1. Post #1
    Bingybob's Avatar
    September 2009
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    Hello everyone... basically I got windows 7 a couple of months ago and I'm extremely tired of it.
    Windows just releases crap after crap after crap, and windows 7 is what vista set out to be.
    Anyways.
    I'm looking for an OS that can run almost any game, software etc. just like windows can without any 3rd party help. I've tried linux(ubuntu) but you have to install 3rd party programs to get other programs to run which is a real hassle anyone know a good OS for me.
    I mostly game, but I also code, and do projects on my computer.

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    lol
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  3. Post #3
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    OK, let me explain this to you. Windows runs Windows stuff. Mac and Linux are not Windows. Therefore, you need third party things to run Windows on Linux or Mac. Computers do NOT run on magic. Now taking questions.

    Anyway, if Windows DOES everything you need it to do, (IE, game and code and all that) why do you need another OS?
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  4. Post #4
    Bingybob's Avatar
    September 2009
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    Marlwolf... really now? Thats amazing..
    There are OS's that can do this without third party programs.
    I'm just worried that wine can lower my cpu.
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  5. Post #5
    Wyzard's Avatar
    June 2008
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    Windows is the best OS for running programs that are written for Windows (e.g. most games). Anything else (ReactOS, WINE, etc.) is based on reverse-engineering and perpetually playing catch-up to Microsoft as far as features and compatibility.

    You don't have to run only Windows, though. You could dual-boot Ubuntu, or run it in a virtual machine (e.g. VMware) to learn more about it. ("Have to install third-party programs to get other programs to run" sounds like you're talking about WINE, but you shouldn't judge Ubuntu by its ability to run Windows software, any more than you should judge Windows by its ability to run Ubuntu's software.)
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    Marlwolf... really now? Thats amazing..
    May I ask why you dislike 7 so much?
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    How is wine anymore of a 3rd party app than anything else that runs on Linux?
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  8. Post #8
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    You really don't specify what you want. What is wrong with Windows 7, and why is it crap? It does seem to do what you want it to. And, if you really want it to work on Linux, take the time to learn the ropes for something like Wine.

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  9. Post #9
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    oh jesus shit

    get to the bunker
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  10. Post #10
    Wyzard's Avatar
    June 2008
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    There are OS's that can do this without third party programs.
    I assume you mean ReactOS? Yes, that's a clone of Windows. WINE is also essentially a clone of Windows; the difference is that it runs as a program within another OS rather than talking directly to hardware, because that makes it much simpler to develop.
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  11. Post #11
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    September 2009
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    Windows 7... have compatibility issues everywhere.
    Running as administrator, changing desktop composition, etc is a real hassle.
    Having games crash because of desktop composition is not fun either.
    Windows 7 has a lot of problems, and is not a very powerful OS.
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  12. Post #12
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    August 2008
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    I'm just worried that wine can lower my cpu.
    I'm sorry, what?

    Windows 7... have compatibility issues everywhere.
    Running as administrator, changing desktop composition, etc is a real hassle.
    Having games crash because of desktop composition is not fun either.
    Windows 7 has a lot of problems, and is not a very powerful OS.
    First of all, you're not making any sense. Your grammar is god awful for one thing. Second, have you actually TRIED Windows 7? It has almost NONE of those problems.
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    I assume you mean ReactOS? Yes, that's a clone of Windows. WINE is also essentially a clone of Windows; the difference is that it runs as a program within another OS rather than talking directly to hardware, because that makes it much simpler to develop.
    ReactOS isn't even close to usable yet. You're much better off running Linux with wine than using ReactOS. I haven't tried the last few releases, but AFAIK, most things (e.g. sound) don't work.
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  14. Post #14
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    September 2009
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    Cpu processing speeds....
    It also probably does not support multi core processing very well.
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  15. Post #15
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    1. Windows 7... have compatibility issues everywhere.
    2. Running as administrator,
    3. changing desktop composition,
    4. etc is a real hassle.
    5. Having games crash because of desktop composition is not fun either.
    6. Windows 7 has a lot of problems, and is not a very powerful OS.
    1. Elabortate
    2. Right click. It isn't hard.
    3. Personalization > Windows 7 Basic
    4.
    5. Composition's disabled on fullscreen games. Also what games and how do you know it's DWM?
    6. Contradicted yourself. It's the only OS that can apparently do what you want it to without "3rd party" software.
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  16. Post #16
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    September 2009
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    Looks like windows is the best right now..... unfortunately
    If only Sun kept going with their brilliant OS.
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    Looks like windows is the best right now..... unfortunatly
    If only Sun kept going with their brilliant OS.
    Solaris? They still make it.
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    Beta
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  19. Post #19
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    June 2008
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    Solaris? They still make it.
    And other than through WINE, it doesn't run Windows games either.
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    Are you talking about OpenSolaris or something?
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  21. Post #21
    Bingybob's Avatar
    September 2009
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    1. Elabortate
    2. Right click. It isn't hard.
    3. Personalization > Windows 7 Basic
    4.
    5. Composition's disabled on fullscreen games. Also what games and how do you know it's DWM?
    6. Contradicted yourself. It's the only OS that can apparently do what you want it to without "3rd party" software.
    2. Why would I even need to if I'm already an administrator.
    3. Doesn't look as good. I don't see why looks should affect other processes in a OS in a fast pc.
    4.
    5. No. Its not you can look on the options for compatability you have to do it yourself.
    6. So what its still not powerful(fast)

    Edited:

    OpenSolaris is still... not so compatible.
    Its great but I can't run much.
    If Sun fixes these problems I'd love it.
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  22. Post #22
    Wyzard's Avatar
    June 2008
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    Why would I even need to if I'm already an administrator.
    Because users having administrative privileges all the time has been a big source of security problems in past versions of Windows. If you didn't have to specifically tell Windows when you want to act as administrator, malware running on your computer would be able to install things like rootkits with impunity.

    OpenSolaris is still... not so compatible.
    Its great but I can't run much.
    If Sun fixes these problems I'd love it.
    OpenSolaris is not even intended to be able to run Windows games. It has plenty of software of its own that runs great, largely server-type stuff.
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  23. Post #23
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    2. Why would I even need to if I'm already an administrator.
    3. Doesn't look as good. I don't see why looks should affect other processes in a OS in a fast pc.
    4.
    5. No. Its not you can look on the options for compatability you have to do it yourself.
    6. So what its still not powerful(fast)
    1.) Didn't answer 1.
    2.) You said you had problems with an administrator, now you don't?
    3.) The looks affect the processes for EVERY pc. Mac, Linux, Windows, all of them.
    4.) what
    5.) also what
    6.) It's very fast. Can we see some PC specs?
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  24. Post #24
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    2. Why would I even need to if I'm already an administrator.
    3. Doesn't look as good. I don't see why looks should affect other processes in a OS in a fast pc.
    4.
    5. No. Its not you can look on the options for compatability you have to do it yourself.
    6. So what its still not powerful(fast)

    Edited:

    OpenSolaris is still... not so compatible.
    Its great but I can't run much.
    If Sun fixes these problems I'd love it.
    2. You have to in Linux too. It's called security. You don't want to run as admin and have malware just install itself silently with admin privileges do you? That's the whole point of having UAC.
    3. It doesn't. (Directly)
    4.
    5. Yes it does. That option is there strictly if a program doesn't cause DWM to shut down itself.
    6. When you bloat it up yes. Else, 7 is pretty damn fast.
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  25. Post #25
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    1.) Answer and ask questions in list form
    2.) ?????
    3.) PROFIT!
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  26. Post #26
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    hey so like....









    can you guys get out of the programming section?
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  27. Post #27
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    Love to. Can a mod move the thread somewhere?

    Sorry to pop in unannounced.
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  28. Post #28
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    1.) Answer and ask questions in list form
    2.) ?????
    3.) PROFIT!
    Well I had to break that horrible string of words apart to even understand what the hell we was talking about. It seemed to continue in that order.
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  29. Post #29
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    August 2008
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    Is the OP even reading this anymore? And have we gotten any closer to a conclusion?

    Edit: Probably not.
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  30. Post #30
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    tl;dr op is an idiot and needs to go use windows
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  31. Post #31
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    get your immature OS wars out of programming faggots.

    Edited:

    windows ftw

    Edited:

    linux ftw
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    get your immature OS wars out of programming faggots.

    Edited:

    windows ftw

    Edited:

    linux ftw
    We didn't choose to put it here. So shh.
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  33. Post #33
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    July 2005
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    2. Why would I even need to if I'm already an administrator.
    3. Doesn't look as good. I don't see why looks should affect other processes in a OS in a fast pc.
    4.
    5. No. Its not you can look on the options for compatability you have to do it yourself.
    6. So what its still not powerful(fast)

    Edited:

    OpenSolaris is still... not so compatible.
    Its great but I can't run much.
    If Sun fixes these problems I'd love it.
    I dont think youre quite grasping this.

    Nothing but windows will every nativly run windows apps properly. ReactOS is as close as you will get, but prepare to be dissapointed. Wine on *nix will get most games working, at the cost of speed.
    Stick with XP / Vista / 7.
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  34. Post #34
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    If you really dislike the security of Windows 7 or Vista, you could either disable those services, or if you're too dense to figure that out, go with XP. It's still a great OS, in spite of its age.
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  35. Post #35
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    You need to install other programs to get primary programs to run? Sounds like you are doing it wrong. "3rd party" and "1st party" doesn't really mean anything in the open-source community.
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  36. Post #36
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    Is the op fucking serious?
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  37. Post #37
    I survived Camp FP 2010
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    It's a troll, just fucking ignore him.
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  38. Post #38
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    2. Why would I even need to if I'm already an administrator.
    You don't need to if you don't want to. Just disable UAC. You'll lose security, but no more nags about anything. I disabled it right after I installed Vista, but I'm not the type of people that gets viruses anyway. I heard they made UAC less of an ass on Windows 7 though, have to re-evaluate it when I get it.

    Btw, what is this thread doing in the programming section anyway?
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    we didn't start the fiii--iiirrree
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  40. Post #40
    wait.. using [color] tags counts towards characters used? fuck. I have like 4 spa
    LasGunz's Avatar
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    Is this guy trolling?
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