1. Post #121
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    Yet to get a straight answer. Are Ground Zeroes and Phantom Pain the same game? Is it a Tanker/ Plant virtuous mission / snake eater scenario?
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  2. Post #122
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    Yet to get a straight answer. Are Ground Zeroes and Phantom Pain the same game? Is it a Tanker/ Plant virtuous mission / snake eater scenario?
    Ya it's all MGS5.
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  3. Post #123
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    http://m.gamespot.com/news/6406157.html

    who's this guy then :(


    I don't want to buy two games, and I have a sinking feeling only one will be on current gen
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  4. Post #124
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    Yet to get a straight answer. Are Ground Zeroes and Phantom Pain the same game? Is it a Tanker/ Plant virtuous mission / snake eater scenario?
    They are the same, not sure how yet though, whether its Ground Zeroes intro then Phantom Pain, or Phantom Pain intro, Ground Zeroes flashback more Phantom Pain is still open.
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  5. Post #125
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    http://m.gamespot.com/news/6406157.html

    but this guy said they're different :/
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  6. Post #126
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    http://m.gamespot.com/news/6406157.html

    but this guy said they're different :/
    Kojima himself said GZ was the prologue and then went into the Phantom Pain stuff. So it's like how Virtuous mission was the prologue then went into Snake Eater.
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  7. Post #127
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    Two sides of the same coin bb.

    Ground Zeroes and Phantom pain was a ruse, both are part of the full game MGSV.
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  8. Post #128
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    Man Ocelot looks like a total badass.
    He's pretty good.
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  9. Post #129
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    Kojima himself said GZ was the prologue and then went into the Phantom Pain stuff. So it's like how Virtuous mission was the prologue then went into Snake Eater.
    Yes a prologue.
    Still can't rule out the possibility that they both may be full length games though rather than being just acts or something like Metal Gear Solid 2.
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  10. Post #130
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    Christ, this is the year of Metal Gear if thats the case.
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  11. Post #131
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    Yes a prologue.
    Still can't rule out the possibility that they both may be full length games though rather than being just acts or something like Metal Gear Solid 2.
    There's an incredibly minimal chance that's actually going to happen. My guess is that GZ starts with you looking for Chico and Paz at the base and Miller is greeting the guests they talked about in the GZ trailer, then something happens to Chico (his tape explodes or something) and Paz. Mother base starts to get fucked and BB goes back to get miller and the heli crashes. Then it's the Phantom Pain stuff. That'd be a great prologue as prologues tend to be short. Having a whole game be a prologue would just be weird.
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  12. Post #132
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    I made another high quality gif.

    Because I've lost control of my life.
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  13. Post #133
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    So, how is Peace Walker? I'm tempted to buy it off of the PSN for my Vita.
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  14. Post #134
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    So, how is Peace Walker? I'm tempted to buy it off of the PSN for my Vita.
    Good.
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  15. Post #135
    Ah yes "opinions"
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    So, how is Peace Walker? I'm tempted to buy it off of the PSN for my Vita.
    The endgame of Peace Walker is probably my favourite of any Metal Gear Solid.
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  16. Post #136
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    I think GZ might just be the PC version of the phantom pain
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  17. Post #137
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    Thread music

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  18. Post #138
    Ah yes "opinions"
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    I think GZ might just be the PC version of the phantom pain
    The PC version is going to be AT BEST a multiplat version given no special treatment over the console version. If it was for pc they'd probably have mentioned it by now.
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  19. Post #139
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    http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1257287
    What okay

    I guess that clears a couple things up. It would make more sense for MGSV to start with the proper tutorial rather than ground zeroes.

    But then why is there ground zeroes footage in the MGSV trailer?

    ugh UUAGH
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  20. Post #140
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    http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1257287
    What okay

    I guess that clears a couple things up. It would make more sense for MGSV to start with the proper tutorial rather than ground zeroes.

    But then why is there ground zeroes footage in the MGSV trailer?

    ugh UUAGH
    Thats because Ground Zeroes is in MGS5.

    Kojima said that.
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  21. Post #141
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    Well fuck. As long as I don't actually have to buy two titles at $60 a piece it'll be fine.
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  22. Post #142
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    I know what Kojima is doing.

    Ground Zeroes is going to be The Phantom Pain's demo.
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  23. Post #143
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    One of them will have Squirtle in it.
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  24. Post #144
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    Probably late but the phantom pain website had a weird update.

    http://thephantompain.com/
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  25. Post #145
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    Probably late but the phantom pain website had a weird update.

    http://thephantompain.com/
    Pretty sure that's a fan site. Or at least we don't have a reason to believe it's actually connected to MGS5.
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  26. Post #146
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    Stupid theory below.


    Trailer posted:
    "V has come to."
    Naked Snake = I

    Solid Snake = II

    Liquid Snake= III

    Solidus Snake = IV

    ??? = V


    What if V was referring to a fifth Snake?
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  27. Post #147
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    Stupid theory below.


    "V has come to."

    Naked Snake = I

    Solid Snake = II

    Liquid Snake= III

    Solidus Snake = IV

    ??? = V


    What if V was referring to a fifth Snake?

    Probably not.












    They're totally doing that.
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  28. Post #148
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    I was going to say it's referring to the fact that it's the fifth MGS.

    But that's stupid, why would someone say that in game. Perhaps V is a codename for ghost Volgin.
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  29. Post #149
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    I was going to say it's referring to the fact that it's the fifth MGS.

    But that's stupid, why would someone say that in game. Perhaps V is a codename for ghost Volgin.
    If ghost volgin is a major antagonist that would be fucking awesome.

    Edited:

    And then he comes back in 2018 and violently molests raiden again.
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  30. Post #150
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    I was going to say it's referring to the fact that it's the fifth MGS.

    But that's stupid, why would someone say that in game. Perhaps V is a codename for ghost Volgin.
    Vic Boss...?
    (What some people call Big Boss)
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  31. Post #151
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    Vic Boss...?
    (What some people call Big Boss)
    Yeah, I imagined that the context of that line is the female nurse telling the doctor that "V" (Big Boss) is awake.
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  32. Post #152
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    If ghost volgin is a major antagonist that would be fucking awesome.

    Edited:

    And then he comes back in 2018 and violently molests raiden again.
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  33. Post #153
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    It definitely seems that the reason shit was crazy in the hospital was because Boss had woken up.

    Voice was probably not the nurse, but was probably a much more important character.
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  34. Post #154
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    Kinda neat that the machine gun fire from the helicopter in the PP gameplay makes the same sound that happens in the GZ trailer when Big Boss comes in. Always enjoy when devs do stuff like that.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...Tw9jF0jA#t=98s

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...Os5Pxh8#t=428s
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  35. Post #155
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    -snip-
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  36. Post #156
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    It definitely seems that the reason shit was crazy in the hospital was because Boss had woken up.

    Voice was probably not the nurse, but was probably a much more important character.
    Seeing Psycho Mantis and Ocelot show up again is kind of weird (Especially Psycho Mantis since we've never seen a higher detailed, remade version of him before).
    I wonder if any other members of the MGS 1 FOXHOUND squad will make an appearance too; like Sniper Wolf or Decoy Octopus.
    (I wouldn't expect Vulcan Raven though)

    And i'm gonna take a shot in the dark here too, But I think it'd be pretty strange/neat if they were actually working with you this time around since this will be from Big Boss's perspective and those guys were originally with him.
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  37. Post #157
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    I don't think Ghost Volgin is Ghost volgin at all. He looks more like Evil Ghost Snake.





    That first sneaking suit i posted is from Peace Walker. The next is from Portable Ops, but his Ground Zeroes suit seems to be a bit of both from what I can see.

    Edited:

    I mean if you actually look at Volgin, the only similarity is how orange it is and the arm rolled up sleeves. That's basically it. And I think it's orange cause everything's, y'know, on fire.

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  38. Post #158
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    That specific picture doesn't look like volgin.

    But there are other scenes where you can see Volgin's belts of bullets and such. Also, in the gameplay video, ghost volgin is wearing his coat.

       kuwabara kuwabara   
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  39. Post #159
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    That specific picture doesn't look like volgin.

    But there are other scenes where you can see Volgin's belts of bullets and such. Also, in the gameplay video, ghost volgin is wearing his coat.

       kuwabara kuwabara   
    Maaaaybe there's more than one ghost demon thing? I know the bit you mean, it was in the other TPP trailer, but that seemed to be a different part of the hospital...

    Edited:

    Here's a comparison:




    Edited:

    Yeah, now that i look at it again it does look really volgin-y, but i still think it could be ghost snake.
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  40. Post #160
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    I don't think TPP and GZ are the same game guys.. http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1257287
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