1. Post #1961
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    Take my advice with a grain of salt, but if you are going with rails shouldn't you be running a MWD to insure you stay outside the enemies range?
    Nope, with the AB/web/scram, it's faster than other frigs. It should be able to keep range at 7-8k, which is just inside scram range and negates the most of the damage the other guy will be doing. It'll also beat a dualprop Taranis no problem.

    snipe
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  2. Post #1962
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  3. Post #1963
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    Oh gawd, EvE Online....I spent soooooo much time on this, but stopped like a year ago. It was all going great, but then YOU FUCKERS had to make this thread and make me play again.

    Gotta admit though, I love mining ^-^. Dunno why, I just like the big, long trips and the vast expans- FELDSPAR

    OUT OF FUCKING NOWHERE
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  4. Post #1964
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    Oh gawd, EvE Online....I spent soooooo much time on this, but stopped like a year ago. It was all going great, but then YOU FUCKERS had to make this thread and make me play again.

    Gotta admit though, I love mining ^-^. Dunno why, I just like the big, long trips and the vast expans- FELDSPAR

    OUT OF FUCKING NOWHERE
    You need to see a doctor.
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  5. Post #1965
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    what's wrong with enjoying mining?


    or are you just talking about his general incoherence?
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  6. Post #1966
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    Incoherence does not begin to describe...
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  7. Post #1967
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    what's wrong with enjoying mining?


    or are you just talking about his general incoherence?
    Mining:

    BBBZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZTTTT

    BBBZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZTTTT

    BBBZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZTTTT

    Warp to station, dock, warp back.

    Repeat
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  8. Post #1968
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    Mining:

    BBBZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZTTTT

    BBBZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZTTTT

    BBBZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZTTTT

    Warp to station, dock, warp back.

    Repeat
    not really. but even then, I don't see the problem with that.



    and don't forget that your precious pvp would be impossible without us.
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  9. Post #1969
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    and don't forget that your precious pvp would be impossible without us.



    Yeah, no.
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  10. Post #1970
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    and don't forget that your precious pvp would be impossible without us.
    and don't forget that your precious hulks and t2 mining vessels would be impossible without us.
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  11. Post #1971
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    Yeah, no.
    Yeah, it would actually
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  12. Post #1972
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    Yeah, no.
    He's technically right though

    edit:
    The miner I mean.
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  13. Post #1973
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    Yeah, it would actually
    Hardly. Before Tyrannis was released, the overwhelming majority of minerals produced came from missions, not mining. Though CCP has adjusted the loot tables, I'd be willing to bet that's still true, for the most part. If all the dedicated miners just stopped mining, it's not like it PvP would suddenly cease and ships would become impossible to produce. Prices might go up a bit, but there's enough people with miner alts and enough minerals coming in from missions to keep things going.
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  14. Post #1974
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    Alright, so I started the trial recently, chose caldari and did all the military tutorial agents and whatever, which ende up giving me a free comorant, Merlin and Condor etc. etc. etc.
    Then I tried to try out an actual level 1 mission agent and got my comorant blown up, and then my condor as well trying to salvage the wreckage :doh: - (which is why I don't play at 12 am anymore)

    So, what's the best choice for me in terms of a new ship?
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  15. Post #1975
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    ok im trying this game what is the point of eve im doing 21 day trial :) and i want some tips.
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  16. Post #1976
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    Alright, so I started the trial recently, chose caldari and did all the military tutorial agents and whatever, which ende up giving me a free comorant, Merlin and Condor etc. etc. etc.
    Then I tried to try out an actual level 1 mission agent and got my comorant blown up, and then my condor as well trying to salvage the wreckage :doh: - (which is why I don't play at 12 am anymore)

    So, what's the best choice for me in terms of a new ship?


    Kestrel if you can afford it. Read up on how to fit properly before flying one, though.
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  17. Post #1977
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    -snip- wops read stuff too fast

    Also, how long do wreckages last for? I want to get my stuff back a bit later.
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  18. Post #1978
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    Hardly. Before Tyrannis was released, the overwhelming majority of minerals produced came from missions, not mining. Though CCP has adjusted the loot tables, I'd be willing to bet that's still true, for the most part. If all the dedicated miners just stopped mining, it's not like it PvP would suddenly cease and ships would become impossible to produce. Prices might go up a bit, but there's enough people with miner alts and enough minerals coming in from missions to keep things going.
    lets assume you're correct. in that case, because all the mineral used for manufacturing come from missions (how is this possible exactly? reprocessing loot?) this would mean that what miners mine just sits in the market and circulates continually without ever being used. this would mean that the price of minerals would decrease exponentially as time goes on. this is not the case. we constantly put more and more minerals into the market. and according to you, they aren't being used, so there would be massive quantities available, and the price would drop. but it doesn't. it fluctuates as would anything else.


    I'm not saying you're wrong because of this, but I would also like to know where you get your info. you know, the statistics on the sources of all minerals used for all ship manufacturing everywhere.
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  19. Post #1979
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    I think they last for 2 hours or so. Why can't you afford a kestrel with 1.5 million? I thought they were a few hundred thousand, and fittings shouldn't set you back that much.
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  20. Post #1980
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    I think they last for 2 hours or so. Why can't you afford a kestrel with 1.5 million? I thought they were a few hundred thousand, and fittings shouldn't set you back that much.
    -snip- wops read stuff too fast
    Yeah I was checking prices as I was in a pod so ships' prices were messed up or something.
    I'm really new at this game
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  21. Post #1981
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    It's possible you were in an area that wasn't well stocked with kestrels, hence prices were higher. Just something to keep in mind
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  22. Post #1982
    lets assume you're correct. in that case, because all the mineral used for manufacturing come from missions (how is this possible exactly? reprocessing loot?) this would mean that what miners mine just sits in the market and circulates continually without ever being used. this would mean that the price of minerals would decrease exponentially as time goes on. this is not the case. we constantly put more and more minerals into the market. and according to you, they aren't being used, so there would be massive quantities available, and the price would drop. but it doesn't. it fluctuates as would anything else.


    I'm not saying you're wrong because of this, but I would also like to know where you get your info. you know, the statistics on the sources of all minerals used for all ship manufacturing everywhere.
    The original statement is that PvP would not exist without miners.
    Fact is, the guy who responded is correct, the majority of minerals comes from the reprocessing of missions, and it would continue to be this way even if miners suddenly stopped existing.
    Though we'd have problems when it comes to the T2 ships, PVP would still exist.

    http://www.eve-search.com/thread/989786/page/2#46 (Before you say "40% isn't the majority!" there are also drone complexes to take into account.)

    Fact is, if reprocessors stopped existing, mineral prices on the low end would absolutely skyrocket.
    Nobody is saying that the minerals miners create on the market aren't being used, it's just that mission runners create more of them. The same goes for the T1 modules market, it's absolutely dominated by loot sellers rather than manufacturers.
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  23. Post #1983
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    CCP are so passive about banning macro miners because banning them all would skyrocket the price of everything due to a hughe void needing to be filled.

    Loot tables have been adjusted so mineral prices will go up this month.
    PI will allow people to produce t2 components cheaply so t2 prices will go down.
    T1 and T2 prices will converge a bit.
    Which is good.
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  24. Post #1984
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    Anyone have ideas for a name?

    [EVE Online] AFK Cloaker Sappin' My System
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  25. Post #1985
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    Anyone have ideas for a name?

    [EVE Online] AFK Cloaker Sappin' My System
    [EVE Online] Nyx BPO surprise edition

    [EVE Online] Planetary griefing
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  26. Post #1986
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    sniip

    Edited:

    ok for some reason my post is #0

    Edited:

    there we go it has a number now
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  27. Post #1987
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    FUCK, i was probing for a WH exit, just when i hit 99.99% (seriously 99.99%) all my probes expired and i have no more because i gave them to a corp mate.

    THERE IS NO ONE HERE!
    FML
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  28. Post #1988
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    wow

    ouch, what are you in?
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  29. Post #1989
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    Nwm, fellow corpmate logged in and he happened to be in the same WH, lend me some probes and we got out.
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  30. Post #1990
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    EVE Online: Fear the Cyno Drake
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  31. Post #1991
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    i know i sound very stupid but whats a good ship for killing things all around thats under 200k
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  32. Post #1992
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    uh. none. but I would recommend a incursus, if cheap pvp is what you need. however, I have little to no experience where pvp is concerned.
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  33. Post #1993
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    i know i sound very stupid but whats a good ship for killing things all around thats under 200k
    I have little PvP experience but you can kit out a Merlin for about 500k that should work just fine... I love the Merlin, I love it so
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  34. Post #1994
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    Rifter

    will be repeated alot
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  35. Post #1995
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    [EVE: Online] The Mercoxit is a Lie
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  36. Post #1996
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    Anyone have ideas for a name?

    [EVE Online] AFK Cloaker Sappin' My System
    [EVE Online] Nuke From Orbit.



    Yeah I know you can't do it... Yet.
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  37. Post #1997
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    [EVE Online] Nyx BPO surprise edition
    This
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  38. Post #1998
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    Kill the thread, new one is being made alive.
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  39. Post #1999
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    EVE Online: WARPING TO STARGATE
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  40. Post #2000
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    [EVE Online] Modern Blobfare 2
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