1. Post #321
    Gold Member
    hypno-toad's Avatar
    October 2006
    14,794 Posts
    pretty much sounds like what it is now anyways
    Not really. In new vegas if you are under the speech requirement you flat out can't do anything.. there's no point in even clicking the "dumb dialogue" because the chances are it'll just do something worse than the non speech check dialogue.

    The one I posted above would be somewhere between the two systems... IE: If you are over the speech skill requirement you indefinitely succeed. If you are under the speech requirement you can make a feign attempt, but might just end up spewing verbal diarrhea if you fail. (the line will change to something far more dumb than what was initially shown)

    I think it'd just be pretty funny to see some elegant sentence, and if you take a chance and fail, a much more hilarious sentence pops up and offends the person.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 Canada Show Events Agree Agree x 5 (list)

  2. Post #322
    Splendor's Avatar
    December 2010
    284 Posts
    Yes, it's bad writing. It's not horrible, it's not objectively bad, it's boring and bland and unbelievable to a lot of people, but it's also in the cheesy vein of things in the fallout world, completely unbelievable and ridiculous, but it happens anyways.
    The first and second Fallout games have good, believable dialogue coming out the ass, despite being in a somewhat unbelievable and pulpy setting. This is like arguing that the script of Batman & Robin is comparable to The Dark Knight because they're both set in a campy, unbelievable setting.

    seriously what the fuck? Plus it's meant to be simplified so anyone can understand it, no ones going to write tons and tons of lines that are extremely coherent and artistic. I'm sorry but, what you're saying is just retarded and far fetched.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 Sweden Show Events Winner Winner x 6Dumb Dumb x 5Agree Agree x 2 (list)

  3. Post #323
    Not really. In new vegas if you are under the speech requirement you flat out can't do anything.. there's no point in even clicking the "dumb dialogue" because the chances are it'll just do something worse than the non speech check dialogue.

    The one I posted above would be somewhere between the two systems... IE: If you are over the speech skill requirement you indefinitely succeed. If you are under the speech requirement you can make a feign attempt, but might just end up spewing verbal diarrhea if you fail. (the line will change to something far more dumb than what was initially shown)

    I think it'd just be pretty funny to see some elegant sentence, and if you take a chance and fail, a much more hilarious sentence pops up and offends the person.
    "Speech 70:Yo cutey, want a drink? It's on me! Anything you want babe, just ask, I'm the man"

    speech is actually 5 "Nice tits"

    Edited:

    Not really. In new vegas if you are under the speech requirement you flat out can't do anything.. there's no point in even clicking the "dumb dialogue" because the chances are it'll just do something worse than the non speech check dialogue.

    The one I posted above would be somewhere between the two systems... IE: If you are over the speech skill requirement you indefinitely succeed. If you are under the speech requirement you can make a feign attempt, but might just end up spewing verbal diarrhea if you fail. (the line will change to something far more dumb than what was initially shown)

    I think it'd just be pretty funny to see some elegant sentence, and if you take a chance and fail, a much more hilarious sentence pops up and offends the person.
    "Speech 70:Yo cutey, want a drink? It's on me! Anything you want babe, just ask, I'm the man"

    speech is actually 5 "Nice tits"
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 United States Show Events Dumb Dumb x 1 (list)

  4. Post #324
    quality poster
    Dennab
    August 2009
    12,242 Posts
    The first and second Fallout games have good, believable dialogue coming out the ass, despite being in a somewhat unbelievable and pulpy setting. This is like arguing that the script of Batman & Robin is comparable to The Dark Knight because they're both set in a campy, unbelievable setting.
    so what is your point? that you think the writing is bad? because we already know that you think the writing is bad so you can stop now nobody cares
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 United States Show Events Agree Agree x 8Dumb Dumb x 1 (list)

  5. Post #325
    Gold Member
    KorJax's Avatar
    January 2007
    11,828 Posts
    I really don't like the Fallout franchise compared to elderscrolls, but I'd me more interested in Fallout 4 just to see if their programmers and lead designers learned how to use an engine newer than 2002 yet. If it seems like a complete overhaul of Fallout 3, then I'm game. Even though I couldn't get into F3 for more than 40-50 hours just because I really couldn't get into the setting at all.

  6. Post #326
    Nah, doesn't look like fallout at all, in my opinion.
    The character would be wearing at least something, and there'd be a bit of metal somewhere. That just looks like a cave.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows XP Argentina Show Events Disagree Disagree x 1 (list)

  7. Post #327
    Gold Member
    Mlisen14's Avatar
    September 2008
    3,899 Posts
    I would like an IP, I don't need a new Fallout every two years.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 Australia Show Events Disagree Disagree x 1 (list)

  8. Post #328
    tom1029's Avatar
    April 2010
    1,762 Posts
    Where are they getting the fact its a "Major" announcement. All I can see is they are going to say something tomorow. Really no idea what. (But I pray for Fallout 4).
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 United Kingdom Show Events Dumb Dumb x 1 (list)

  9. Post #329
    Gold Member
    TheBrokenHobo's Avatar
    August 2009
    15,328 Posts
    Fallout 3 is my all time favorite game. New Vegas is tied probably. I've put it a total of around 500 hours total in both, a little more in 3 than in New Vegas.

    I don't give a single fuck about any of the flaws, I had a better time playing those games than I had playing any other game, and that's what count to me.

    Skyrim didn't appeal to me as much as I thought it would, probably because I've never really been a fan of fantsy stuff.

    I'd be so immensely happy if the announcement was Fallout 4 and I'm still going to believe it is and disregard any evidence that it's not until the minute the announcement is made because that's what I do.


    I'd be pretty ok with it if it's Skyrim DLC though, I'd like something to get me back into it.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 United States Show Events Agree Agree x 3 (list)

  10. Post #330
    Rargh!
    Braaaaains's Avatar
    December 2009
    989 Posts


    (User was banned for this post ("Stupid page-stretching meme reply." - postal))
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows Vista United Kingdom Show Events Funny Funny x 46Dumb Dumb x 5Winner Winner x 1 (list)

  11. Post #331
    Gold Member
    HumanAbyss's Avatar
    March 2009
    18,123 Posts
    The first and second Fallout games have good, believable dialogue coming out the ass, despite being in a somewhat unbelievable and pulpy setting. This is like arguing that the script of Batman & Robin is comparable to The Dark Knight because they're both set in a campy, unbelievable setting.
    No it's not really like that. The tone of those batman films are different, they both don't fall into campy because the universe itself does, it's clear that there are non campy takes on campy things.

    Fallout 1&2 had dialogue that was all over the place through out all of the games, it was good but it had problems.

    The problem is that fallout 3 was in the same tone as the other ones, they tried to get that same tone as the first 2. The dialogue itself falls into the tone, but it's not as strong.

    Edited:

    Fallout 3 is my all time favorite game. New Vegas is tied probably. I've put it a total of around 500 hours total in both, a little more in 3 than in New Vegas.

    I don't give a single fuck about any of the flaws, I had a better time playing those games than I had playing any other game, and that's what count to me.

    Skyrim didn't appeal to me as much as I thought it would, probably because I've never really been a fan of fantsy stuff.

    I'd be so immensely happy if the announcement was Fallout 4 and I'm still going to believe it is and disregard any evidence that it's not until the minute the announcement is made because that's what I do.


    I'd be pretty ok with it if it's Skyrim DLC though, I'd like something to get me back into it.
    in splendors words, you're a moron.

    don't worry, you're not
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 Canada Show Events Agree Agree x 4Dumb Dumb x 1 (list)

  12. Post #332
    Gold Member
    hypno-toad's Avatar
    October 2006
    14,794 Posts
    "Speech 70:Yo cutey, want a drink? It's on me! Anything you want babe, just ask, I'm the man"

    speech is actually 5 "Nice tits"
    Yeah, I think it'd just be hilarious to see the dialouge change after you click it.

    [Speech 40/60 - 63%] "You are such an incredible woman, would you let me buy you a drink?"

    *click*

    [Speech Attempt Failed] " Can I fukc you?"
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 Canada Show Events Funny Funny x 15 (list)

  13. Post #333
    Gold Member
    Zeos's Avatar
    June 2006
    11,436 Posts
    I can't help but admit that while playing Skyrim, I kept going "This is fun and all, but a Fallout on this engine is getting me really excited."
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 Canada Show Events Agree Agree x 12 (list)

  14. Post #334
    Splendor's Avatar
    December 2010
    284 Posts
    The problem is that fallout 3 was in the same tone as the other ones, they tried to get that same tone as the first 2. The dialogue itself falls into the tone, but it's not as strong.
    I agree, and it seems that most of us will agree that Fallout 3 had at the very least, middling to mediocre writing if not outright shitty 10 times worse than the holocaust writing.

    Now if you're wondering why I've been pushing this point for so long, it is precisely because I want to hold it up in the light of FO1/2 and make you ask yourselves, is this really the direction Fallout should be going in?

    Should we throw away artistic integrity and excellence in writing (both characters and dialogue) in favor of black and white morality, mini nuke launchers, having blood and gore as interior decoration of your home and other things that deviate from the vision of Fallout?.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 Sweden Show Events Dumb Dumb x 14 (list)

  15. Post #335
    WE'VE GOT DODGSON HERE!
    -Steve-'s Avatar
    August 2005
    1,966 Posts
    That character in the picture looks an awful a lot like a Skyrim Imperial male.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 United States Show Events Agree Agree x 4 (list)

  16. Post #336
    Gold Member
    UnidentifiedFlyingTard's Avatar
    March 2009
    8,434 Posts
    I would like Fallout to go back to it's roots, but Bethesda doesn't care about us lowly Fallout fans, they care about their fans, it doesn't matter what direction they go in, there isn't shit we can do about it.

    Well unless no one buys Fallout 4, but that will never happen, Bethesda's name a lone generates sales.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows Vista United States Show Events Dumb Dumb x 4Agree Agree x 1 (list)

  17. Post #337
    I'M A SHAAARK!
    Lambeth's Avatar
    October 2009
    14,832 Posts
    does bethesda even have a writing team
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 Canada Show Events Dumb Dumb x 3Disagree Disagree x 1 (list)

  18. Post #338
    Gold Member
    Zezibesh's Avatar
    May 2008
    19,048 Posts
    "Speech 70:Yo cutey, want a drink? It's on me! Anything you want babe, just ask, I'm the man"

    speech is actually 5 "Nice tits"

    Edited:



    "Speech 70:Yo cutey, want a drink? It's on me! Anything you want babe, just ask, I'm the man"

    speech is actually 5 "Nice tits"
    The problem with this is that it'll just result in people savescumming like in fo3 with the percentile system.

  19. Post #339
    Gold Member
    UnidentifiedFlyingTard's Avatar
    March 2009
    8,434 Posts
    does bethesda even have a writing team
    They have a couple of monkeys they are renting from the zoo.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows Vista United States Show Events Dumb Dumb x 4Useful Useful x 1 (list)

  20. Post #340
    That character in the picture looks an awful a lot like a Skyrim Imperial male.
    still, he's just a generic male, and a male can look like a nord or an imperial in any game
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 United States Show Events Agree Agree x 1 (list)

  21. Post #341
    Splendor's Avatar
    December 2010
    284 Posts
    does bethesda even have a writing team
    They do.



    EDIT: Fuck, ninja'd.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 Sweden Show Events Late Late x 3Funny Funny x 1Dumb Dumb x 1 (list)

  22. Post #342
    Gold Member
    ewitwins's Avatar
    December 2009
    14,220 Posts
    God, it's like people in a 100-year drought praying for rain in here.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 United States Show Events Agree Agree x 1 (list)

  23. Post #343
    Gold Member
    UnidentifiedFlyingTard's Avatar
    March 2009
    8,434 Posts
    still, he's just a generic male, and a male can look like a nord or an imperial in any game
    The shape of the guys face in silhouette looks like a Dark Elf.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows Vista United States Show Events Agree Agree x 3Disagree Disagree x 1 (list)

  24. Post #344
    Gold Member
    Zezibesh's Avatar
    May 2008
    19,048 Posts
    I love the mod for new Vegas which removes the [intelligence] and [speech 17/25] shit from the conversations. Makes you actually think about what you say instead of just picking the obvious "easy" option that'll always complete the conversation successfully.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Finland Show Events Dumb Dumb x 4 (list)

  25. Post #345
    5killer's Avatar
    October 2007
    1,131 Posts
    Don't know if this was already posted but there is a twitter response by Pete Hines.

    http://twitter.com/#!/DCDeacon/statu...90954008383488
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 United States Show Events Winner Winner x 6Late Late x 5Informative Informative x 1Friendly Friendly x 1 (list)

  26. Post #346
    zingo's Avatar
    September 2011
    255 Posts
    If it's Rage, I'm gonna rage..
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 Iceland Show Events Agree Agree x 5Disagree Disagree x 4 (list)

  27. Post #347
    Gold Member
    Da Big Man's Avatar
    December 2005
    1,804 Posts
    I love the mod for new Vegas which removes the [intelligence] and [speech 17/25] shit from the conversations. Makes you actually think about what you say instead of just picking the obvious "easy" option that'll always complete the conversation successfully.
    Link?

  28. Post #348
    Gold Member
    thrawn2787's Avatar
    April 2007
    8,681 Posts
    Don't know if this was already posted but there is a twitter response by Pete Hines.

    http://twitter.com/#!/DCDeacon/statu...90954008383488
    god damn question is does he mean bethesda game studios makes other games or that bethesda softworks (helps to make) other games...

    i dont want it to be rage stuff. the only dlc ive ever really looked forward to ever is skyrim

  29. Post #349
    Gold Member
    TheBrokenHobo's Avatar
    August 2009
    15,328 Posts
    Don't know if this was already posted but there is a twitter response by Pete Hines.

    http://twitter.com/#!/DCDeacon/statu...90954008383488
    adsf


    I am very happy right now. My hopes have gone up so much.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 United States Show Events Agree Agree x 2 (list)

  30. Post #350
    Don't know if this was already posted but there is a twitter response by Pete Hines.

    http://twitter.com/#!/DCDeacon/statu...90954008383488
    Rage is a terrible game I hear so it better be skyrim, if anything

    that of f4, idk
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 United States Show Events Agree Agree x 5Disagree Disagree x 4 (list)

  31. Post #351
    Gold Member
    thrawn2787's Avatar
    April 2007
    8,681 Posts
    adsf


    I am very happy right now. My hopes have gone up so much.
    Hines doesnt work for the game studio part so who knows if he means rage or fallout 4 or a new ip or is fucking with people
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 United States Show Events Agree Agree x 4 (list)

  32. Post #352
    potatospirit's Avatar
    February 2012
    160 Posts
    I agree, and it seems that most of us will agree that Fallout 3 had at the very least, middling to mediocre writing if not outright shitty 10 times worse than the holocaust writing.

    Now if you're wondering why I've been pushing this point for so long, it is precisely because I want to hold it up in the light of FO1/2 and make you ask yourselves, is this really the direction Fallout should be going in?

    Should we throw away artistic integrity and excellence in writing (both characters and dialogue) in favor of black and white morality, mini nuke launchers, having blood and gore as interior decoration of your home and other things that deviate from the vision of Fallout?.
    While you are pushing a good point about the deviation from the games original nature, you don't have to start all this e-drama.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 United States Show Events Disagree Disagree x 1Optimistic Optimistic x 1 (list)

  33. Post #353
    While you are pushing a good point about the deviation from the games original nature, you don't have to start all this e-drama.

    Welcome to facepunch

    we know e-drama

  34. Post #354
    areyoublack's Avatar
    August 2011
    410 Posts
    probably late but it looks like john marston

  35. Post #355
    imasillypiggy's Avatar
    December 2009
    8,851 Posts
    Now lets see the graphical quality fit the concept art.

  36. Post #356
    Has unclosed HTML tags!
    Terabytez's Avatar
    June 2011
    1,926 Posts
    The guy on the right kinda looks like he might be wearing a vault suit.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 Canada Show Events Disagree Disagree x 1Optimistic Optimistic x 1 (list)

  37. Post #357
    Gold Member
    Swiket's Avatar
    October 2009
    9,516 Posts


    Bethesda confirmed for making a LOST game.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 United States Show Events Agree Agree x 8 (list)

  38. Post #358
    MAspiderface's Avatar
    July 2009
    9,936 Posts
    It's probably going to be Dishonored or Prey 2.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 United States Show Events Disagree Disagree x 2 (list)

  39. Post #359
    Gold Member
    Ardosos's Avatar
    July 2009
    7,335 Posts
    Don't know if this was already posted but there is a twitter response by Pete Hines.

    http://twitter.com/#!/DCDeacon/statu...90954008383488
    Hopes... deleted.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 United States Show Events Disagree Disagree x 7Agree Agree x 1 (list)

  40. Post #360
    Gold Member
    l337k1ll4's Avatar
    September 2007
    4,004 Posts
    Hopes... deleted.
    What? That means it's more likely to be Fallout 4, which I would greatly prefer.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 United States Show Events Agree Agree x 4Disagree Disagree x 2Optimistic Optimistic x 1 (list)