1. Post #41
    That was one study. And later they found out that the subjects weren't "turned on", they were just extremely uncomfortable and repulsed.
    And saying that homophobes are homosexuals is stupid. I'm a homophobe, I don't like being around or seeing anything gay, but that doesn't mean I'm so totally into dudes.
    you shall find no haven here
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  2. Post #42
    I'm a homophobe, I don't like being around or seeing anything gay, but that doesn't mean I'm so totally into dudes.
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  3. Post #43
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    That was one study. And later they found out that the subjects weren't "turned on", they were just extremely uncomfortable and repulsed.
    If that were truth, then it would mean that men get extreme erections from sitting on freshly-painted hardwood benches.

    And saying that homophobes are homosexuals is stupid. I'm a homophobe, I don't like being around or seeing anything gay, but that doesn't mean I'm so totally into dudes.
    How can we take your word for it? If you're gay and repress it with homophobic views, then of course you're going to say you're grossed out by gays.

  4. Post #44
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    The argument against gays is really stupid IMO.

    It's not like it harms anyone.
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  5. Post #45
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    If we're not supposed to care if people are gay, then why should we care if someone else doesn't like gay people?
    If we're not supposed to care if people are Jewish, then why should we care if someone else doesn't like Jews?

    Yeah, I fucking went there.

  6. Post #46
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    Not really sure how they got labelled "Occupy protesters" when they weren't occupying anything, seems to me like it's dissolved into a larger movement now
    You would think they would spend a little more time on crony capitalism (their first main target) and accomplish a bit more in that respect before protesting politicians because of they don't like gay people. A politician that is friendly to them at that.

    Edited:

    I don't get it, when did he explicitly state that he hates gays? I thought Ron Paul was the one who opposed a federal marriage amendemnt and wanted to give states the right to decide on that issue (which is what DOMA already does... gives states the rights to decide for themselves)
    Facepunch forgets that states has their own political system.

    It's not like (as far as I know) that he is going to outlaw gay marriage, he's going to leave it up to the states, which people have a more a direct control over.

    They're going after his personal conviction rather than his policy. If his personal conviction does not effect his policy, that is a good thing.

    Would we rather have a president that is going to legalize gay marriage? Yeah, but that isn't going to happen anytime soon.
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  7. Post #47
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    Really should be voicing about something else. (money related)
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  8. Post #48
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    Every candidate has policies that harm someone in some way. The candidates are aware of this. Usually they don't particularly think this is a terrible thing due to moral reasons.

    The persons being harmed then have every opportunity to create a very awkward moment for the candidate. Meaning, this. Or, Joe the Plumber (remember him?)

    The best thing the candidate can do at that point is take it humorously. Newt Gingrich was approached by a gay man inquiring about gay marriage, and rather politely, given the circumstances, told the gay man that Newt wouldn't be the best candidate for him to vote for, if that's his platform. Everyone still gave him shit because he was a conservative being conservative but he was very polite given the circumstances.
    What does him being polite have to do with anything?

    Edited:

    The fuck do you want him to say then, that doesn't involve massively changing his opinion on gay rights?
    Him to be honest and say "i'm an assbackwards homophobic bigoted cunt who has no place in modern politics outside of the 12th century."

    Edited:

    I don't get it, when did he explicitly state that he hates gays?
    every fucking time he votes on an issue regarding gays and when he's asked about it?


    You don't have to say "I hate gays" to be fucking obvious that you hate gays.
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  9. Post #49
    I'm fairly certain when he said, "freedom of speech, ain't it wonderful" it was directed towards the protesters. There are TWO ways you can take this, you can take as if hes hating gays, or you can take it as if hes stating the obvious, "free speech, ain't it wonderful" I wonder if he even heard that single protester all over the shouting.. I mean did anybody else watch the video?

  10. Post #50
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    I don't know, even if Ron Paul truly doesn't like gays I'd almost say he's entitled to his opinion since it doesn't show through in his political side. What I'm saying is he puts aside his personal feelings about homosexuals when it comes to laws and liberty. Which is how politicians should be
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    I don't know, even if Ron Paul truly doesn't like gays I'd almost say he's entitled to his opinion since it doesn't show through in his political side. What I'm saying is he puts aside his personal feelings about homosexuals when it comes to laws and liberty. Which is how politicians should be
    Your personal views will always influence the way you go about life - including how you behave as a president. Some people can minimalize this but it's still unavoidable!!!
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  12. Post #52
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    That is a blanket statement which is untrue.

    They are more likely to be gay, though.
    I'm still using it against homophobes, just because it might get them to shut up.
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  13. Post #53
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    The fuck do you want him to say then, that doesn't involve massively changing his opinion on gay rights?

    Also you intentionally reworded it to be rude.

    EDIT: Zeke129
    Yeah, he can be anti-gay if he wants. He's a huge fucking douchebag and a bigot for it though.
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  14. Post #54
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    Everyone attacking Survivor is just exacerbating things. Why do you have to make it "us vs them"?

    People shouldn't be forced to change their views, just the laws.

  15. Post #55
    Dennab
    July 2007
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    The fuck do you want him to say then, that doesn't involve massively changing his opinion on gay rights?

    Also you intentionally reworded it to be rude.

    EDIT: Zeke129
    The only polite thing is to massively change his opinion on gay rights

    If you believe someone should be treated as a lesser human being because of their sexual orientation you are, by definition, impolite

    Edited:

    I don't know, even if Ron Paul truly doesn't like gays I'd almost say he's entitled to his opinion since it doesn't show through in his political side. What I'm saying is he puts aside his personal feelings about homosexuals when it comes to laws and liberty. Which is how politicians should be
    But it DOES carry on to his political side. He called Don't Ask Don't Tell a "decent policy", he said the equal protection clause of the constitution shouldn't be able to be used to stop states from criminalizing gay sex, despite saying he opposes a federal definition of marriage he spoke in support of the Defense of Marriage Act, he co-sponsored the Marriage Protection Act which would have prevented federal judges from hearing cases regarding the constitutionality of DOMA, and he supported a bill that would have prevented federal money from being spent on the adoption of children by individuals not married.

    The only good thing he's ever done in regards to gay rights is ultimately voting to repeal DADT.
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  16. Post #56
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    The only polite thing is to massively change his opinion on gay rights

    If you believe someone should be treated as a lesser human being because of their sexual orientation you are, by definition, impolite
    And that's putting it gently.

    Also, when did Occupy become the real life equivalent of Anonymous?

  17. Post #57
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    Can someone enlighten me how he hates gays again, I haven't been following.

    Last time I heard of his stance on it, he is completely not bothered by it.
    Through his stance on state rights, he's essentially condemning any progress if he were elected.
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  18. Post #58
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    Through his stance on state rights, he's essentially condemning any progress if he were elected.
    i'd love to hear how
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  19. Post #59
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    Prime example of Facepunch logic.
    I still to this day wonder why homosexuality and gay marriage is even an issue. Why the fuck should it matter if people are gay or not? It's a fucking given that everyone deserves an equal amount of rights, but the fact that this has to be a national debate is rage-inducing. What the fuck, America, and what the fuck, world?
    Why do people hate gays? Fair enough question.
    Mainly because of the Bible condemning it due to the high birth mortality back then.
    because religion
    The Bible is a crock of shit.
    man fuck da religion
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  20. Post #60
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    Prime example of Facepunch logic.

    Why do people hate gays? Fair enough question.

    because religion

    man fuck da religion
    It's essentially true though. A lot of homophobes tend to pull the 'sanctity of marriage and all that jazz' card when discussing gay marriage which has its roots firmly set in the Bible.
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  21. Post #61
    Dennab
    July 2007
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    i'd love to hear how
    All you have to do is look at our own country to see why allowing states to decide who gets what rights is dangerous - Alberta is the only province in Canada that still technically bans gay marriage but because it's a federal law they can't enforce it.

    Given how many "Alberta-esque" states there are in the US, surely you can see the problem
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  22. Post #62
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    Prime example of Facepunch logic.

    Why do people hate gays? Fair enough question.

    because religion

    man fuck da religion
    "Religion has nothing to do with intolerance of homosexuality." - You, you goddamn idiot, 2011
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  23. Post #63
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    "Hates Gays"
    Ron Paul has said he wants the government out of the business of marriage and that it should be up to individuals to decide who they marry.

    "Against the 99 percent"
    Under a Paul presidency the upper, middle, and lower class would pay no income tax. And there wouldn't be senseless wars and excessive spending to call for the upper class to "pay their fair share".

    You don't have to agree with Ron Paul or his policies, but you have to agree that one would be wrong to say that he hates gays and the "99%".
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  24. Post #64
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    "Hates Gays"
    Ron Paul has said he wants the government out of the business of marriage and that it should be up to individuals to decide who they marry.

    "Against the 99 percent"
    Under a Paul presidency the upper, middle, and lower class would pay no income tax. And there wouldn't be senseless wars and excessive spending to call for the upper class to "pay their fair share".

    You don't have to agree with Ron Paul or his policies, but you have to agree that one would be wrong to say that he hates gays and the "99%".
    under a paul presidency employers would be able to fire people just because they're gay or because they're black or any other minority
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  25. Post #65
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    August 2011
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    Not really sure how they got labelled "Occupy protesters" when they weren't occupying anything, seems to me like it's dissolved into a larger movement now
    Anyone who isn't for the GOP is an Occupy Protester. Duh.

  26. Post #66
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    under a paul presidency employers would be able to fire people just because they're gay or because they're black or any other minority
    Ron Paul wants employers to be able to set their own hiring standards, therefore Ron Paul is a homophobic racist.
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  27. Post #67
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    Ron Paul wants employers to be able to set their own hiring standards, therefore Ron Paul is a homophobic racist.
    no ron paul wants to repeal the civil rights act, therefore ron paul is a homophobic racist
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  28. Post #68
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    no ron paul wants to repeal the civil rights act, therefore ron paul is a homophobic racist
    He wants to repeal the civil rights act because it is 1) Not permissible according to the constitution.

    And 2) Because the Civil Rights act is coercive since it FORCES people treat minorities in a certain way. And as a Libertarian Ron Paul believes that coercive legislation is unethical.
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  29. Post #69
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    "Hates Gays"
    Ron Paul has said he wants the government out of the business of marriage and that it should be up to individuals to decide who they marry.

    "Against the 99 percent"
    Under a Paul presidency the upper, middle, and lower class would pay no income tax. And there wouldn't be senseless wars and excessive spending to call for the upper class to "pay their fair share".

    You don't have to agree with Ron Paul or his policies, but you have to agree that one would be wrong to say that he hates gays and the "99%".
    He also wants to basically destroy any form of regulation of businesses, giving them free reign to do whatever they want and abuse whomever they want. Also, nice use of scare quotes in there. Just the little bit that you said was more than enough to show your views and is very clear indication that you'd be unwilling to ever listen to what the Occupy movement, or any other progressive movement for that matter, has to say.
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  30. Post #70
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    Marriage as an institution is generally useless in modern times. It is more of a financial agreement between two parties than it is a declaration of love. If two people love eachother they will be together regardless.

    As for homosexuality, people generally dislike homosexuals because 90% of them are flamboyant, obnoxious, and attention whores. As for me, I couldn't care less.
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  31. Post #71
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    He wants to repeal the civil rights act because it is 1) Not permissible according to the constitution.

    And 2) Because the Civil Rights act is coercive since it FORCES people treat minorities in a certain way. And as a Libertarian Ron Paul believes that coercive legislation is unethical.
    no he wants to repeal the civil rights act because he's a racist 100 year old prick who wants to go back to the days where blacks had to drink from different water fountains. even if he isn't all his policies will do is move equality in america backwards.
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  32. Post #72
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    You internet fanboys spouting viva la revolution and legalize drugs didn't believe me and rated me dumb when I said he was a Christian Conservative asshole just like the rest of the Republican Party. He isn't a libertarian, he says one thing because "independent" and "libertarianism" are the current "cool things" in politics. Having one or two good ideas once in a while doesn't excuse what he is doing.
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  33. Post #73
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    As for homosexuality, people generally dislike homosexuals because 90% of them are flamboyant, obnoxious, and attention whores. As for me, I couldn't care less.
    die
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  34. Post #74
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    He wants to repeal the civil rights act because it is 1) Not permissible according to the constitution.

    And 2) Because the Civil Rights act is coercive since it FORCES people treat minorities in a certain way. And as a Libertarian Ron Paul believes that coercive legislation is unethical.
    Been waiting for someone to point out the obvious, thank you.

    Edited:

    Very mature. You wish death upon someone that doesn't think like you do. Isn't that what happened during the Crusades (or pretty much every single war in history)? I mean, it's a given, the reasons behind war are ideological in nature.
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  35. Post #75
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    He also wants to basically destroy any form of regulation of businesses, giving them free reign to do whatever they want and abuse whomever they want. Also, nice use of scare quotes in there. Just the little bit that you said was more than enough to show your views and is very clear indication that you'd be unwilling to ever listen to what the Occupy movement, or any other progressive movement for that matter, has to say.
    First off, it's rude of you to make that many assumptions off of a simple application of grammar. I can sympathize with the goals of the occupy movements. I agree that corporations and the upper class are way too powerful. I just disagree with the majority of occupiers on the question of what is best way to address this problem.
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  36. Post #76
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    He also wants to basically destroy any form of regulation of businesses, giving them free reign to do whatever they want and abuse whomever they want. Also, nice use of scare quotes in there. Just the little bit that you said was more than enough to show your views and is very clear indication that you'd be unwilling to ever listen to what the Occupy movement, or any other progressive movement for that matter, has to say.
    Do you have any idea of the laws in place that protect corporations? It's a result of big government. Reading some Ayn Rand might give you that sort of clue.

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  37. Post #77
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    Very mature. You wish death upon someone that doesn't think like you do. Isn't that what happened during the Crusades (or pretty much every single war in history)? I mean, it's a given, the reasons behind war are ideological in nature.
    I think he's wishing death on you for being a horrible person.
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  38. Post #78
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    Very mature. You wish death upon someone that doesn't think like you do. Isn't that what happened during the Crusades (or pretty much every single war in history)? I mean, it's a given, the reasons behind war are ideological in nature.
    no he wants you to die because you're a shit talking idiot
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  39. Post #79
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    Do you have any idea of the laws in place that protect corporations? It's a result of big government. Reading some Ayn Rand might give you that sort of clue.

    you're done

  40. Post #80
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    no he wants you to die because you're a shit talking idiot
    bingo

    actually, I don't genuinely wish death on anyone, but I do think he's a shit talking idiot