1. Post #1
    MBB

    February 2012
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    Republicans know more than Democrats, says study. At least GOPers do when it comes to politics, according to survey results released earlier this month by the Pew Research Center. As the report notes:
    Republicans fare substantially better than Democrats on several questions in the survey, as is typically the case in surveys about political knowledge. The largest gaps are in awareness of which party is more supportive of reducing the size and scope of the federal government (30 points) and which party is more conservative (28 points).
    Republicans also are 21 percentage points more likely than Democrats to know that the GOP is more supportive of drilling for oil in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.
    There is only one policy question – which party is more supportive of cutting defense spending – on which Democrats are more knowledgeable than Republicans. Two-thirds of Democrats (67%) identify the Democratic Party as being more supportive of reducing the size of the defense budget, compared with 59% of Republicans.
    Delving further into the report, the survey reports that men do better on every question than do women. The Daily Caller also reports:
    "The Pew survey adds to a wave of surveys and studies showing that GOP-sympathizers are better informed, more intellectually consistent, more open-minded, more empathetic and more receptive to criticism than their fellow Americans who support the Democratic Party."
    Source
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    The Pew survey adds to a wave of surveys and studies showing that GOP-sympathizers are better informed, more intellectually consistent, more open-minded, more empathetic and more receptive to criticism than their fellow Americans who support the Democratic Party.
    My sides.
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    Republicans Know More About Politics Than Democrats, Says Study
    Now let's watch the flood of people who disregard this study because it doesn't fit their viewpoint...
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    The Pew survey adds to a wave of surveys and studies showing that GOP-sympathizers are better informed, more intellectually consistent, more open-minded, more empathetic and more receptive to criticism than their fellow Americans who support the Democratic Party
    I'm really glad that I wasn't drinking something when I read that.
    I suppose that the average Republican American might be like that, but their representatives up on Capital Hill are horribly off base then.
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    source:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reason_magazine

    I'm sure that's reliable.
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  6. Post #6
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    It's not their study, it's from the Pew Research Center. This is just an article about the study.
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    Now let's watch the flood of people who disregard this study because it doesn't fit their viewpoint...
    I won't argue all of it, but more open minded? More empathetic? These are the people who want to shape government after their own views at the cost of other people's rights.
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    Also, how the fuck can people who don't know some of these things even call themselves a democrat or republican? Seriously, there were people who were polled that didn't know the republicans are a more conservative party? That makes me seriously question the validity of this poll.
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    "The Pew survey adds to a wave of surveys and studies showing that GOP-sympathizers are better informed, more intellectually consistent, more open-minded, more empathetic and more receptive to criticism than their fellow Americans who support the Democratic Party."
    I guess that's true if you don't bring up: fighting for oil, rights, abortions, stem cells, gay marriage, moving forward with technology and middle eastern countries.
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    It's not their study, it's from the Pew Research Center. This is just an article about the study.
    And the article is garbage.
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    My sides.
    clearly your prejudiced ideas of the opposing party to yours supports this statement, as you aren't very receptive to compared criticism regarding your party
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    I won't argue all of it, but more open minded? More empathetic? These are the people who want to shape government after their own views at the cost of other people's rights.
    That's some excerpt from the Daily Caller, I don't know how the Pew Research Center study has anything to do with that. I couldn't find a direct from the source report so Reason Magazine was the best I could get.
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    more open-minded, more empathetic and more receptive to criticism than their fellow Americans who support the Democratic Party."
    I'm not surprised to hear this. I've seen other studies in which liberals tend to be more "stubborn" than conservatives in their beliefs.

    I've seen it in person, too.
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    This doesn't mean that they are going to use their knowledge for any good.
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    In this thread: Democrats reject this as bullshit, conservatives point out that the article predicted such a claim
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    clearly your prejudiced ideas of the opposing party to yours supports this statement, as you aren't very receptive to compared criticism regarding your party
    Who the hell thinks GOP supporters are open minded? Do GOP supporters even think they're open minded?
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    In this thread: Democrats reject this as bullshit, conservatives point out that the article predicted such a claim
    Who the hell thinks GOP supporters are open minded? Do GOP supporters even think they're open minded?

    Example duly noted.
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    ITT: People act like if this was on the other side on a right winged website it would not get the same response.
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    oh just fucking close this piece of shit thread.
    go read the actual Pew center study results, it shows on average that republicans get 12 questions correct, democrats get 11, and independents get 10.

    http://www.people-press.org/2012/04/...tical-parties/

    the idea of:
    GOP-sympathizers are better informed, more intellectually consistent, more open-minded, more empathetic and more receptive to criticism than their fellow Americans who support the Democratic Party.
    is stupid and unacceptable as a center piece for a thread, not to mention it has nothing to do with the actual study.

    Now let's watch the flood of people who disregard this study because it doesn't fit their viewpoint...
    oh yes god-forbid anyone calls out this article on its stupidity.
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    oh just fucking close this piece of shit thread.
    go read the actual Pew center study results, it shows on average that republicans get 12 questions correct, democrats get 11, and independents get 10.

    http://www.people-press.org/2012/04/...tical-parties/

    the idea of:


    is stupid and unacceptable as a center piece for a thread, not to mention it has nothing to do with the actual study.



    oh yes god-forbid anyone calls out this article on its stupidity.
    Despite the rhetoric - Republicans still scored higher
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    I took a look at the study, it means exactly what it says, politics. Most democrats are marginally less informed than republicans, on political questions that have very little relevance.

    I like the study, and it's an interesting read, but it just reaffirms my previous belief that republicans vote against their own interests, and democrats are weak and don't care about the issues as much.
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    The largest gaps are in awareness of which party is more supportive of reducing the size and scope of the federal government (30 points) and which party is more conservative (28 points).
    Only 71% (90% Republicans and 62% Democrats) of people apparently know the Republican party is more conservative. That seems pretty incredible. How can you even consider yourself part of either party if you can't say which is more conservative? (since this is understanding of members of either party)

    They also cite things like knowing the parties of candidates in history, but my understanding is that the parties of today share little resemblance to the parties of the same name in the past, so it's sort of a fundamentally confused question.

    There is only one policy question – which party is more supportive of cutting defense spending – on which Democrats are more knowledgeable than Republicans.
    According to the results, this is false. They seem to know more on illegal immigration, taxes, and a few other things.

    Additionally, the total results were:
    Republicans: 12.6 questions correct
    Democrats: 11.4 questions correct

    As per the specific and historic individual questions I mentioned, there's probably a large bias in this study in favor of the republicans who answered questions regarding two such candidates correctly far more often.
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    Great, but they're still assholes.
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    So your telling me, people that believe in death penalties, anti abortion, subtle racism, Jesus and lower taxes at the expense of dying people; are more intelligent about politics than I am?
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  25. Post #25
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    Despite the rhetoric - Republicans still scored higher
    by one question in a study with an affirmed margin of error.
    without rhetoric there really wouldn't be anything to say.
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    Only 71% (90% Republicans and 62% Democrats) of people apparently know the Republican party is more conservative. That seems pretty incredible. How can you even consider yourself part of either party if you can't say which is more conservative? (since this is understanding of members of either party)
    (Thy Reaper)

    Well, there are quite a few conservative democrats and blue-dogs. Unlike the republicans, the democrats are pretty mixed with moderates, conservatives and liberals, obviously more liberal than conservative.

    It's not really the right question IMO.
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    Well, there are quite a few conservative democrats and blue-dogs. Unlike the republicans, the democrats are pretty mixed with moderates, conservatives and liberals, obviously more liberal than conservative.

    It's not really the right question IMO.
    That's true. I remember reading a large-scale study of people's political views, and democrats had a much bigger spread of ideals compared to republicans.

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    This makes sense. And this is why it makes sense:

    Two Three (I can't count) things that are consistently reliable about elderly folks: They are conservatives, they vote, and they care about politics enough to know about it and be informed. Young folk, generally liberals, are less inclined to be as informed about politics as they are ideology/political philosophy- something that conservatives aren't nearly as informed in.

    Basically, conservatives are older and involved in the system, with less focus on other political views and more focus on the actual political process- they know the workings. Liberals are younger and less interested in the system, and more interested in ideology/political philosophy.

    I don't agree at all with their conclusions, though. Regardless, there's no excuse for political ignorance.
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    I'm not surprised to hear this. I've seen other studies in which liberals tend to be more "stubborn" than conservatives in their beliefs.

    I've seen it in person, too.
    See, I've seen studies saying the exact opposite, and from experience, the opposite is true.
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    So your telling me, people that believe in death penalties, anti abortion, subtle racism, Jesus and lower taxes at the expense of dying people; are more intelligent about politics than I am?
    the world is retarded

    Edited:

    See, I've seen studies saying the exact opposite, and from experience, the opposite is true.
    the only reason liberals are "stubborn" in their beliefs is because most liberal ideologies are objectively better than republican ones
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    I took their quiz.



    i'm just a dumb gay libtard though so this quiz is obviously liberally-biased.
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    the only reason liberals are "stubborn" in their beliefs is because most liberal ideologies are objectively better than republican ones
    Oh god are you serious?

    Implying there's objectivity in politics.
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    -snip-

    Edited:

    Oh god are you serious?

    Implying there's objectivity in politics.
    you'd have to be pretty retarded to not see how some things are objectively better than others
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    And, as any good sociologist or surveyor will tell, you can very easily coach a study towards a result based simply on how you word it, conduct it, everything.
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    There was a study done several months ago that showed Fox News viewers are more ill-informed than people who don't watch the news at all so these pitiful surveys taken of 100 people mean fuck all even if they support my ideology.
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    neeeeerrrrdddd

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    clearly your prejudiced ideas of the opposing party to yours supports this statement, as you aren't very receptive to compared criticism regarding your party
    his comment was perfectly justified, it wasn't even part of the study, it was just the article throwing in their own biased interpretation of the results

    where in the study does it indicate any of this:

    The Pew survey adds to a wave of surveys and studies showing that GOP-sympathizers are better informed, more intellectually consistent, more open-minded, more empathetic and more receptive to criticism than their fellow Americans who support the Democratic Party.
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    -snip-

    Edited:



    you'd have to be pretty retarded to not see how some things are objectively better than others
    Guy, that's like saying "My subjective opinions are obviously more objective than yours."

    Obviously there are some things which are objective, like killing people doesn't cause overpopulation and rape doesn't make people happy unless you're a rapist. But that doesn't exist in politics- it pretty much doesn't exist in ideology/political philosophy.

    Unless you can actually back something up that clearly has no viable alternative (good luck), then there isn't anything 'objective' about politics at all.
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    I won't argue all of it, but more open minded? More empathetic? These are the people who want to shape government after their own views at the cost of other people's rights.
    It's heavily dependent on the individual. I've met quite a few close minded people on both sides of the aisle.
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    It wouldn't surprise me for this to be generally true. You have to be damn good at politics to gain so many supporters for some of their crazy ideas.
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