture and lighting looked fantastic.

  33. Post #33
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    July 2006
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    To me all racing games have looked more or less the same since G.R.I.D
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  34. Post #34
    To me all racing games have looked more or less the same since G.R.I.D
    I've recently gone and played GRID. It's the pinnacle of the "gritty" 2006-2008 visual style of literally yellow and brown. Seriously, GRID looks so fucking monochrome it is amazing. And I usually defend game's styles.
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  35. Post #35
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    August 2008
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    I've recently gone and played GRID. It's the pinnacle of the "gritty" 2006-2008 visual style of literally yellow and brown. Seriously, GRID looks so fucking monochrome it is amazing. And I usually defend game's styles.
    now you've reminded me that f1 2010 exists



    bleurgh

  36. Post #36
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    January 2007
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    Real life has shitty road textures but the off-road parts of Project CARS are so shiny.

  37. Post #37
    Real life has shitty road textures but the off-road parts of Project CARS are so shiny.
    Looks wet and damp to me, in that sense it felt real, but the external environment didn't match.
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