1. Post #1
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    http://www.anandtech.com/show/7400/t...feat-asus-xfx/
    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...260x,3635.html
    http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphic...9-270X-R7-260X
    http://hardocp.com/article/2013/10/0..._card_review/1
    http://hothardware.com/Reviews/AMD-R...9-280X-Tested/



    from some dude in neogaf
    250 = 7750
    260 = 7770
    260X = 7790
    270 = 7850
    270X = 7870
    280 = 7950
    280X = 7970
    290 = Nvidia's 780
    290X = Nvidia's Titan
    from tom's hardware

    Say Goodbye To The Old Names And Hello To The Old GPUs

    At its press day in Hawaii, two weeks ago, AMD publically announced the Radeon R7 250, R7 260X, R9 270X, R9 280X, R9 290, and R9 290X. Thereís also an R7 240 the company didnít mention. How on earth will you ever memorize all of the corresponding specifications of each card in a timely manner? Itís easy: although weíre looking at new model names, all of the products AMD is talking about today employ GPUs already found in the Radeon HD 7000-series line-up.
    so essentially AMD is launching their version of rebranded/slighly optimized GPUs, and they don't look particulary impressive, at least it seems amd versions are slightly better at higher end(slightly worse at lower end, which is odd, since it tends to be opposite).

    also prices by AMD:

    R7250 = <$89
    R7260X = $139
    R9270X = $199
    R9 280X = $299
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    I bought this title because I couldn't afford Gold Membership yet. meow :3
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    If this is really all they're throwing out there, I'm honestly pretty disappointed.
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    Why they plan on keeping these through q3 2014 is pretty baffling.

    I guess they think the essentially half price rollover will stem off nVidia's next gen sufficiently to keep competitive. It's not like they have to bust ass that hard, what with having the consoles wrapped up with "native" mantle support right out of the gate.

    Still if nVidia shows a much stronger gen even at double the price point comparatively, AMD is gonna get their ass whooped in the high end market.

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    Bunch of rebrands and two titan/780 cards I can't afford, kinda hoped for more..
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    Why they plan on keeping these through q3 2014 is pretty baffling.

    I guess they think the essentially half price rollover will stem off nVidia's next gen sufficiently to keep competitive. It's not like they have to bust ass that hard, what with having the consoles wrapped up with "native" mantle support right out of the gate.

    Still if nVidia shows a much stronger gen even at double the price point comparatively, AMD is gonna get their ass whooped in the high end market.
    Dunno, if the R290X is better or equal to the 780 for much cheaper, I could see getting 2-3 of those being significantly better.

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    Well so far initial reviews seem to paint it as behind the 780 in almost every app except AMD centric ones like Tomb Raider so, for single use it doesn't seem like a clear win-win, though for people upgrading with college/tax return money certainly could buy two for much better bang, with the caveat that AMD dual setups are a lot more conditional than nVidia ones, especially in regard to micro stutter.

    But you're right, being able to get two cards for the same price point as a single that's only 15-20% faster than one is pretty much a no-brainer for people on a budget or with a spare slot and a little free cash. I'm sure in the mid-range and lower end market they're going to clean house pretty unilaterally.

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    Why they plan on keeping these through q3 2014 is pretty baffling.

    I guess they think the essentially half price rollover will stem off nVidia's next gen sufficiently to keep competitive. It's not like they have to bust ass that hard, what with having the consoles wrapped up with "native" mantle support right out of the gate.

    Still if nVidia shows a much stronger gen even at double the price point comparatively, AMD is gonna get their ass whooped in the high end market.
    i don't really expect the next series to be so overtly better like some think it will be, at least not if they're launching in Q1 2014, from what i understood titan was the best of the best nvidia could put out, for AMD it seems R290X seems to be its equivalent(or even a bit better), there isn't much of an incentive for that, especially since the new consoles will be much easier to port to PC.

    i could be wrong through.

    i for one welcome graphic cards with only slight increases , since they're horribly expensive in brazil due to insane taxes.

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    Gee, I hope the R9 290 isn't too expensive.

    I have a GTX 760 now and need a card with a bit more oomph for 1440p gaming, but I'm not sure whether to SLI my GTX760 or wait and get one of the newer generation cards.
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    Gee, I hope the R9 290 isn't too expensive.

    I have a GTX 760 now and need a card with a bit more oomph for 1440p gaming, but I'm not sure whether to SLI my GTX760 or wait and get one of the newer generation cards.
    i still have a HD 5770 , i would be happy to have a 760, personally i wouldn't see the point in getting a newer one if i were in your position, better wait for next-next gen, or at least OC/special editions of next-gen.
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    I sure want to see some 290X benchmarks.

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    Well so far initial reviews seem to paint it as behind the 780 in almost every app except AMD centric ones like Tomb Raider so, for single use it doesn't seem like a clear win-win, though for people upgrading with college/tax return money certainly could buy two for much better bang, with the caveat that AMD dual setups are a lot more conditional than nVidia ones, especially in regard to micro stutter.

    But you're right, being able to get two cards for the same price point as a single that's only 15-20% faster is pretty much a no-brainer for people on a budget or with a spare slot and a little free cash. I'm sure in the mid-range and lower end market they're going to clean house pretty unilaterally.
    The R9-280X is basically a 7970 architectually, but at $299 which is a lot cheaper than Nvidia's current offerings. It's extremely competitive.

    I'm a bit disappointed that we haven't seen more of the new architecture (the R9-260 is based on the new architecture), but the price drop is significant.

    Edited:

    Bunch of rebrands and two titan/780 cards I can't afford, kinda hoped for more..
    The R9-260X is based on the new architecture.

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    This is one sexy looking card

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    Eh i don't like how halfway it becomes paperthin.
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    This is one sexy looking card

    That box looks like a horrendous photoshop.
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    This is one sexy looking card

    Is the GPU white or does it have a super small board? This picture is confusing.
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    Is the GPU white or does it have a super small board? This picture is confusing.
    I think it's just the angle, looks normal from the bottom

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    All of them are re-brands, and a little bit downgraded, 280X is essentially 7970 ghz that's underclocked by like 20 hz or something, lol
    290X price should be good.
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    All of them are re-brands, and a little bit downgraded, 280X is essentially 7970 ghz that's underclocked by like 20 hz or something, lol
    290X price should be good.
    The R9-270X is based on the 7870, and it performs more like the 7950. It's basically the 7870XT if I'm not totally wrong. The R9-280X is a basically a rebranded 7970, but that doesn't change the fact that it's only $299, which is an extremely attractive price point. The R9-260X is not a rebrand, though, so you're not correct in saying that.

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    I'm okay with that. My 7950 runs great and it would be a shame to upgrade again. Rather saving up for a new CPU + Mobo.
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    I'm okay with that. My 7950 runs great and it would be a shame to upgrade again. Rather saving up for a new CPU + Mobo.
    You still have a great card, it will last you through 2014 very very easily. But yeah CPU and MB is the best investment for 2013-2014

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    I have a 6970 and have little to no issues with most games.
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    The R9-270X is based on the 7870, and it performs more like the 7950. It's basically the 7870XT if I'm not totally wrong. The R9-280X is a basically a rebranded 7970, but that doesn't change the fact that it's only $299, which is an extremely attractive price point. The R9-260X is not a rebrand, though, so you're not correct in saying that.
    You sure about 260X not being a rebrand?
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    Still playing catchup I see, AMD.

    They do seem like good value though. I hope Mantle does well for them. I hope nvidia picked up Mantle as well.
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    Interesting but now I want to see what Nvidia is going to do in 2014

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    I bought this title because I couldn't afford Gold Membership yet. meow :3
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    Interesting but now I want to see what Nvidia is going to do in 2014
    nVidia Jupiter.

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    Gee, I hope the R9 290 isn't too expensive.

    I have a GTX 760 now and need a card with a bit more oomph for 1440p gaming, but I'm not sure whether to SLI my GTX760 or wait and get one of the newer generation cards.
    760GTX in SLI will be more powerful than any video card on the market. So I'd go that route. Would be a lot cheaper too.

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    760GTX in SLI will be more powerful than any video card on the market. So I'd go that route. Would be a lot cheaper too.
    Most games don't utilize SLI properly though so you're better off with a single, more powerful card 99% of the time.
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    are any of these better than an hd 5770 because if so then i need 50.
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    Equivalent of a 7750 for less than $90?

    Actually, for the price, all these cards seem amazing

    I've got a HD7850. I got MoH and Farcry 3 for 'free' with it, and both were $60 at the time, essentially the card was $50. It was $170 total. I'm happy with it. AMD make decent cards and for cheaper than nVidia's equivalent

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    nVidia Jupiter.
    And it'll cost Jupiter's volume in gold, probably.
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    I still have an nVidia GTX260 216

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    Still playing catchup I see, AMD.

    They do seem like good value though. I hope Mantle does well for them. I hope nvidia picked up Mantle as well.
    Ehh, catch-up? Sure, they haven't released a GTX 780/Titan competitor yet, but they're placing a GTX 770 equivalent at 3/4's of the price.

    The R9-290 is looking at 4.9TFLOPS and, with the 7970 sitting at 3.8TFLOPs - that's quite the improvement, even though it certainly doesn't translate directly into a better gameplay experience. It has a 512-bit memory bus with 320GB/s of bandwidth. And the R9-290X is gonna be slightly better.

    Sure, AMD wasn't first - but that doesn't matter if they can do it at a lower price point.

  33. Post #33
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    Good price:performance has always been AMD's gig. You don't go to AMD to get powerhouse components - this has always been the case. You go to AMD to save a lot of money and still get something that will get the job done.
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    Good price:performance has always been AMD's gig. You don't go to AMD to get powerhouse components - this has always been the case. You go to AMD to save a lot of money and still get something that will get the job done.
    I don't know why this point gets regurgitated in every AMD thread - sure, it may apply to AMD's CPUs (and many of those aren't even good value), but the GPU business if something else entirely. You buy whatever is the best price:performance, whether it's Nvidia or AMD. I remember two winner cards that everyone seemed to buy for some time; the 5770 and the GTX 460. Everyone bought them simply because they were great value.

    If you just need a powerhouse, AMD and Nvidia has switched places a couple of times within the last few generations (at least if you count dual-GPU single cards), and in the end it doesn't really matter who's got the Titan or the 5970, because neither is really in the realm of standard consumer cards. Either company could probably smash the other with a single-GPU monster, but there's no real market for such a thing - and the rest of the spectrum is measured by price:performance.

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    Ehh, catch-up? Sure, they haven't released a GTX 780/Titan competitor yet, but they're placing a GTX 770 equivalent at 3/4's of the price.

    The R9-290 is looking at 4.9TFLOPS and, with the 7970 sitting at 3.8TFLOPs - that's quite the improvement, even though it certainly doesn't translate directly into a better gameplay experience. It has a 512-bit memory bus with 320GB/s of bandwidth. And the R9-290X is gonna be slightly better.

    Sure, AMD wasn't first - but that doesn't matter if they can do it at a lower price point.
    AMD always is trying to match Nvidia. They do it at a better pricepoint yea. I just mean I'd like to see AMD for once put out a card faster than something Nvidia has, merely for the hype of it.

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    AMD always is trying to match Nvidia. They do it at a better pricepoint yea. I just mean I'd like to see AMD for once put out a card faster than something Nvidia has, merely for the hype of it.
    I haven't been following GPUs much lately, but I heard from a friend that a 290x beats a titan more often than not, for $300 less?
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    ...it was just announced, and afaik, no one has done any bench marking on it yet. Your friend is making shit up.

    Edited:

    Found one benchmark, that was apparently taken down. I'd wait for more than that before deciding which is better.
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    AMD always is trying to match Nvidia. They do it at a better pricepoint yea. I just mean I'd like to see AMD for once put out a card faster than something Nvidia has, merely for the hype of it.
    The R9-290X is supposed to be a good deal faster than the Titan, actually. Let's see what happens.

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    It damn well better be; if a sammich card can't beat a single, you've definitely got some issues.
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    Most games don't utilize SLI properly though so you're better off with a single, more powerful card 99% of the time.
    Can you name any examples of games that require a card more powerful than the 760GTX to run at maximum graphics that doesn't utilize SLI properly? Genuinely interested