1. Post #681
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    I am pretty sure those are still made by TNW. But I could be wrong.

    As long as you get a higher serial number gun (they upgraded them as things went along in production to fix common problems) You should be OK. I think I just got "lucky" and got a refurb or something.
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  2. Post #682
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    The Suomi's I'm looking at aren't surplus, but just repros, which I'm not sure if they're built off surplus parts or not. This is what I'm debating on atm, but thanks for the heads up, I'll avoid surplus stuff then.
    That's the one he's talking about, the modern repros from TNW. The first few batches of repros had a ton of issues, I've even heard of receivers cracking.
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  3. Post #683
    I am pretty sure those are still made by TNW. But I could be wrong.

    As long as you get a higher serial number gun (they upgraded them as things went along in production to fix common problems) You should be OK. I think I just got "lucky" and got a refurb or something.
    ah I see, I'll have to buy one in person rather than online. Thanks for the heads-up. Any idea on how high a serial I should look for to avoid issues with them? Also, how was the stock on the rifle? Was it like the classic finnish mosin stocks with those burnt-looking knots in it?
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  4. Post #684
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    Anything you purchase now should be good. But for some reason mine was not.

    I bought mine in person. Inspected it and everything looked good. Problems only came out when I pulled the trigger.
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  6. Post #686
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    Turns out I gotta make the high-ride belt loop for my Safariland 6004 holster myself, buying it was wayy to expensive here in Norway.
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    Turns out I gotta make the high-ride belt loop for my Safariland 6004 holster myself, buying it was wayy to expensive here in Norway.
    I have one you can have, if you pay shipping.
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  8. Post #688
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    Lol my uncle sold my dad a Tapco SKS stock and a bunch of 20 round mags, and then he pulled me and my dad aside (this was during a party) and says "here is this little spring, it makes the gun full auto" and hands my dad a little spring that looks like it was from a pen, only beefier obviously. He's like "lol k" and I'm thinking what the fuck? Same uncle who says he has a ".50 caliber drag-nov" in Arizona and a "full auto AK-47" he traded a motorcycle for. OK
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  9. Post #689
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    So it's what, a spring for the firing pin to make it slamfire all the time? It's completely plausible.
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  10. Post #690
    You can make an SKS full auto, theres even a book on Amazon you can buy that will teach you how to do it. It's just if you do it, it's 10 years in a federal prison and I can tell you a full auto rifle isn't worth that much.
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  11. Post #691
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    Wow, sounds like he tried to make a akins accelerator/bumpfire stock...

    Technically, a spring is classified as a machinegun by the ATF because of the Akins Accelerator.
    So, technically, if you were to DIY your own bumpfire stock out of a tapco M4 style telescoping stock; putting a spring in it to cause it to reciprocate without you having to pull foreward would make it a "machinegun" per the ATF...


    Lol my uncle sold my dad a Tapco SKS stock and a bunch of 20 round mags, and then he pulled me and my dad aside (this was during a party) and says "here is this little spring, it makes the gun full auto" and hands my dad a little spring that looks like it was from a pen, only beefier obviously. He's like "lol k" and I'm thinking what the fuck? Same uncle who says he has a ".50 caliber drag-nov" in Arizona and a "full auto AK-47" he traded a motorcycle for. OK
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  12. Post #692
    Funfact, a shoestring with a loop on each end is also considered to be a machine gun under the ATF's definition
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  14. Post #694
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    Funfact, a shoestring with a loop on each end is also considered to be a machine gun under the ATF's definition
    That decision was repealed
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  15. Post #695
    "Upon further review, we have determined that the string itself is not a machinegun.."
    What would we do without the ATF
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  16. Post #696
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    "Upon further review, we have determined that the string itself is not a machinegun.."
    What would we do without the ATF
    have fun

    Edited:

    i need a shirt that says in massive bold letters: "DRINK, SMOKE, SHOOT"
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  17. Post #697
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    "Upon further review, we have determined that the string itself is not a machinegun.."
    What would we do without the ATF
    Brb tying a string to my M1 then taking it off, then putting it back on, then taking it off again, then putting it back on again.

    Be like "Ooop! Oh... Ooop! Oh..."
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  18. Post #698
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    You'd think they'd be concerned about the millions of illegal machineguns on the streets all over the US for those 3 years
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  19. Post #699
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    In other news, hand cranked Gatling guns are still legal.

    I wanna make one with a better gear ratio so it can make 1,200 rpm.
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    So, I heard from the gun shop that fucked up my 1911. They are supposed to be getting it back from Colt this week. Just so happens that yesterday was the two month mark since they sent if off.
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  21. Post #701
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    "Upon further review, we have determined that the string itself is not a machinegun.."
    What would we do without the ATF
    Unintended humour is the best humour. I really laughed hard at that.
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  22. Post #702
    You'd think they'd be concerned about the millions of illegal machineguns on the streets all over the US for those 3 years
    I demand to know why the ATF didn't form an Shoe-string task force when there was a machinegun epidemic between the years of 2004 and 2007.
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  23. Post #703
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    I wholeheartedly agree! I can't believe they wasted my tax dollars sitting on their asses while there were millions of illegal machineguns on the streets!
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  24. Post #704

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    Is it better to pick up a completed upper for an AR or buy things separately?
    It seems cheaper to buy a packaged deal or am I not looking hard enough?
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    Is it better to pick up a completed upper for an AR or buy things separately?
    It seems cheaper to buy a packaged deal or am I not looking hard enough?
    In general, it used to be that buying the parts yourself was cheaper. However, because of the current firearms market, nine times out of ten, buying the completed upper will be cheaper. Some internal parts are almost impossible to get right now, and people are not buying completed uppers just to strip parts for a project.
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  26. Post #706
    So yesterday I converted a 24 inch long 1/2 inch wide galvanized hardened steel pipe into a musket by drilling a hole at one end and capping it.

    I rammed about 400 grains of black powder down the muzzle of the 'barrel' and some wadding along with about 9 bolts that weighed about 5 grams each.

    Aimed it at 3 cinder blocks and fired it, I'm surprised it didn't explode or even deform. The cinder blocks however, did.

    Most fun I've had in a while after I shot it a few more times using 100gr of bp instead.
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  27. Post #707
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    So yesterday I converted a 24 inch long 1/2 inch wide galvanized hardened steel pipe into a musket by drilling a hole at one end and capping it.

    I rammed about 400 grains of black powder down the muzzle of the 'barrel' and some wadding along with about 9 bolts that weighed about 5 grams each.

    Aimed it at 3 cinder blocks and fired it, I'm surprised it didn't explode or even deform. The cinder blocks however, did.

    Most fun I've had in a while after I shot it a few more times using 100gr of bp instead.
    It's very worrying you didn't bother to test it first
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  28. Post #708
    It's very worrying you didn't bother to test it first
    I did, each shot I took I used a sparkler as a fuse and hid behind a concrete wall 40 feet away.

    When I get a decent camera I'm going to upload a few shots of me shooting random things at random things.
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  29. Post #709
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    You don't know how lucky you are to be alive right now.
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  30. Post #710
    So yesterday I converted a 24 inch long 1/2 inch wide galvanized hardened steel pipe into a musket by drilling a hole at one end and capping it.

    I rammed about 400 grains of black powder down the muzzle of the 'barrel' and some wadding along with about 9 bolts that weighed about 5 grams each.

    Aimed it at 3 cinder blocks and fired it, I'm surprised it didn't explode or even deform. The cinder blocks however, did.

    Most fun I've had in a while after I shot it a few more times using 100gr of bp instead.

    Theres a fine line between a musket and a pipe bomb, you should really be more careful next time.
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  31. Post #711
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    Theres a fine line between a musket and a pipe bomb, you should really be more careful next time.
    He detonated it remotely and hid behind a concrete wall, he was careful.
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  32. Post #712
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    He detonated it remotely and hid behind a concrete wall, he was careful.
    A sparkler isn't that remote.
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  33. Post #713
    He detonated it remotely and hid behind a concrete wall, he was careful.
    using a high powder load in a steel pipe, then topping it off with wadding and loose steel bolts is hardly being careful.
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  34. Post #714
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    I have one you can have, if you pay shipping.
    Sounds great, PM'ed you!
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  35. Post #715
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    awesome! not a fan of those pistol grips though.
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  36. Post #716
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    I did, each shot I took I used a sparkler as a fuse and hid behind a concrete wall 40 feet away.

    When I get a decent camera I'm going to upload a few shots of me shooting random things at random things.
    Can I come? This sounds fun as shit, and is actually totally legal too.
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  37. Post #717
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    So apparently, my local FFL has upped the transfer fee on "Assault Weapons". :/

    Looks like we're taking our business elsewhere.

    Edited:

    Funfact, a shoestring with a loop on each end is also considered to be a machine gun under the ATF's definition
    Isn't it just wonderful how Sterling Nixon told us all how to make our semi-automatics into machine guns? I love the internet. C:
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  38. Post #718
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    decoupaged my lower handguard

    we balkan warriors now
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  39. Post #719
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    Paid off my Glock, but nobody nearby has any .45 ACP so I couldn't get any range time :c
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  40. Post #720
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    i decoupaged the stock on my AK






    upper handguard (gas tube cover) has this on it



    i'm the flyest cat in the hood now
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