1. Post #1241
    ali3n92's Avatar
    April 2008
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    EDIT:The fact that G-Man is immune to any weapons or explosives is a bit creepy too.
    I don't see that as canon. You could say all the friendly characters are creepy as you can't kill them.
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  2. Post #1242
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    I don't see that as canon. You could say all the friendly characters are creepy as you can't kill them.
    I wasn't aiming for canon or non-canon, but it's still a wonder to me that he is immune to that. I guess you weren't supposed to kill G-Man, so they made him invincible.
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  3. Post #1243
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    He is also invincible in HL1 where you can kill your allies too, so I guess there is a reason for that.
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  4. Post #1244
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    He is also invincible in HL1 where you can kill your allies too, so I guess there is a reason for that.
    When you shoot him it reacts like metal i think. Suspicious, eh?
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  5. Post #1245
    Ask me about my 'female train' fetish.
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    When you shoot him it reacts like metal i think. Suspicious, eh?
    He just has the same model effect as parts of the alien grunt do. Since players were never meant to be able to shoot him in the first place, though they realised such a thing would be possible, they made him immune.

    Not to mention the story revolves around him pretty much.
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  6. Post #1246
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    By the way, how is Gordon able to kill millions of Combine without sleep? There's no resting point in HL1 or HL2 or any Half-Life game in that matter.

    I'm not saying that Gordon should sleep because he has millions of Combine to kill, just wondering.
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  7. Post #1247
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    By the way, how is Gordon able to kill millions of Combine without sleep? There's no resting point in HL1 or HL2 or any Half-Life game in that matter.
    Well, HL2 takes place during like 1 or 2 days.
    A person with that much adrenaline can definitely stay up for that long.
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  8. Post #1248
    Ask me about my 'female train' fetish.
    ViralHatred's Avatar
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    Well, HL2 takes place during like 1 or 2 days.
    A person with that much adrenaline can definitely stay up for that long.
    HL2 takes over a week. You were forgetting the "slow teleport" at Nova Prospekt (Though you don't exactly need sleep when you're demolecularized)

    It's night time at both Ravenholm and Nova Prospekt so it is 3 days minimum without including the teleport.

    As for staying awake? Freeman is drugged up on morphine and god knows what else. Poor guy.
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  9. Post #1249
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    HL2 takes over a week. You were forgetting the "slow teleport" at Nova Prospekt (Though you don't exactly need sleep when you're demolecularized)

    It's night time at both Ravenholm and Nova Prospekt so it is 3 days minimum without including the teleport.

    As for staying awake? Freeman is drugged up on morphine and god knows what else. Poor guy.
    It could also be argued that the HEV suit includes some sort of stuff that will help the wearer to stay up for longer.
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  10. Post #1250
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    I think he kind of slept 'off screen' in the mine straight after Ravenholm, since it's night when you go in and day when you come out.
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  11. Post #1251
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    HL2 takes over a week. You were forgetting the "slow teleport" at Nova Prospekt (Though you don't exactly need sleep when you're demolecularized)
    That week long transition was only a few seconds for Gordon and Alyx though, so it really was three days, to the player anyway.
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  12. Post #1252
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    Well, HL2 takes place during like 1 or 2 days.
    A person with that much adrenaline can definitely stay up for that long.
    I don't see how it could take 2 days. At not point do we loose complete control of Gordon. The player is Gordon, and HL2 takes a few hours to complete, so it seems more like it only takes a few hours from Gordon's perspective - if that makes sense.

    Unless time in game is a lot faster than the 'canon' time. Similar thing in Portal 2 when Wheatley says they have been doing something for 12 hours.
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  13. Post #1253
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    I don't see how it could take 2 days. At not point do we loose complete control of Gordon. The player is Gordon, and HL2 takes a few hours to complete, so it seems more like it only takes a few hours from Gordon's perspective - if that makes sense.

    Unless time in game is a lot faster than the 'canon' time. Similar thing in Portal 2 when Wheatley says they have been doing something for 12 hours.
    Game time is faster. You can see the time progression in the skyboxes, as it is night thrice in the game: in Ravenholm, Nova Prospekt and on top of the Citadel. The skybox names are also sky_day01/02/03.
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  14. Post #1254
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    Game time is faster. You can see the time progression in the skyboxes, as it is night thrice in the game: in Ravenholm, Nova Prospekt and on top of the Citadel. The skybox names are also sky_day01/02/03.
    So does that mean there are actually points where we should loose complete control of Gordon, or that he does things we don't see? Or does it just take him a lot longer to do everything?

    It doesn't seem like any of those would make much sense really, unless it was all 3.

    That would mean what happens in the game, isn't what actually happens.
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  15. Post #1255

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    So does that mean there are actually points where we should loose complete control of Gordon, or that he does things we don't see? Or does it just take him a lot longer to do everything?

    It doesn't seem like any of those would make much sense really, unless it was all 3.

    That would mean what happens in the game, isn't what actually happens.
    Nah what Game time means is where time runs faster to aid story telling or atmosphere, like Ravenholm is supposed to be scary so naturally it would have to take place at night, or in GTA hours go in minutes to give a better perspective of time passing by.
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  16. Post #1256
    Michael Bay Christus
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    October 2010
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    In Counter-Strike: Source, attempts to join one specific server causes the game to crash.

    My mind just goes "FUCK YOU!"
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  17. Post #1257
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    In Counter-Strike: Source, attempts to join one specific server causes the game to crash.

    My mind just goes "FUCK YOU!"
    what does this have to do with the topic
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  18. Post #1258
    Michael Bay Christus
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    October 2010
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    what does this have to do with the topic
    Mind fuckery...

    Mind goes FUCK..

    I was trying to be funny... It seems to have failed. But also it don't make no sense.
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  19. Post #1259
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    So does that mean there are actually points where we should loose complete control of Gordon, or that he does things we don't see? Or does it just take him a lot longer to do everything?

    It doesn't seem like any of those would make much sense really, unless it was all 3.

    That would mean what happens in the game, isn't what actually happens.
    I felt as if you were in control of Gordon the entire time, it is just that the timescale is shifted to match what it would actually take to achieve feats such a crossing through ravenholm and its mines. It more and likely would take a full night to get through it all.

    So, really what you are doing is playing through a 'summary' of Gordons adventures, where small things, such as pausing for a breath, are left out.
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  20. Post #1260
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    September 2009
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    I think he kind of slept 'off screen' in the mine straight after Ravenholm, since it's night when you go in and day when you come out.
    Could be, but it could also probably be because when Gordon enters Black Mesa East, it was already sunset.
    He may have also spent quite some time in between Ravenholm, the mines then to the train yard until it was morning.
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  21. Post #1261
    TCB
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    I was trying to be funny...
    You should probably stop doing that.
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  22. Post #1262
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    Father Grigori's madness, the poor guy was probably looked up to by the whole town, and he's had to gun them all down, his congregation came looking to him for peace, and killing them was the best way.
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  23. Post #1263
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    July 2010
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    Father Grigori's madness, the poor guy was probably looked up to by the whole town, and he's had to gun them all down, his congregation came looking to him for peace, and killing them was the best way.
    I misread "looked" as "locked"...


    ...huh, changes the feeling when you think about it like that.
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  24. Post #1264
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    It's also possible that Grigori was the crazy old priest who lived alone in the old church and spoke his sermons every Sunday to an absent crowd. He may have been the kind of character who was paranoid about God's love for humanity and was expecting an apocalypse. So, he ended up being the most prepared for the headcrab shelling of Ravenholm. By the time Gordon arrives, he has made a system of zombie extermination, and feels he is doing God's work as a man of faith to drive back the demons with his thousands of rounds of Winchester ammunition.

    I think this makes sense because all citizens who were processed were sent to the Cities. Ravenholm was destroyed by headcrab infestation, and the number of zombies about lend evidence to the townsfolk's zombification before they could be processed.

    So, Ravenholm's destruction might have been part of a shock & awe campaign by the Combine. We know they killed off a lot of humanity, and rounded up the rest. Seems like the ground forces didn't bother trying to occupy the town, and just shelled it instead.

    Thus, the first experience the town would have had with the Combine and other otherworldly events after the Cascade would have been headcrab invasion. To Grigori, it'd be like a purge sent by God, and in his mind, surviving the plague and cleansing the Earth was the way to please the Lord.

    I can imagine him boarding up the church windows and getting Annabelle out of her box, rustling around for the ammunition in the basement while he mumbles to himself how he was right all along, and how the sinners will pay, laughing while the townsfolk's screams fill the night.
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  25. Post #1265
    It's also possible that Grigori was the crazy old priest who lived alone in the old church and spoke his sermons every Sunday to an absent crowd. He may have been the kind of character who was paranoid about God's love for humanity and was expecting an apocalypse. So, he ended up being the most prepared for the headcrab shelling of Ravenholm. By the time Gordon arrives, he has made a system of zombie extermination, and feels he is doing God's work as a man of faith to drive back the demons with his thousands of rounds of Winchester ammunition.

    I think this makes sense because all citizens who were processed were sent to the Cities. Ravenholm was destroyed by headcrab infestation, and the number of zombies about lend evidence to the townsfolk's zombification before they could be processed.

    So, Ravenholm's destruction might have been part of a shock & awe campaign by the Combine. We know they killed off a lot of humanity, and rounded up the rest. Seems like the ground forces didn't bother trying to occupy the town, and just shelled it instead.

    Thus, the first experience the town would have had with the Combine and other otherworldly events after the Cascade would have been headcrab invasion. To Grigori, it'd be like a purge sent by God, and in his mind, surviving the plague and cleansing the Earth was the way to please the Lord.

    I can imagine him boarding up the church windows and getting Annabelle out of her box, rustling around for the ammunition in the basement while he mumbles to himself how he was right all along, and how the sinners will pay, laughing while the townsfolk's screams fill the night.
    Eh, we know that Ravenholm was shelled FAIRLY recently, as by Alyx's line that mentions them (eli and alyx) going up there for supplies.
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  26. Post #1266
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    We all know Breen didn't know of Ravenholm 'till a certain concerned citizen showed him pics of how beautiful life in Ravenholm was.
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  27. Post #1267
    Ask me about my 'female train' fetish.
    ViralHatred's Avatar
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    We all know Breen didn't know of Ravenholm 'till a certain concerned citizen showed him pics of how beautiful life in Ravenholm was.


    http://hlcomic.com/index.php?date=2005-12-14
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  28. Post #1268
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  29. Post #1269
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    Ah, that line by Breen has served me well throughout the years :allears:
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  30. Post #1270
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    I miss concerned, in my opinion one of the best gaming comics ever.
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  31. Post #1271
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    I think he kind of slept 'off screen' in the mine straight after Ravenholm, since it's night when you go in and day when you come out.
    If he did, hopefully not near the rollerblade.
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  32. Post #1272
    WiP about GW2
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  33. Post #1273
    The best headhumper of the galaxy.
    RockmanYoshi's Avatar
    January 2012
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    Oh god that stuff is amazing!
    Concerned? Yeah, that comic is the shit, too bad there are no more Concerned comics.
    There was a fanmade Concerned 2 taking place in the events of Episode 1, but it ended after Urban Idiot.
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  34. Post #1274
    TCB
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    Concerned? Yeah, that comic is the shit, too bad there are no more Concerned comics.
    There was a fanmade Concerned 2 taking place in the events of Episode 1, but it ended after Urban Idiot.
    Concerned 2 was fucking awful and shamed the name of Concerned.
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  35. Post #1275
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    Concerned 2 was fucking awful and shamed the name of Concerned.
    It did suck, but at least it was a tad funny.
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  36. Post #1276

    April 2012
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    HL2 takes over a week. You were forgetting the "slow teleport" at Nova Prospekt (Though you don't exactly need sleep when you're demolecularized)

    It's night time at both Ravenholm and Nova Prospekt so it is 3 days minimum without including the teleport.

    As for staying awake? Freeman is drugged up on morphine and god knows what else. Poor guy.
    But morphine makes you sleepy
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  37. Post #1277
    Ask me about my 'female train' fetish.
    ViralHatred's Avatar
    January 2006
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    But morphine makes you sleepy
    His adrenal gland is probably working overtime, offsetting any drowsiness caused by the morphine doses.
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  38. Post #1278
    But morphine makes you sleepy
    Actually, that's the cool thing about pain-killers that are in the same class as morphine; they don't make you tired -- they only suppress your central nervous system which means you suddenly feel REALLY relaxed (so some people get tired) but other than that you are still conscious.
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  39. Post #1279
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    January 2010
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    Are you guys seriously debating this? It's a game.
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  40. Post #1280
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    Dennab
    June 2007
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    Are you guys seriously debating this? It's a game.
    Great argument. I'm sure they'll stop having fun now.
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