[Tuskin]

I'd expect news at Quake Con in July

[ZeroTimesCookie]

Tuskin posted:

I'd expect news at Quake Con in July

can't wait until they switch the livestream off again

[Kegan]

gufu posted:

But it's a feature that would greatly aid mod making? I fail to see the fact that it could be seen as cheating, as a worthy excuse.

Graf Zahl, the guy behind GZDoom, pretty much hates all mods and mod makers. He's convinced it's all being made for malicious purposes.

[doommarine23]

Kegan posted:

Graf Zahl, the guy behind GZDoom, pretty much hates all mods and mod makers. He's convinced it's all being made for malicious purposes.

I'm sorry but can we have some story time my good man?

Nigga makes the ultimate nigga engine for modding, how and why does he hate modding even when he accepts some feature requests too and allows a huge modding community.

[kimr120]

He sounds like a guy that carmack would rip a new asshole for.

[ZeroTimesCookie]

Kegan posted:

Graf Zahl, the guy behind GZDoom, pretty much hates all mods and mod makers. He's convinced it's all being made for malicious purposes.

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php...47923&start=30

these seems to be what you're talking about I think? but I don't really see it. source please?

[Kegan]

doommarine23 posted:

I'm sorry but can we have some story time my good man?

Nigga makes the ultimate nigga engine for modding, how and why does he hate modding even when he accepts some feature requests too and allows a huge modding community.

Actually he didn't make it alone, he took ZDoom (which he was part of the original team), and made his own branch for OpenGL. Though funnily enough the GZDoom stands for "Graf Zahl"

ZeroTimesCookie posted:

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php...47923&start=30

these seems to be what you're talking about I think? but I don't really see it. source please?

I cannot find where he's talking about using mods for exploitation. But last time I checked the guy still has a bit of a hateboner towards most of the gameplay modding scene. If I can find some actual posts, I'll make sure to bring them up.

[M.Ciaster]

ZeroTimesCookie posted:

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php...47923&start=30

these seems to be what you're talking about I think? but I don't really see it. source please?

I dunno pretty much everything he says is kinda true

aside from the "I don't enjoy playing mods made by either of these groups" but this is pretty clearly just personal preference

[Kegan]

Also I promised GMOTA stuff

do you guys like Slimes? Cus these little boogers are replacing what the Pain Elemental replacement will be shooting.

[TheRealRudy]

Your mod free stay free, right?

[Megadave]

So has there been ANY leak from quakecon? I find it hard to believe there isn't even a single low quality picture.

[Butthurter]

Megadave posted:

So has there been ANY leak from quakecon? I find it hard to believe there isn't even a single low quality picture.

no one wants to interrupt a trailer/gameplay stream into being put to stop just to have security pointing at the elephant in the room
cant remember exactly how but i read they specifically checked everyone who had their phones on

[spekter]

Megadave posted:

So has there been ANY leak from quakecon? I find it hard to believe there isn't even a single low quality picture.

There's plenty of descriptions but 0 footage/photos.

[TerminusEst13]

gufu posted:

Is there a way to respawn a player in ZDoom?

It's possible to hack it, but it would take a whole ton of work.

Step 1: Force the player to be in buddha mode, one indestructable hit-point. Set their max health to 101.
Step 2: Using a combination of ACS and sbarinfo, give the player a dummy inventory counter that counts the player's health, but minus one. Have the health meter display that instead of their actual health.
Step 3: A constant monitor looping that check's the player's health, and when it reaches one they are rendered dead. Force chasecam (or don't, depending on the player's r_deathcamera setting), play death animation.
Step 4: Give the player ArtiTeleport in order to send them back at the beginning, reduce a lives counter by one (or don't, if they have infinite lives), restore camera/weapons/settings/health, and go.

If you're using Zandronum you can just use the ResetMap function, which restores everything in the map (switches, locks, doors, lifts, monsters, items, etc) to their default and original position instantly and would be beautiful for a Hotline Miami-esque mod, but unfortunately isn't available in ZDoom or GZDoom.

[Cryomundus]

Kegan posted:

Also I promised GMOTA stuff

do you guys like Slimes? Cus these little boogers are replacing what the Pain Elemental replacement will be shooting.

I realize this is wip, but having the slime nucleus still visible when its jumping would be pretty cool (or is that in your TODO list?). Can't wait too see the thing that spits these out.

[Kegan]

I might have created a monster here.

[PwnGModer]

Brutal Doom v20 Trailer

[Sableye]

PwnGModer posted:

Brutal Doom v20 Trailer

gotta gib'em credit where credit's due, thats one fun looking game

also its like the epitome of all those 90's PSA's about how video games are corrupting our youths

[Kegan]

The trailer is surprisingly well made, and I'm not the biggest fan of brutal doom, though I think the scrotum attachment on the shotgun is silly

[Tuskin]

Kegan posted:

The trailer is surprisingly well made, and I'm not the biggest fan of brutal doom, though I think the scrotum attachment on the shotgun is silly

Its a strap.

[TheRealRudy]

Tuskin posted:

Its a strap.

Not a big fan of it. It's look a bit out of place on 2D sprites. Oh well, there's bound to be a way to mod it out, right?

[Ghost101]

ZeroTimesCookie posted:

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php...47923&start=30

these seems to be what you're talking about I think? but I don't really see it. source please?

I think he's actually right in that there are 2-3 camps, the purists, the modern gameplay people, and then people in between. But that's not a bad thing, and it's not really his call to assume it's all negative. Ideally they'll all just make the mods they want and then you just play what you like. No big deal. I like playing SmoothDoom just as much as I like playing something crazy like Project MSX, and sometimes I'm in the mood for some Brutal Doom. Everyone's gotta just live and let live.

[PaperBurrito]

I want to remind everyone to go play Adventures of Square. Best TC ever, hands down.

[AtomicWaffle]

Ugh. So I'm trying to find a megawad I played a few months back, and have had little success. The main thing I'm remembering with it is that it had this amazing final level that consisted of four bridges with different "elements" (I think it was fire, nukage, blood, and something else) and was just a crazy-extensive map with a ton of teleport puzzles. It also had a particularly memorable level with a "hellmouth" that spawned waves of imps.

Can anyone help me out here?

[Ghost101]

Is it Going Down? I think I remember there being a level with a demon mouth that a bunch of monsters come out of.

[AtomicWaffle]

I might be wrong on that one. The main thing I remember was that massive final level with the main, four-bridge hub.

Edit: Yeah I definitely got them confused. It didn't have a hellmouth, just that crazy final level. I played through GD and it isn't it.

[Cryomundus]

Maybe it was Nova: The Birth ?

Or Valiant?

I can't recall anything that had a teleport puzzle at map30 tho. Still, would recommend playing both of those wads.

[AtomicWaffle]

Wasn't those, though I'll be sure to check them out! The main thing was that this map had this main, central hub with four bridges going out to different "elemental" areas, and I remember the whole wad being generally awesome. So far no luck finding it though.

[Kegan]

Slimes?



slimes

[Rika-chan]

Been playing Grezzo 2

I am in love

[riki2cool]

So I've been searching for this old doom-ish game for several years now, and I don't believe I've ever asked anyone here.

It's a 1998-2002 3D Egyptian crypt themed first person shooter (at least the first level/demo level is). The game starts out with you falling down a large hole. If you managed to stick to the right side as you fall you could land on a small platform with a diamond on it. I believe you collected diamonds to increase your score or something.

You basically shoot some enemies, I don't remember how they looked but I think they were tiki-themed oddly enough, or at least had some sort of tribal theme. You run up a ramp and jump unto a platform and now you're exposed to the outside. On both left and right there are walls so you can only go forward, where you find a pyramid guarded by a large rock door with a face on it that will crush you unless you're fast enough. If you get past him you end up in a tight corridor where you turn left.

Now there's a bridge or something, and under it there is sand (you're still in the pyramid I think, however there is no roof). Two phoenix-like birds, one blue and one red, will now circle around you and attack you and so on. Has anyone ever heard or seen of a game like this before?

[ZeroTimesCookie]

riki2cool posted:

So I've been searching for this old doom-ish game for several years now, and I don't believe I've ever asked anyone here.

It's a 1998-2002 3D Egyptian crypt themed first person shooter (at least the first level/demo level is). The game starts out with you falling down a large hole. If you managed to stick to the right side as you fall you could land on a small platform with a diamond on it. I believe you collected diamonds to increase your score or something.

You basically shoot some enemies, I don't remember how they looked but I think they were tiki-themed oddly enough, or at least had some sort of tribal theme. You run up a ramp and jump unto a platform and now you're exposed to the outside. On both left and right there are walls so you can only go forward, where you find a pyramid guarded by a large rock door with a face on it that will crush you unless you're fast enough. If you get past him you end up in a tight corridor where you turn left.

Now there's a bridge or something, and under it there is sand (you're still in the pyramid I think, however there is no roof). Two phoenix-like birds, one blue and one red, will now circle around you and attack you and so on. Has anyone ever heard or seen of a game like this before?

Powerslave/Exhumed? I haven't played it but it sounds like it

[Zang-Pog]

riki2cool posted:

So I've been searching for this old doom-ish game for several years now, and I don't believe I've ever asked anyone here.

It's a 1998-2002 3D Egyptian crypt themed first person shooter (at least the first level/demo level is). The game starts out with you falling down a large hole. If you managed to stick to the right side as you fall you could land on a small platform with a diamond on it. I believe you collected diamonds to increase your score or something.

You basically shoot some enemies, I don't remember how they looked but I think they were tiki-themed oddly enough, or at least had some sort of tribal theme. You run up a ramp and jump unto a platform and now you're exposed to the outside. On both left and right there are walls so you can only go forward, where you find a pyramid guarded by a large rock door with a face on it that will crush you unless you're fast enough. If you get past him you end up in a tight corridor where you turn left.

Now there's a bridge or something, and under it there is sand (you're still in the pyramid I think, however there is no roof). Two phoenix-like birds, one blue and one red, will now circle around you and attack you and so on. Has anyone ever heard or seen of a game like this before?

Montezuma's Return, perhaps?

[riki2cool]

Zang-Pog posted:

Montezuma's Return, perhaps?

Yes! That's it!

How did you find this?

Edited:

btw, this was the level I talked about.

Ah man the memories are coming back. The bouncy platforms, the pearls and even the ropes that sounded like meat being grinded when you climbed up them.

[Bloodshot12]

That game looks really advanced for 98

[Kegan]

Something seems different here. Hmmm.

[Bloodshot12]

http://quakeone.com/news/site-news/1...hn-romero.html

Originally Posted by John Romero
Hi Chris, sorry it took so long:

Originally Posted by hadowswift
I have to be the asshole and ask Romero if he's read any of "You Find Yourself in E1M1", if so, what does he think? Where could I improve as a creative writer in his opinion? *url http://quakeone.com/forums/quake-tal...self-e1m1.html
Originally Posted by Romero
I used to write stories like this with my friends where we’d write a sentence in an adventure and each person would either try to kill the character, save the character, or just do insane stuff. It’s a lot of fun. I read the thread on quakeone.com and saw it was interesting to some.

Originally Posted by hadowswift
Where is Romero living now? If it's away from home, does he miss Dallas/Richardson? (As fellow Dallasite/Richardsonite, I just gotta know )
Originally Posted by Romero
I’m living in silicon valley in California. I don’t miss Dallas as I was there for 11 years and had plenty of it.

Originally Posted by SSCHM
Tell him I said "hi," and ask him if he wants to 1v1 me on DM2.
Originally Posted by Romero
I don’t ever really deathmatch over the net – only here at my place……or at GDC.

Originally Posted by Wick3dLord
Mr. Romero, [NP]•striker• wants to know.... when are you going to stop by CAX and get gRaped?
Originally Posted by Romero
I was at CAX last year but didn’t see any deathmatching, just lots of pinball and classic games.

Originally Posted by JDSTONER
if you could ask how quake one and quake 2 are connected... this question has been baffling us single players for a long time
Originally Posted by Romero
Quake 1 & 2 are not connected at all. After I left there was an internal backlash against my design for Quake One, so they invented the Strogg and it all had nothing to do with the Lovecraftian lore we constructed in Quake One.

Originally Posted by JDSTONER
also ask if there was anything they wanted to put in quake they just could not do at the time. what hit the cutting room floor.
Originally Posted by Romero
The cutting room floor of Quake One had a ton of stuff on it. The game was originally not going to be an FPS with guns. Even redesigning the game as an FPS was more elaborate than what we shipped.

Originally Posted by JDSTONER
oh yea one other thing see if you can get the story out of him of that photo i posted of him trent from NIN and robin Williams seems like a strange combo there must be a good story to it.
Originally Posted by Romero
I never saw this photo.

Originally Posted by Mindz
I heard through the grapevine you are working on a new first person shooter game,I was curious as to if Quake would be having an influence of sorts on this game?Also, as you could imagine, us die-hard Quake1 fans have been yearning for that mythical new game that accurately captures the intensity / atmosphere that we've come to love about Quake1 multiplayer. I've played many modern first person shooter games,and none have actually done this in my opinion.
Originally Posted by Romero
Both Quake and DOOM are heavy influences on my new shooter’s design.

Originally Posted by Mindz
Would you ever consider utilizing the Quakeone.com community as beta testers for you're next or future projects?
Originally Posted by Romero
Yes, I probably would, as well as doomworld.com.

Originally Posted by Zop
So, let's ask him what his favorite question was, at least one that stood out apart from most.From either this episode of "Between two Quads" or previous Q&A'S
Originally Posted by Romero
Favorite question from where?

Originally Posted by Adam
Do you have any advice for game developers who are just starting out?
Originally Posted by Romero
Yes – learn at home. Read online guides. Practice 1000x. Make small projects, lots of them.

Originally Posted by Adam
What elements do you believe make good gameplay?
Originally Posted by Romero
Interesting decisions for the player. Awesome feedback for their actions. Mystery.

Originally Posted by Adam
Has your outlook changed in the last twenty years on how to make games?
Originally Posted by Romero
Yes, I’ve gotten much better at it so my outlook has changed.

Originally Posted by Adam
If you had still been at id when Doom3 and/or Rage had been created, would you have made them differently?
Originally Posted by Romero
I would not have made any more DOOM games after DOOM 2. I wouldn’t have made Rage because Fallout 3 was already out, and a post-apocalyptic future is an overdone setting.

Originally Posted by Talisa
has romero ever regretted leaving ID?
Originally Posted by Romero
Definitely not.

Originally Posted by Talisa
what does romero think how the future of ID (after quake) wouldve looked like if he hadnt left?
Originally Posted by Romero
We would not have made endless sequels of our games, we would have kept making new games where we release a shareware version and a full-price version. Our business model would have changed at some point, but we would have kept making brand-new games.

Originally Posted by Talisa
what are romero's favourite game-mods?"
and im not just talking about mods of ID-games, but just in general, of any games there are
Originally Posted by Romero
Counterstrike, TF2 and Portal are awesome mods that got fully developed.

Originally Posted by Mindz
I heard through the grapeinve you are working on a new first person shooter game,I was curious as to if Quake would be having an influence of sorts on this game?Also, as you could imagine, us die-hard Quake1 fans have been yearning for that mythical new game that accurately captures the intensity / atmosphere that we've come to love about Quake1 multiplayer. I've played many modern first person shooter games,and none have actually done this in my opinion.
Originally Posted by Romero
The intensity and atmosphere of the game is incredibly important. It will have its own special feeling to it.

Originally Posted by Mr.Burns/Monty
As with a lot of collaborative projects the end result is often a hybrid of the ideas formed from the individual contributions, a collective vision if you will. It might be interesting to get John's take on how different Quake may have looked and felt were it hypothetically a "Romero only" development.
Originally Posted by Romero
The original idea behind Quake was to see how well we could make a hand-to-hand fighting game in 3D. We would have experimented with camera angles/positioning and really dynamic character interactions and feedback. I can’t say it would have turned out great during development and we would have changed direction if so.

Originally Posted by Mr.Burns/Monty
In what direction would John liked to have taken quake in the sequels?
Originally Posted by Romero
I would not have made a sequel past Quake 2.

Originally Posted by Mr.Burns/Monty
What are John's views on the more recent developments such as the SMC, Darkplaces, FTE, and Qrack.
Originally Posted by Romero
I absolutely love the source ports of Quake. Darkplaces is my fave so far. What I really want is the music playing without the CD.

Originally Posted by Mr.Burns/Monty
Just to echo Talisa's idea, what was/is John's favourite Quake 1 mod?
Originally Posted by Romero
I don’t play Quake mods because I’m always busy making games. The runes and grappling hook were, of course, epic.

Originally Posted by Mr.Burns/Monty
What are John's hopes and suggestions for the future of Quake 1?
Originally Posted by Romero
Well, to me Quake One was done when we made it. I don’t see it going anywhere except having fans creating more levels and pushing the boundaries of what we made and maybe better expressing what we were going for in the areas of exploration, seeing amazing architecture, experiencing surprising and fun gameplay, and figuring out better ways to terrify the player.

[Starlight 456]

Someone on Twitter found the toy iD used to make the BFG.

Here's a comparison:

[Matsilagi]

Starlight 456 posted:

Someone on Twitter found the toy iD used to make the BFG.

Here's a comparison:

Toy name?

I plan on collecting all of those and keeping on a collection.

[Starlight 456]

Matsilagi posted:

Toy name?

I plan on collecting all of those and keeping on a collection.

He didn't give one, as far as I could tell. Sorry.