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    (April 6) -- The death of a 6-year-old Oregon girl sent to her room after exchanging cross words with her mother has been classified as a suicide by a state medical examiner.

    After her mother told her to go to her room, Samantha Kuberski, a first-grader in McMinnville, Ore., crawled into an unused crib, tied one end of a belt around her neck, the other on a bar of the crib, and hanged herself, according to reports.

    The incident happened on Dec. 2, days shy of the girl's 7th birthday, making her the youngest person in Oregon history to have committed suicide.

    But McMinnville police investigating Samantha's death are not convinced that the girl understood the consequences of her actions. They are challenging the classification of suicide. Samantha's death, they argue, was the result of an accident.

    "The disagreement is a little more philosophical than it is material to the case," McMinnville police Capt. Dennis Marks told KGW News in Portland. "It's not that we disagree with the mechanics of what happened. It's the finding that a 6-year-old could form that kind of intent."

    Dr. Clifford Nelson, Oregon's deputy medical examiner, made the suicide determination based on a variety of factors, including interviews with the grief-stricken family. And Dr. Karen Gunson, the chief medical examiner for the state, said that investigators learned that the girl's parents had warned all of their children of the dangers of playing with belts around their necks.

    "Statements were made by the girl that indicated she was going to kill herself," Gunson told KGW News. "She had the means and she realized that if she put something around her neck that was dangerous and could cause death -- because her parents had told her that. My contention is that shows intent."

    Samantha threatened to kill herself as she was sent to her room, according to her family.

    Citing a respect for privacy for the family, Brad Berry, the district attorney in Yamhill County, has refused to release police records of Samantha's death to the press. He said that no criminal charges have been filed.
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  2. Post #2
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    What a stupid kid.
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  3. Post #3
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    What a stupid kid.
    But they'll learn when they grow up.














    If they grow up. :smugdog:
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    oh wow, i wonder how the parents feel
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    inb4 OMG VIDYAGAEMS!

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    inb4 OMG VIDYAGAEMS!
    no, not really.
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  7. Post #7
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    It shocks me that such a young child could consider ending it's life... It's a shame, too, she had a whole life ahead of her...
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    There had to be signs of this coming before it happened.
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    How does a six year old learn to hang themselves?
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    "Hey baby hows it hangin.........."
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    How does a six year old learn to hang themselves?
    They play a lot of hangman.


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    That must be so terrible for the parents, what a dumb fucking kid
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    It's obvious she was just trying to let off some steam with auto-asphyxiation.
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    She had the means and she realized that if she put something around her neck that was dangerous and could cause death -- because her parents had told her that. My contention is that shows intent.
    This world is sad...
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    Not as sad as that little girl was.
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    oh wow, i wonder how the parents feel
    Fox tried to get an interview with the family, but they were too choked up.
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    They play a lot of hangman.


    SUICID_
    I think the last letter is Q.
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    Oh, god. I think this might have been the kid who threatened to kill herself yesterday when Facepunch went down.
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    ^It was a girl. I doubt a 6 year old girl would be on FP. A boy would make sense but not a girl.

    Go figure.
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    Bit late with that one Google Ads.

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    Jesus that's horrible though.
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    This is extremely gruesome imo.

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    That's just fucking horrible :(
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    She probably saw it in a movie and thought that was what everyone did when they were upset, not realising it killed you. She definitely didn't know what she was doing.
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    Fucked up shit.
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    Well maybe she wanted to make paint to her parents so she thought kill herself. She didn't thought about consecuences....these kids..
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    inb4 "This make me lose faith in humanity"

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    I think this fits the mood well.


  28. Post #28
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    Smart Kid. I thought I was amazing for knowing how to talk and walk.
    This kid knew how to commit suicide.
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    Sad, but if someone is dumb enough at 6 to kill themselves, odds are they're going to die from their own stupidity sooner or later anyway.
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    Sad, but if someone is dumb enough at 6 to kill themselves, odds are they're going to die from their own stupidity sooner or later anyway.
    Uhh yeah, 6 year olds =/= smart.
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    Sad, but if someone is dumb enough at 6 to kill themselves, odds are they're going to die from their own stupidity sooner or later anyway.
    Most people who kill themselves are actually more intelligent than normal people. The reason they do it, is because they either have an idealized version of the world that isn't coming true, so they assume that there's nothing left to live for or because they understand that it is human nature, when brought up in a competitive environment to be individualistic and they can't deal with the grey areas of morality.
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    This is a fail of tiny proportions. :aaa:

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    Most people who kill themselves are actually more intelligent than normal people. The reason they do it, is because they either have an idealized version of the world that isn't coming true, so they assume that there's nothing left to live for or because they understand that it is human nature, when brought up in a competitive environment to be individualistic and they can't deal with the grey areas of morality.
    In other words, the smarter you are the quicker you die.

  33. Post #33
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    inb4 OMG VIDYAGAEMS!
    Don't be silly, this isn't one of those articles that people blame video games on.

  34. Post #34
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    Most people who kill themselves are actually more intelligent than normal people. The reason they do it, is because they either have an idealized version of the world that isn't coming true, so they assume that there's nothing left to live for or because they understand that it is human nature, when brought up in a competitive environment to be individualistic and they can't deal with the grey areas of morality.
    So having an idealized version of the world makes you intelligent?

  35. Post #35
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    So having an idealized version of the world makes you intelligent?
    No, but most intelligent people have an idealized vision of the world that they hope to one day fulfill. When they fail, they hang!

    More out of desperation for something better, I would assume. Seeing how fucked up the world is today, I'm not surprised that a lot of people are killing themselves. Uh, including 6 yr. olds. ROFL

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    Although I don't know what the law dictates in the State of Oregon, but in Canadian legal code it's generally understood that children under the age of 12 do not have the metal capacity to make decisions for themselves, or at least make rational decisions based on sound facts.

    I'm really sorry to hear about this, it's terrible for the girl's family.
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    No, but most intelligent people have an idealized vision of the world that they hope to one day fulfill. When they fail, they hang!
    I fail to see how this is true... in any way. Most people in general have goals, the idea of what they want out of life, which you could call ideological, but I call it just having dreams. And just because people fail at thier goals in life doesn't mean they are going to kill themselves. I don't think people of one intelligence are more likely to kill themselves than another, that seems poorly thought out.
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    She probably saw it in a movie and thought that was what everyone did when they were upset, not realising it killed you. She definitely didn't know what she was doing.
    What films are 6 year olds watching with hanging scenes?

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    i guess you could say... her actions were quite childish.... xD
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    I fail to see how this is true... in any way. Most people in general have goals, the idea of what they want out of life, which you could call ideological, but I call it just having dreams. And just because people fail at thier goals in life doesn't mean they are going to kill themselves. I don't think people of one intelligence are more likely to kill themselves than another, that seems poorly thought out.
    I did not say of one intelligence. However, the greater intelligence you have, the more likely you are to kill yourself, because you see through the facades of society, and lack the ability to change them. Which creates frustration. In most people this would cause a drive to do better in order to be in the position to change things as they see fit. However many intelligent people, such as those with genius level IQs tend to have very low Emotional development, and because of this are secluded and solitary. This could lead to suicide in that they would have no peers with which to discuss their problems and to aid them cope with the realities rather than the ideals of life.