1. Post #1841
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    no

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    Anyone know here if its possible to easily swap in a WMO's pcb into an Aurora? It looks like the PCBs are idential, the WMO has some different looking switches but they're in the same location.
    that was the entire point of the aurora pcb shape, to be able to just drop a wmo pcb in

    bst even made a wmorora whilst he was developing the mouse

  2. Post #1842
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    Found someone in Europe willing to make the perfect mouse for someone, so if you want a specific shape with a specific sensor then there's a guy out there willing to do it, it has to be multi PCB though.

    I'm getting a 3366 Kinzu w/ D2F-01Fs.

  3. Post #1843
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    You're probably better off waiting for bstmouse 2.0 and sticking D2F-01F's in it.

    Edited:

    also 3668>3366

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    You're probably better off waiting for bstmouse 2.0 and sticking D2F-01F's in it.

    Edited:

    also 3668>3366
    Rather not wait for a mouse that may never arrive at my door, will not have the Aurora shape, will not have the native 50 CPI increments, can possibly have firmware written by a Chinese child if he doesn't change MCU, and etc.

    It might not even be a small mouse, and I have baby hands. I'd much rather have a mouse I know works with my hand and pay a little bit more.

  5. Post #1845
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    BlueTrack is what they were using in the IME 4.0, it's not that great and is locked at 125Hz polling rate iirc, for office work that mouse will be fine, for gaming it will probably be terrible.
    OK, I'm only planning on using if for Surface pro and doing 3D stuff.

  6. Post #1846
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    Looking for a good mouse under 30 USD, how is the G300s?

  7. Post #1847
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    Went to a Microsoft shop and I still can't tell the difference between this mouse and this mouse. Apart paying more for $30 more for taller middle bit and a the lighter grey, I can't see any real difference.

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    Looking for a good mouse under 30 USD, how is the G300s?
    G300s is fine, has the same debounce delay as the G303 without the lift-off delay (so 1ms, 25ms release delay) but the sensor position is pretty bad, I would recommend a G100s over it if you find the egg shape comfortable and can find it cheap enough (I got mine for $9) because you can buy 3 of them for dirt cheap and they should last you at least 2 years.

  9. Post #1849
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    Finally got my replacement mouse feet for my G502 (hotline competition).

    Pretty good, definitely an improvement over the stock ones.
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  10. Post #1850
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    potato peel is better than most stock feet
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  11. Post #1851
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    Okay, I decided to buy the G300s. I love it, playing games with this is so much more comfortable now. No regrets at all.

  12. Post #1852
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    Okay, I decided to buy the G300s. I love it, playing games with this is so much more comfortable now. No regrets at all.
    But is it accurate?

  13. Post #1853
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    But is it accurate?
    Yes. Now it is much easier to aim in FPS compared to the last one I was using (Microsoft Deisgner Bluetooth Mouse). No problems so far outside of games either.

  14. Post #1854
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    Yes. Now it is much easier to aim in FPS compared to the last one I was using (Microsoft Deisgner Bluetooth Mouse). No problems so far outside of games either.
    but it doesn't even have a 1px deadzone how can it be truly accurate ? ? ?

  15. Post #1855
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    but it doesn't even have a 1px deadzone how can it be truly accurate ? ? ?
    Chubbs ur scaring off the fresh blood.

  16. Post #1856
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    Chubbs ur scaring off the fresh blood.
    whoops

    what happened to your avatar?

  17. Post #1857
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    whoops

    what happened to your avatar?
    I had to prove a point to someone. I haven't even had avatars turned on for over a year so I keep forgetting I did that though.

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    Yes. Now it is much easier to aim in FPS compared to the last one I was using (Microsoft Deisgner Bluetooth Mouse). No problems so far outside of games either.
    You're getting baited by Chubbs. I said something stupid when I was new, so now it's a shitpost meme. Good to hear though, upgrading from a wireless mouse to a proper gaming mouse is always such a big difference.
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  19. Post #1859
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    I upgraded from this piece of shit Zowie to this surface bluetooth mouse. So much gooder.

    Edited:

    I actually do need to find a compact bluetooth mouse for my SP3 though...
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    Who the fuck made this?
    G500 god tier but MX518 good tier?
    DA + DA:BE decent tier but the Ikari is good tier?
    Seiph 3200 "decent tier" with that 0.3m/s malfunction speed on cloth?
    Any Corsair mouse above "stupid tier"?
    Sensei, G9x, Spawn, and Xai are god tier?

    A god damn idiot made this.
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  21. Post #1861
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    At least they have the Kinzu in the right place
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  22. Post #1862
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    Who the fuck made this?
    G500 god tier but MX518 good tier?
    DA + DA:BE decent tier but the Ikari is good tier?
    Seiph 3200 "decent tier" with that 0.3m/s malfunction speed on cloth?
    Any Corsair mouse above "stupid tier"?
    Sensei, G9x, Spawn, and Xai are god tier?

    A god damn idiot made this.
    the god9x

    the only correctly placed mice on there are the ime/kinzu/mamba/sidewinder x9 and the rat shit
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  23. Post #1863
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    You guys bully the Kinzu too much, it's trying its best okay
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  24. Post #1864
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    So I bought a Zowie EC1-A and I'm having issue where it just occasionally doesn't register slight movements. Is that a known issue for the mouse? Should I return it and try it again, or would I be better off with something else?

  25. Post #1865
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    Who the fuck made this?
    G500 god tier but MX518 good tier?
    DA + DA:BE decent tier but the Ikari is good tier?
    Seiph 3200 "decent tier" with that 0.3m/s malfunction speed on cloth?
    Any Corsair mouse above "stupid tier"?
    Sensei, G9x, Spawn, and Xai are god tier?

    A god damn idiot made this.
    At least the Kinzu is where it belongs, am I right?
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  26. Post #1866
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    You're getting baited by Chubbs. I said something stupid when I was new, so now it's a shitpost meme. Good to hear though, upgrading from a wireless mouse to a proper gaming mouse is always such a big difference.
    Haha, I knew I was new in this thread when I had no idea what they were saying

    At home I use the Microsoft Basic Optical Mouse, connected by PS/2 because my desktop's motherboard from 2016 still has PS/2 ports and the USB ports are used up. That mouse is pretty good for how cheap it is, but I will have to compare between it and the G300s I bought when I go home. The G300s will probably win though, considering the amount of buttons and the DPI.

  27. Post #1867
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    So does anyone know of any quality chinese mice ? Some bloke on the internet said that the stuff that they export is shite but the electronics chinese sell locally can rival those expensive brands like Razer, Logitech and etc, that I can't afford. I only need a mouse with 3 buttons (none of that sidebuttons and macros jazz ), a scrollwheel and maybe a button to change dpi setting.
    Any brands you guys can recommend, or perhaps there's some cheap western equivalents for less than 20 euros ?

    I am of course doing my own research too as we speak, just if someone's got a sure recommendation then I'm all ears.

  28. Post #1868
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    Who the fuck made this?
    G500 god tier but MX518 good tier?
    DA + DA:BE decent tier but the Ikari is good tier?
    Seiph 3200 "decent tier" with that 0.3m/s malfunction speed on cloth?
    Any Corsair mouse above "stupid tier"?
    Sensei, G9x, Spawn, and Xai are god tier?

    A god damn idiot made this.
    This seems a bit old because the G700s isn't there and it should be better than the G700.

  29. Post #1869
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    This seems a bit old because the G700s isn't there and it should be better than the G700.
    if thats the issue you find with it then i dont know what to say

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    So does anyone know of any quality chinese mice ? Some bloke on the internet said that the stuff that they export is shite but the electronics chinese sell locally can rival those expensive brands like Razer, Logitech and etc, that I can't afford. I only need a mouse with 3 buttons (none of that sidebuttons and macros jazz ), a scrollwheel and maybe a button to change dpi setting.
    Any brands you guys can recommend, or perhaps there's some cheap western equivalents for less than 20 euros ?

    I am of course doing my own research too as we speak, just if someone's got a sure recommendation then I'm all ears.
    read the cheap section in the op

    me and reyjr spent ages on it so use it please

    Either way for 20 euros the only mouse you're getting new that's any good is the Ninox Aurora, which you can read about in the OP. Other than that you're looking at getting stuff off eBay (G100s, WMO, IME 3.0, Deathadder 3G V2).

    Also the Chinese export the exact same mice that they sell domestically, but for like half the price.

  30. Post #1870
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    Who the fuck made this?
    G500 god tier but MX518 good tier?
    DA + DA:BE decent tier but the Ikari is good tier?
    Seiph 3200 "decent tier" with that 0.3m/s malfunction speed on cloth?
    Any Corsair mouse above "stupid tier"?
    Sensei, G9x, Spawn, and Xai are god tier?

    A god damn idiot made this.
    You should make such a guide tbh
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  31. Post #1871
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    if thats the issue you find with it then i dont know what to say

    Edited:

    Also the Chinese export the exact same mice that they sell domestically, but for like half the price.
    Went with chinese knockoff Deathadder 3g, with quality and performance close to originals according to reviews. Even if it happens to be shite, it cant be worse than the usual 3 to 5 euro acme or gembird mice that I use.
    Thank you for suggestions, and sorry for not reading op thoroughly. Really appreciate it.

  32. Post #1872
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    Highly recommend the Steelseries Rival 100 or Rival 300!

  33. Post #1873
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    Highly recommend the Steelseries Rival 100 or Rival 300!
    Rival 100 is overpriced.

    You should make such a guide tbh
    Good idea. Would help reduce the wall of text that is OP.

    if thats the issue you find with it then i dont know what to say

    Edited:
    read the cheap section in the op

    me and reyjr spent ages on it so use it please

    Either way for 20 euros the only mouse you're getting new that's any good is the Ninox Aurora, which you can read about in the OP. Other than that you're looking at getting stuff off eBay (G100s, WMO, IME 3.0, Deathadder 3G V2).

    Also the Chinese export the exact same mice that they sell domestically, but for like half the price.
    I got my G100s for $9 new off of eBay. I got a Razer DA:BE for $16 shipped, used though. Can't go wrong with sites like that as long as you're patient.

  34. Post #1874
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    The problem with an image guide is that we'd just end up sticking all the text on it anyway.

  35. Post #1875
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    if thats the issue you find with it then i dont know what to say

    That is obviously not the only issue I see with it

  36. Post #1876
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    Went with chinese knockoff Deathadder 3g, with quality and performance close to originals according to reviews. Even if it happens to be shite, it cant be worse than the usual 3 to 5 euro acme or gembird mice that I use.
    Thank you for suggestions, and sorry for not reading op thoroughly. Really appreciate it.
    I wouldn't expect much. It'll be a generic office sensor inside a mostly Deathadder-shaped shell. Generally the people who review such mice don't actually know what they're talking about, resulting in things like the image Reyjr posted higher up on this page.

  37. Post #1877
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    So my previous mouse was a g500 and while I generally heard it wasn't that great of a mouse, it served me well for many years. Unfortunately it broke just a few weeks ago. I got a Zowie EC1-A to replace it, but even that's been giving me issues (as stated above) and I'm going to end up returning it.

    Should I try my luck again with the EC1-A or should I try something else? I like the feel of the EC1-A, but still prefer the shape of the g500 (given I used it for so many years). Is there a mouse with a similar shape and functionality of the g500 that would be worth buying, moreso than just going for another EC1-A and hoping it works?

  38. Post #1878
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    I wouldn't expect much. It'll be a generic office sensor inside a mostly Deathadder-shaped shell. Generally the people who review such mice don't actually know what they're talking about, resulting in things like the image Reyjr posted higher up on this page.
    It's either that or one of the 3 button DA 3gs with a real 3668 in it but a 1m/s max tracking speed (i-Cafe versions with shitty firmware.)

    So my previous mouse was a g500 and while I generally heard it wasn't that great of a mouse, it served me well for many years. Unfortunately it broke just a few weeks ago. I got a Zowie EC1-A to replace it, but even that's been giving me issues (as stated above) and I'm going to end up returning it.

    Should I try my luck again with the EC1-A or should I try something else? I like the feel of the EC1-A, but still prefer the shape of the g500 (given I used it for so many years). Is there a mouse with a similar shape and functionality of the g500 that would be worth buying, moreso than just going for another EC1-A and hoping it works?
    It'd be nice if you tell us what issues you're experiencing exactly so we can tell you if it's a widespread issue or not.

    Also, Roccat has engineered a new sensor called the "Owl-Eye" and it can be seen here: http://www.roccat.org/en-US/Labs/owl-eye/

    We developed the world-beating Owl-Eye by modifying Avago’s leading optical sensor to our needs
    Yet another Avago sensor.

  39. Post #1879
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    So my previous mouse was a g500 and while I generally heard it wasn't that great of a mouse, it served me well for many years. Unfortunately it broke just a few weeks ago. I got a Zowie EC1-A to replace it, but even that's been giving me issues (as stated above) and I'm going to end up returning it.

    Should I try my luck again with the EC1-A or should I try something else? I like the feel of the EC1-A, but still prefer the shape of the g500 (given I used it for so many years). Is there a mouse with a similar shape and functionality of the g500 that would be worth buying, moreso than just going for another EC1-A and hoping it works?
    honestly your issue sounds like a problem with your mousepad cause the ec1-a doesn't have a deadzone
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  40. Post #1880
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    honestly your issue sounds like a problem with your mousepad cause the ec1-a doesn't have a deadzone
    Or an incorrectly set Windows sensitivity, which causes a processed/artificial deadzone.
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