1. Post #201
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    Pat.Lithium's Avatar
    November 2009
    7,623 Posts
    I'm glad shen's ult got nerfed. Nothing was worse than the fact that after level 6 shen didn't have to leave his lane/jungle to gank lanes because when he needed to he could pop up anywhere on the map. TF and Pantheon used to be able to do this as well but you know why shen didn't get nerfed at the same time? Because it was before he got buffed.

    Also new item:
    80 Ability Power
    40 Magic Resist
    15% Cooldown Reduction
    15 Mana Regen/5

    Passive - returns 12% of max mana on champ kills & assists
    Unique Passive - increases your mana regen by 1% per 1% mana you are missing.

    Stackable passive.
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  2. Post #202
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    Phir3's Avatar
    June 2008
    3,560 Posts
    Oh god that talon rake buff.
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  3. Post #203
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    Zero_X54321's Avatar
    October 2010
    2,738 Posts
    I'm glad shen's ult got nerfed. Nothing was worse than the fact that after level 6 shen didn't have to leave his lane/jungle to gank lanes because when he needed to he could pop up anywhere on the map. TF and Pantheon used to be able to do this as well but you know why shen didn't get nerfed at the same time? Because it was before he got buffed.

    Also new item:
    80 Ability Power
    40 Magic Resist
    15% Cooldown Reduction
    15 Mana Regen/5

    Passive - returns 12% of max mana on champ kills & assists
    Unique Passive - increases your mana regen by 1% per 1% mana you are missing.

    Stackable passive.
    new build for EVERYONE WITH AN AP RATIO:

    Sorc shoes
    Rabadon's
    2 of those things up there ^
    2 AA

    oh what's that? tons of damage turns into a quarter of my mana coming back? I get AP for mana and Manana for Abilities?

    Sounds LEGIT TO ME
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  4. Post #204
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    Pat.Lithium's Avatar
    November 2009
    7,623 Posts
    Also what the fuck is with the random Ryze buffs thrown in there?
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  5. Post #205
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    acfan's Avatar
    June 2010
    4,383 Posts

    wota changes
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  6. Post #206
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    Prism's Avatar
    July 2008
    4,596 Posts
    Also what the fuck is with the random Ryze buffs thrown in there?
    Buffs? The fuck?
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  7. Post #207
    ashxu's Avatar
    February 2009
    22,620 Posts
    Did they seriously make Shen's ult non-global.

    Seriously.

    SERIOUSLY.
    Making it non global is a good thing. Why should Shen get separate treatment from the other global ults? I remember HotshotGG played Shen in IEM and all he did was afk push and when his team wanted to fight he just ulted in and made it a 5v4 (Since the enemy had to send someone to stop Shen from pushing)
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  8. Post #208
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    Zero_X54321's Avatar
    October 2010
    2,738 Posts

    wota changes
    rated dumb because FUCK THAT CHANGE
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  9. Post #209
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    Prism's Avatar
    July 2008
    4,596 Posts
    Passive bonus mana per level of skill (75/150/225) removed.
    Changed from 40/65/90/115/140 (+0.2) plus 7.5 % of his max mana in magic damage to 60/85/110/135/160 (+0.4) plus 6.5 % of his max mana in magic damage.
    Range reduced from 675 to 650.
    Snare reduced from 1/1.3/1.5/1.8/2 seconds to 0.8/1/1.3/1.5/1.8seconds.
    Plus max mana % in damage reduced from 5% max mana to 4.5% max mana.
    yeah huge ryze buffs

    Edited:

    they tried to cover it up by buffing spell fux
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  10. Post #210
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    DTkach's Avatar
    August 2006
    5,953 Posts
    Making it non global is a good thing. Why should Shen get separate treatment from the other global ults? I remember HotshotGG played Shen in IEM and all he did was afk push and when his team wanted to fight he just ulted in and made it a 5v4 (Since the enemy had to send someone to stop Shen from pushing)
    Except now its completely useless for most of early game. Its bad enough that Shen needed to pay attention to all other lanes to be able to help, but now he has to get within range to be any bit useful.
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  11. Post #211
    wtf am i reading
    Blueplastic's Avatar
    June 2010
    15,873 Posts
    Haha shen ult got nerfed
    ha
    ha
    hahaha
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  12. Post #212
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    October 2010
    2,738 Posts
    Fratma's or FratMogs?
    no one replied... I still don't know what to put in her Recommended Items.
    So far I've got Merc Treads BT
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  13. Post #213
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    Pat.Lithium's Avatar
    November 2009
    7,623 Posts
    Honestly how often does a shen even use his ultimate when it isn't coordinated? If a team mate gets ambushed the odds of shen saving them were very low.

    Edited:

    no one replied... I still don't know what to put in her Recommended Items.
    So far I've got Merc Treads BT
    For soloq really all you need is mercs BT BT BT GA LS.
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  14. Post #214
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    June 2009
    8,467 Posts
    TF and Pantheon used to be able to do this as well but you know why shen didn't get nerfed at the same time? Because it was before he got buffed.
    The difference is that TF and Pantheon are capable of a lot of burst damage and can use their abilities to just chop away at someone's health like nothing. Shen is a tank and relies on taunting and taking all the hits for his teammates.

    As long as the attackers of whoever Shen is ulting aren't complete retards, it's almost always used for either teleportation or purely defensive purposes. And that's what a tank needs, to be defensive and to be mobile.
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  15. Post #215
    I randomly change my avatar every week or so
    Chilblain's Avatar
    September 2010
    5,220 Posts
    no one replied... I still don't know what to put in her Recommended Items.
    So far I've got Merc Treads BT
    Some good choices are Wriggle's (for hard lanes), LW, Guardian Angel, Bloodthirster, Atmer's and wermerg's
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  16. Post #216
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    June 2010
    2,719 Posts
    Guess I'm building chalice on Veigar again.
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  17. Post #217
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    June 2009
    8,467 Posts
    Is Varus not in the PBE? I thought he was.
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  18. Post #218
    Mains sexually confused champions in LoL.
    eXperion's Avatar
    June 2006
    1,267 Posts
    no one replied... I still don't know what to put in her Recommended Items.
    So far I've got Merc Treads BT
    Merc/Tabi > BT > GA > BT / LS > MAW if fed/double AP or Aegis > BT / LS (one you didn't take earlier).

    Atmogs is only for late-game on Riven, tbh.
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  19. Post #219
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    acfan's Avatar
    June 2010
    4,383 Posts
    Is Varus not in the PBE? I thought he was.
    he's free to play
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  20. Post #220
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    Prism's Avatar
    July 2008
    4,596 Posts
    Next thing you know they'll nerf karthus' ult so it hits people in an aoe around him
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  21. Post #221
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    January 2010
    2,368 Posts
    The difference is that TF and Pantheon are capable of a lot of burst damage and can use their abilities to just chop away at someone's health like nothing. Shen is a tank and relies on taunting and taking all the hits for his teammates.

    As long as the attackers of whoever Shen is ulting aren't complete retards, it's almost always used for either teleportation or purely defensive purposes. And that's what a tank needs, to be defensive and to be mobile.
    They're different but the problem remains the same. Split pushing is far too strong (And way too fucking lame) a strategy and it shouldn't be something that's encouraged to be done by introducing characters that have such powerful effect to a team fight directly and indirectly as a result.

    A team with Shen is almost a guaranteed victory in many cases since, as described, Shen can split-push a lane for free and if the enemy team initiates on his, then not only is he still in the fight, he's in the fight with a 1,000HP shield to the AD Carry. If they don't initiate, then somebody is stuck having to go deal with Shen, who, as he is now, can surprisingly deal with most people in the game solo simply as a result of his ridiculous sustain and damage absorption. Meaning they still don't get anywhere.

    Edited:

    Basically what I'm saying is you always lose no matter choice you make.
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  22. Post #222
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    June 2009
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    wow they limited custom games to 2 players?

    i just wanted to try out varus without having to worry about everyone else grabbing him, or people leaving because they didn't click varus first
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  23. Post #223
    Murr purr and stuff!
    Nintendo-Guy's Avatar
    November 2007
    35,456 Posts
    shen ult nerf makes me very happy

    Edited:

    wow they limited custom games to 2 players?

    i just wanted to try out varus without having to worry about everyone else grabbing him, or people leaving because they didn't click varus first
    people's been using bots that automatically levels up smurf accounts through custom games so they kinda had to
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  24. Post #224
    Exploits's Avatar
    January 2010
    2,368 Posts
    Also what the fuck is with the random Ryze buffs thrown in there?
    Those are nerfs/a rework/something. They're moving away from the build mana = kill shit meta with Ryze and making AP have an actual, tangible effect to his gameplay.
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  25. Post #225
    wtf am i reading
    Blueplastic's Avatar
    June 2010
    15,873 Posts
    Next thing you know they'll nerf karthus' ult so it hits people in an aoe around him
    That could actually happen lol
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  26. Post #226
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    acfan's Avatar
    June 2010
    4,383 Posts
    More things in PBE.

    Skin names in loading screen.


    Limits on rune buying.
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  27. Post #227
    wtf am i reading
    Blueplastic's Avatar
    June 2010
    15,873 Posts
    Haunting guise now gives 8% movement speed. Same cost and everything.
    Oh god, singed (and vlad)

    Edited:

    Wota's recipe is now revolver + blasting wand
    me likey
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  28. Post #228
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    June 2009
    8,467 Posts
    people's been using bots that automatically levels up smurf accounts through custom games so they kinda had to
    Can't they just make it so that you can't get XP without at least 2 people?
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  29. Post #229
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  30. Post #230
    Leona MR scaling finally

    Edited:

    Oh man Galio with AUG

    yes
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  31. Post #231
    Thank God. Nerfing his ult to be non-global would ruin the entire concept and purpose of Shen.
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  32. Post #232
    Dryne's Avatar
    October 2008
    201 Posts
    Where can people play Varus? I want to try him too...
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  33. Post #233
    ashxu's Avatar
    February 2009
    22,620 Posts
    Public Beta Enviroment
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  34. Post #234
    Lazyboy0337's Avatar
    October 2010
    3,741 Posts
    Amumu with MR scaling and ult cooldown reduction is now a happy mummy.
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  35. Post #235
    Repulsion's Avatar
    May 2010
    1,963 Posts
    I usually roll boots/pots with Veigar, and if I have a good laning phase I skip the Doran's Ring and immediately start building DFG.

    I can see that a Doran's ring on Veigar would be useful, though, for getting a good early game. I'll probably use it if I know I'm up against someone who is pretty good/I'm not sure about myself.
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  36. Post #236
    Dennab
    January 2012
    953 Posts
    Thank God. Nerfing his ult to be non-global would ruin the entire concept and purpose of Shen.
    I could still see a small nerf, like they did with Pantheon and others. Isn't Shen and Karthus the only champs left that can still globally do something because they didn't have their range nerfed?
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  37. Post #237
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    April 2010
    1,912 Posts
    I could still see a small nerf, like they did with Pantheon and others. Isn't Shen and Karthus the only champs left that can still globally do something because they didn't have their range nerfed?
    Gangplank.
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  38. Post #238
    Dennab
    January 2012
    953 Posts
    Gangplank.
    Wasn't exactly sure on that. Thought he had his range nerfed.
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  39. Post #239
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    July 2007
    8,680 Posts
    As if Leona didn't already have crazy MR with her shield on. I'm gonna have to start using her more often now. Woot.

    Also, wtf ww nerf :(
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  40. Post #240
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    October 2008
    201 Posts
    Wich skin should I get for Lee?
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