1. Post #1681
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    Blackfire's Avatar
    July 2005
    525 Posts
    Guys guys guys, my dad canceled tv cause directtv was nickel and diming us for HD, now I won't have tv 'til tomorrow and if I miss lost I will kill someone, are there any sites that stream it pacific time?
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  2. Post #1682
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    Azenin's Avatar
    November 2008
    247 Posts
    I liked that episode, but it didn't top Ab Aeterno.
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  3. Post #1683
    The people of whenever the hell that was speak great modern English
    I thought it was fairly obvious they were still speaking Latin, but were "speaking" English so that we wouldn't be reading subtitles the entire time.

    Also, pretty revealing episode. I think this is the closest we'll ever get to finding out what the island really "is." Does anyone else think that, perhaps, that lady was another Smoke Monster?
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  4. Post #1684
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    meppers's Avatar
    April 2007
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    first half was just filler
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  5. Post #1685
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    February 2006
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    I really don't like how they showed what happened, but didn't explain any of it.
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  6. Post #1686
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    August 2009
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    I honestly don't understand how any of you can say that episode was worth watching at all, let alone good. The whole "this light is in everyone and you must protect it" seemed like it would fit in better in a Disney movie than in a TV show like Lost.
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  7. Post #1687

    January 2010
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    So, I'm not sure but   is MiB the smoke monster or did his dead body only set it free?   
    because that makes things interesting
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  8. Post #1688
    Malum Letalis's Avatar
    August 2009
    29 Posts
    Pretty sure he's the smoke monster since their adopted mom said that YOU would be worse than dead, not release something worse than you dying.
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  9. Post #1689

    January 2010
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    well being dead and causing the ultimate evil to be unleashed upon the world is worse than just dying imo
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  10. Post #1690
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    July 2007
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    I think Jacob's brother is dead. And the actual smoke monster is taking his form. Cause wasn't said that the smoke monster could only take the place of a dead person?
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  11. Post #1691
    This is -- excuse me -- a DAMN fine cup of coffee.
    The_Marine's Avatar
    August 2008
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    That fucking sucked, holy shit.

    How the hell did they manage to screw up a Jacob/MIB episode? HOW?
    It was so pointless and answered fuck all.(adam and eve answer felt incredibly forced and the smoke monster origin was half-answered.)
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  12. Post #1692
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    June 2007
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       I believe that the smoke monster is all the hate and sorrow from Jacobs brother. Maybe even his soul but on destroy everyone mode.   
    Also I agree this episode wasn't the best, the could have done better after watching the Richard episode. The end was still interesting though when John Locke walked in on Jack and Kate, the quote he said was epic.
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  13. Post #1693
    This is -- excuse me -- a DAMN fine cup of coffee.
    The_Marine's Avatar
    August 2008
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    Wait, what's that about Locke walking in on Jack & Kate?

    I didn't see that, what the fuck?
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  14. Post #1694

    January 2010
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    I think Jacob's brother is dead. And the actual smoke monster is taking his form. Cause wasn't said that the smoke monster could only take the place of a dead person?
    Nah, now that I actually think about it I'm wrong.
    Lost has been drilling into our heads that Smokey wants to leave the island and go home. Which is exactly what we learn that MiB wants.
    I also remembered that Smokey tells Kate that his mother was crazy
    I think that MiB's consciousness or spirit was just separated from his body and that's what the smoke monster is.

    God this show is dumb

    Edited:

    Wait, what's that about Locke walking in on Jack & Kate?

    I didn't see that, what the fuck?
    It's from season one don't worry about it.

    Edited:

    That fucking sucked, holy shit.
    agreed
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  15. Post #1695
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    February 2006
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    So basically the island runs on a magical light that causes electromagnetism, teleportation, time travel, and people to turn into murderous smoke creatures that can turn into dead people?

    Very sci-fi.
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  16. Post #1696

    January 2010
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    Also I don't freaking understand how Jacob's mom managed to drag MiB's body out of the well, fill the entire well with dirt, and then kill and burn an entire village to the ground.
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  17. Post #1697
    This is -- excuse me -- a DAMN fine cup of coffee.
    The_Marine's Avatar
    August 2008
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    Very fantasy and a total cop out is more like it.
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  18. Post #1698
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    February 2009
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    The island took the form of Jacobs brothers body.
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  19. Post #1699
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    January 2006
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  20. Post #1700
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    April 2010
    81 Posts
    I honestly don't understand how any of you can say that episode was worth watching at all, let alone good. The whole "this light is in everyone and you must protect it" seemed like it would fit in better in a Disney movie than in a TV show like Lost.
    Light is a symbol is many many many forms of literature. Not just Disney crap.

    Also, think about the relation between the MIB and Jacob with Cain and Abel. Very similar is some ways.
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  21. Post #1701
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    January 2007
    420 Posts
    How the hell did the town get completely fucked?

    And yeah that episode blew. The only part that made me sorta tingly was when they started flashing back and forth between jacob laying his mother and brother to rest/jack and kate discovering the bodies.
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  22. Post #1702
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    November 2008
    856 Posts
    It started off pretty slow, but it began to pick up towards the end. Hell, I liked the episode, but I understand why some of you guys didn't like it. The whole Light thing was kinda like they just crapped it out but it does explain a lot of things from all the other seasons. Oh ya, did anyone feel the parts with punching and head smashing seem more fake than usual? I don't know, usually the scenes like that seem more real and intense.
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  23. Post #1703
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    February 2006
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    I think the episode would have been more satisfying if it were longer. That way there would have been more time for things to develop and more things could have been explained.
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  24. Post #1704
    This is -- excuse me -- a DAMN fine cup of coffee.
    The_Marine's Avatar
    August 2008
    8,795 Posts
    Could you possibly make that into avatar form? (70x70 preferably and under 60kb)
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  25. Post #1705
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    January 2007
    420 Posts
    I think the episode would have been more satisfying if it were longer. That way there would have been more time for things to develop and more things could have been explained.
    They had enough time to answer more questions then they did - that's just how frustrating the writers can be. They could have easily stuffed in more juicy stuff but noooo..gotta leave us asking questions up until the final episode. =(
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  26. Post #1706
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    March 2010
    610 Posts
    I liked that episode. I like Jacob he's one of my favourite characters so I'm glad he got a full episode.
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  27. Post #1707
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    August 2005
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    I agree with a previous poster, they revealed stuff but didn't accually explain any of it.

    seriously, at the stage of the final season should they still be fucking us around like that?

    Plus the way the woman describes the light it seems like a cop out. I mean, the way over the past seasons they've built up the island and it's powers, I suspected something better.

    I generally feel disapointed and am quite worried that the basic story has been explained to us and we will never know fully.
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  28. Post #1708
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    April 2010
    5,811 Posts
    So Jacob's brother is Justin Bieber. No wonder he's the way he is.
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  29. Post #1709
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    September 2009
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    Richard will replace Jacob because he drank the wine and he and Jacob became one.
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  30. Post #1710
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    May 2008
    3,545 Posts
    They said from the beginning that not all questions will be answered. Lots of people will probably be pissed off at what is left unanswered(previous posts already shows this due to the newest episode).

    Yeah, I'm a little dissatisfied with this episode, but not because they didn't explain it. But it's actually because I think that Jacob's character is severely inconsistent. Look at him before he died, look at him in Richard's episode and look at him in this episode. He's so god damn different each time. And what the light was going to do was predictable right after it was said what would happen to a person if they went into it.

    Otherwise I think it allowed us to piece more together.

    Richard will replace Jacob because he drank the wine and he and Jacob became one.
    I doubt it. Richard should finally be able to die soon after doing whatever he is supposed to do.

    Jack will be Jacob because he wants to stay, Sawyer will be MiB because he wants to leave, and Hurley will likely take place of Richard, if there's even a need for that.
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  31. Post #1711
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    January 2005
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    Their mom was evil personified. She coldbloodedly murdered a helpless woman who had just given birth, because of what she MIGHT do with her own children.

    I think, therefore, the mom was smoke monster #1 and that's how she wasted the village and trashed the well. She is 'killed' which is really a reset, hence the 'thanks'. When Jacob predictably tosses MiB into the fire, she is reborn in him.

    The writing seemed very sloppy. What's dead? Then right after they are hunting pigs...uh dead is what happens when you stick the pig. WTF?

    And I assume MiB is getting some in the village. You'd think he'd tell his brother "Dude, if you join us at least you can bang a chick besides mom all the time."

    Speaking of which, anyone else notice MiB penetrated his mom from the rear and she THANKED him for it?!?!
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  32. Post #1712
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    September 2009
    2,255 Posts
    Jack will be Jacob because he wants to stay, Sawyer will be MiB because he wants to leave, and Hurley will likely take place of Richard, if there's even a need for that.
    Dude I used to think that before tonight but now I don't know...it's really hard to guess where this show is going now. And did anything happen to the light after Brother went inside?
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  33. Post #1713
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    November 2009
    512 Posts
    A very predictable and unsatisfying episode I gotta say, a poor follow-up from last week's episode.

    The explanation of the light seriously made me cringe. Hoping next week will pick things back up again.
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  34. Post #1714
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    Hello again, just finished season 5 :3:
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  35. Post #1715
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    May 2007
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    Also I don't freaking understand how Jacob's mom managed to drag MiB's body out of the well, fill the entire well with dirt, and then kill and burn an entire village to the ground.
        Well start thinking out of the box. What if Jacobs/MiBs "fake mom" had also previously walked into the glowing light thing, and was also a smokey? think about how she died... that dagger, and MiB did it without her saying a word which is exactly how your suppose to kill smokey.   
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  36. Post #1716
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    lol Jacob almost talked like Benjamin Linus for a second.
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  37. Post #1717
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    November 2007
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    So Jacob's brother is Justin Bieber. No wonder he's the way he is.
    Haha, exactly my thoughts when I saw him.
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  38. Post #1718
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    Well, don't take me wrong it was okay episode, but when I heard it was going to be Jacob centric I was expecting one of the best episodes of the show. This one made even more questions and put elements in the story that just seem unnecessary. It's just my opinion though.

    So if I got it right... Man in black    isn't Jacob's brother, just took his appearance like he did throughout the show. And he can't hurt/kill him because the brothers had this bond and it could transfer onto smokey.   

    Also my main problem is that Jacob knew jack... I hoped he would show some of his future knowledge.
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  39. Post #1719
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    October 2008
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    I also think that woman was the smoke monster, but it was too late for her when the now MIB killed her before she spoke. Okay, confusing episode, I can't dwell it on alot. It was good and bad(more questions), I give it 9.
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  40. Post #1720
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    May 2006
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    I think that this is how it goes:
    Jacob drank that "wine" and became the one to protect the light. That's why he didn't get old, JUST like his mother. His mother is the same for 30 years, don't you think. And when MiB kills her, she says:"Thank you" Probably because she was there on that island for a LOOOOOOONG time. And she couldn't kill herself.
    Now Jacob replaced her, so he also doesn't get old. MiB is a smoke monster and that's why he can't get old, because he's controlling MiB's body. That's why they are the same for centuries.
    But Richard also drank that wine and he also didn't get old for a long time. So I guess he replaced him, when Jacob died. Richard doesn't really have a "thing" to do, except to protect that light, which he doesn't even know about it.

    Holy shit, I think I'm actually right about this. Anyone agrees?
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