1. Post #1
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    On Saturday, the teen (whose name has not been released) spent 90 minutes standing at a busy intersection with a hand-written sign describing her sins.

    It read: "Iím a self-entitled teenager w/no respect for authority. Iím also super smart, yet I have 3 'Dís' because I DONíT CARE."
    http://shine.yahoo.com/parenting/par...184517447.html
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  2. Post #2
    Dennab
    May 2010
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    Really good way to make a child respect you and not just fear you.

       sarcasm   
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  3. Post #3
    sarcastic bastard
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    Renee Nickell told the Northwest Florida Daily News that the family has had a hard time since Renee's brother was killed in Afghanistan in December 2011. Her kids were close to him and his family, she explained, even taking vacations together. Since losing her uncle, Renee's 13-year-old has become more defiant at home and at school, and her grades have dropped.

    "We just felt like she just kind of gave up," Renee told the newspaper.
    So they decide to punish her because she lost her will? Nice.
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  4. Post #4
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    What's the point of these kinds of punishments? Shaming and humiliating your own child like that. I seriously don't get the thought process of parents who think this is a good idea to do.
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  5. Post #5
    Dennab
    November 2006
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    Well I see a lot of problems with this. Making her hold a sign, because she lost her uncle. That's idiotic. They needed to treat her fairly, she lost someone, she's feeling down but they need to respect what she is feeling, but HELP her feel better.

    Shit, I'd be a good parent.
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  6. Post #6
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    Dennab
    January 2006
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    or maybe she has shitty parents that dont understand her problems and instead react with condescension

    Iím also super smart, yet I have 3 'Dís' because I DONíT CARE
    yeah maybe she doesnt care, and thats probably not her fault
    because shes 13
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  7. Post #7
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    Loved one gets killed overseas, and as a result, the kid's grades SOMEHOW slip. Instead of guiding her through hard times or getting her a counselor, they humiliate her in public.

    Why isnt CPS getting involved?
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    Hello everyone! I would like you to know that I am not a fan of nudity!!!
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    I think no-one here has enough information to say, maybe she is a silly 13-year-old that thinks she's way cleverer than she actually is, maybe her parents are being cunts, we don't know, further speculation isn't going to help
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    They didn't forbid her from attending activities at church, they said, because the activities were supposed to reinforce the Christian values they were struggling to instill in her.
    There now nobody on facepunch will agree with the parents
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  10. Post #10
    Dennab
    July 2011
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    This is the problem with alot of parenting. It's reactionary. Instead of trying to see the underlying problem or to actually teach, or perhaps even come to a consensus or understanding, parents instead attack their children with humiliation or fear, which does not make them understand or encourage them to strive for better solutions, but instead to fear retaliation for what they see as logical or proper. That is not teaching, or making your child better, that's coercion and force to push them into line. This is why kids in America are so uneducated- they're taught at home and in school to jump when told and totally forsaken when they step out of line, or forceably or socially made to jump, instead of worked with or guided voluntarily in a way that allows them to explore themselves and the world, and learn from it. Generally negative behavior can be dealt with, but only if we're open to working with those who enact it. There is no working with the kid here, there is not learning. There is only coercion. The kid will not end up better, but instead either be alienated further from her home life, or forced into the mindset that "it's right to abide by those who can hurt me, because they can hurt me."

    edit: This isn't about whether the kid actually did something wrong, it's about the way that parents handle it. The problem wouldn't be there in the first place if the proper measures were taken beforehand and after. The kid may be a total ass, it doesn't matter, because the reaction is in the wrong no matter the circumstances (excluding extreme, I'm willing to say).
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    There now nobody on facepunch will agree with the parents
    I don't know who's worse the ones who constantly bitch about christianity or the ones who constantly bitch about people who bitch about christianity

    We get it despite being the religious majority in the US you're somehow beleaguered and fighting for your right to worship, bringing it up doesn't make you any better
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  12. Post #12
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    Dennab
    January 2006
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    we don't know, further speculation isn't going to help
    i think we're commenting on a thread, im sure we're all aware none of this is going to help
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    (I hope that the mods get the reference)
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    I think no-one here has enough information to say, maybe she is a silly 13-year-old that thinks she's way cleverer than she actually is, maybe her parents are being cunts, we don't know, further speculation isn't going to help
    you could say that about any news article, so lets not discuss anything ever.

  15. Post #15
    Dennab
    July 2007
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    The sign should say "I feel like shit because my uncle died in a war and I have shitty parents does anyone else want to be my parents instead"
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    "hitchhiking to better parents land please pull over"
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    Missy Q
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    Just a nice daily reminder that the world is stuffed full of absolutely horrendous parents.
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    Dennab
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    Now she just hates her parents more and will be more compelled to lie/hide "sin" better.
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    September 2011
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    "hitchhiking to better parents land please pull over"
    "better parents land or bust"

  20. Post #20
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    THAT'S THE SIGN?
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    THAT'S THE SIGN?
    were you expecting something more?
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  22. Post #22
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    January 2011
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    Punishments like these just make the child sneakier, not more obedient.
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  23. Post #23
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    December 2012
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    I'm sorry, but... all I can think of is this.

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    (I hope that the mods get the reference)
    damn it i was just going to post the original...
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  25. Post #25
    And remember : respect is everything.
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    Never got the point of that kind of punishment. If my parents would have done that to me, I'd hate them to death.
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    Missy Q
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    June 2005
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    Never got the point of that kind of punishment. If my parents would have done that to me, I'd hate them to death.
    I would probably call child services if my parent(s) told me to do this.
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  27. Post #27
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    I would probably call child services if my parent(s) told me to do this.
    So they can come visit every week for 6 months and try and deconstruct why you're abused so badly until they conclude that you really aren't being abused and the 6 months of shame, pain, and arguments was for literally nothing? Child services has better things to do than deal with these kinds of cases.
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    Missy Q
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    June 2005
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    So they can come visit every week for 6 months and try and deconstruct why you're abused so badly until they conclude that you really aren't being abused and the 6 months of shame, pain, and arguments was for literally nothing? Child services has better things to do than deal with these kinds of cases.
    She's obviously going through depression or something due to recent deaths in the family and her own parents are putting her through forced public humiliation.

    That's not life-threatening child mistreatment but it is child mistreatment nonetheless.
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  29. Post #29
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    October 2007
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    Then you tell the parents to cut their shit out, you don't drop them into a half a year's worth of unneeded child services bullshit. That will have a worse effect on their family than anything those parents have done so far.
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    She's obviously going through depression or something due to recent deaths in the family and her own parents are putting her through forced public humiliation.

    That's not life-threatening child mistreatment but it is child mistreatment nonetheless.
    They're more concerned with saving the kids that have to obey lest they get a frying pan to the face...literally...they're too understaffed to handle every case that needs their attention so they have to pick and choose, and the life-threatennig cases are the ones that get chosen.
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    They're more concerned with saving the kids that have to obey lest they get a frying pan to the face...literally...they're too understaffed to handle every case that needs their attention so they have to pick and choose, and the life-threatennig cases are the ones that get chosen.
    Exactly. And when your fucking teacher threatens you with severe punishment if you don't explain the mark on your face, child services gets to visit you for 6 months and blame everything from the dog to my sister for why I don't do my schoolwork because that fucking teacher said my life was in danger. So while I'm being forced to stay with a family friend and having my family torn limb from limb for no reason, some kid who's actually being abused is SOL.

    Don't bring child services into it unless there is literally a life threatening situation at hand.
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    I don't know who's worse the ones who constantly bitch about christianity or the ones who constantly bitch about people who bitch about christianity

    We get it despite being the religious majority in the US you're somehow beleaguered and fighting for your right to worship, bringing it up doesn't make you any better
    I'm not Christian lol
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  33. Post #33
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    no, you don't get it, it's all okay, guys
    they asked her if she was okay and she was all like "sure"
    that means that she's okay

    totally not that she's just trying to hide her depression even more than before because she gets fucking punished for it
    nope nope nope

    [sub][sub]I can sympathize with this girl, if you couldn't tell.[/sub][/sub]
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  34. Post #34
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    So why is this getting so much bad media attention?
    That's one of the lightest punishments I've ever seen, and it's not like the parents are just abusing her because they're evil. They clearly at least love this kid and have good intentions.

    Kids all over the place are getting beaten for stuff they'v done, and holding a sign for 90 minutes gets people calling for blood?

    I'm not saying the parents are right, but if this is a mistake, it's not a detrimental one to say the least.
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  35. Post #35
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    So why is this getting so much bad media attention?

    That's one of the lightest punishments I've ever seen, and it's not like the parents are just abusing her because they're evil. They clearly at least love this kid and have good intentions.

    Kids all over the place are getting beaten for stuff they'v done, and holding a sign for 90 minutes gets people calling for blood?
    did you miss the part where the parents say her behaviour changed after her uncle died and instead of helping her deal with it they just publicly shame her
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    Loved one gets killed overseas, and as a result, the kid's grades SOMEHOW slip. Instead of guiding her through hard times or getting her a counselor, they humiliate her in public.

    Why isnt CPS getting involved?
    Too busy arresting kids who know gun safety.
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  37. Post #37
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    I would probably call child services if my parent(s) told me to do this.
    That's a crazy overreaction and you'd be wasting CPS's time.
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  38. Post #38
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    did you miss the part where the parents say her behaviour changed after her uncle died and instead of helping her deal with it they just publicly shame her
    I'm aware of that, and I don't think they handled the situation right.

    I'm just saying that it's not a bad punishment, and they still had good intentions. Because of that, I would assume that they're still generally good parents who just made a mistake.

    "Why aren't CPS getting involved?"
    That type of reaction just seems more ridiculously off-base than what the parents did.
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  39. Post #39
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    October 2006
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    It's pissing me off how many dick heads on the Yahoo comments section are actually applauding this shit. Instead of being criticized like they should, the parents are getting a standing ovation.
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    So why is this getting so much bad media attention?
    That's one of the lightest punishments I've ever seen, and it's not like the parents are just abusing her because they're evil. They clearly at least love this kid and have good intentions.

    Kids all over the place are getting beaten for stuff they'v done, and holding a sign for 90 minutes gets people calling for blood?

    I'm not saying the parents are right, but if this is a mistake, it's not a detrimental one to say the least.
    Users are criticizing this since the parents are gloating about an ineffective practice. I think that the parent should handle it in a mature, beneficial, and critical manner since they've probably experienced depression.
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