1. Post #1
    Dennab
    August 2011
    3,194 Posts
    Update 6/7/12
    The police will recommend pursuing charges of vehicular manslaughter against David Rosen.
    MARTINEZ -- Police have recommended vehicular manslaughter charges against a 17-year-old from Concord in the deaths of a father and daughter struck by his errant SUV and killed while bicycling on a Concord sidewalk.
    Concord detectives met with Contra Costa prosecutors Thursday morning to present the results of their two-month-long investigation, and the attorneys are reviewing a "mountain of evidence," said Concord police Lt. Bill Roche.
    "We recommended it as a vehicular manslaughter case, but it's really up to them," he said, referring to county prosecutors. "It's a matter of what the evidence will bear and their analysis of it."
    The District Attorney's Office would not comment on the case Thursday, but it has the authority to determine whether to charge teen driver David Rosen *as an adult, and whether to charge vehicular manslaughter as a felony, if it agrees with the police recommendation. Vehicular manslaughter can carry a sentence of up to 10 years in prison.
    Police said Rosen was speeding down Treat Boulevard about 9:30 a.m. April 7 when he lost control of his SUV, jumped a sidewalk curb near Oak Grove Road and struck three members of a Concord family.
    Solaiman Nuri, 41, died at the scene, while his 9-year-old daughter, Hadessa, died at John Muir Medical Center in Walnut Creek, where her mother works as a trauma nurse. Twelve-year-old Hannah Nuri suffered minor injuries.
    "The Nuri family feels very strongly
    he should be treated as an adult," said attorney Michael Cardoza, who represents the family. "Even though he was only 17, he committed an adult crime and took on adult responsibility. Even if he is tried with gross vehicular manslaughter, the penalties aren't nearly enough."
    Rumors have swirled over whether the teen had been distracted by a cellphone, but police and prosecutors were not willing to share specific evidence before charges were filed, Roche said.
    Among the evidence presented, police focused on driver distraction issues, physical evidence, statements by involved parties and witnesses, mechanical review of the SUV and driver impairment.
    "It's been a top-priority case for Concord PD," Roche said. "Our priority has been to give a thorough and accurate investigation."
    That Saturday morning, Solaiman Nuri and his daughters were wearing helmets while out on a bike ride, while his wife was at their nearby home preparing breakfast for when they returned.
    Police said Rosen had swerved to avoid hitting a car in front of him just before he lost control of the 2002 Cadillac Escalade. He struck the bicyclists, sheared off a fire hydrant and careened into the brick facade of a medical office building next to the Contra Costa Fire District's training center.
    In the weeks before the crash, Rosen had proudly posted pictures of his Escalade on social media sites. His friends said the Olympic High School student had only had his driver's license for about six months. Witnesses said he was traveling much faster than the 45 mph speed limit posted on Treat Boulevard.
    The crash struck a nerve in the community. Hadessa Nuri was a student at Woodside Elementary School and a Girl Scout; Solaiman Nuri, a driver at the Port of Oakland, coached his daughters' soccer teams. He had immigrated to Concord from Afghanistan about a decade ago and was heavily involved in the local Afghan community.
    "I think the community will go ballistic if the decision is made not to try (Rosen) as an adult," Cardoza said. "It hits us close, shows us it can all end in a heartbeat, and it's left scars with the survivors that will last a lifetime."
    During the police investigation, Concord detectives reconstructed the accident and vetted Rosen's cellphone records to determine whether he was talking on the phone or texting. They did a full toxicology screening of his blood, as well.
    Defense attorney Dirk Manoukian, a former county prosecutor unaffiliated with the Rosen case, said the teen could face charges ranging from misdemeanor or felony vehicular manslaughter to murder, depending on what occurred. The more serious the charge, the more likely a teen will be prosecuted as an adult.
    Rosen's inexperience as a driver and the factors surrounding his conduct will weigh heavily in prosecutors' analysis in reaching the appropriate charge, Manoukian said.
    "They'll have to consider every detail related to the accident and answer the question: Was this caused by simple negligence or gross negligence where the person showed a reckless disregard to human life?" Manoukian said. "There are some cases where a driver's conduct is so outrageous that it satisfies the requirements for an implied malice murder, but that is very rare and very difficult to prove in vehicular manslaughter cases."
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    Update 4/10/12
    He will be getting out today, due to some law process (information below). I'm curious to see what will happen, will he be flocked with reporters? With haters? It'll be interesting to say the least.

    The suspect in the fatal collision that killed a father and his 9-year-old daughter, who were bicycling on Treat Boulevard in Concord on Saturday, is expected to be released from juvenile hall on Tuesday, according to sources.

    The 17-year-old suspect, identified by friends as David Rosen, is still in custody, and the investigation is continuing.

    Police tell Claycord.com they have a lot of work to do before the District Attorney decides whether or not to file charges against the suspect.

    Some of the issues they have to address are:

    Analysis of the physical evidence (determination of the sequence of events based on physical evidence)
    Review statements of involve parties and witnesses; seek additional witnesses
    Mechanical review of the Escalade (suspect vehicle) to determine mechanical ability at the time of the collision
    Determine if any driver distraction/or inattention issues (Texting, speaking on cell phone etc.)
    Any driving impairment issues (Drugs or alcohol)
    Police say they would anticipate the driver impairment chemical results would take a couple of weeks to be returned. The cell phone issue also has several layers as the cell phone will need to be forensically analyzed and they will need to get phone records from the cell phone company.

    Before killing Solaiman Nuri and his 9-year-old daughter, Hadessa, the suspect was allegedly speeding down Treat Boulevard, according to witnesses.
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    CONCORD -- A speeding teen driver lost control of his sport utility vehicle, jumped a sidewalk and struck a Concord family out for a morning bike ride Saturday, killing a father and his 9-year-old daughter and injuring his 12-year-old daughter, authorities said.
    Solaiman Nuri, 41, and his younger daughter, Hadessa, were killed in the crash along Treat Boulevard, near Oak Grove Road, said Concord police Lt. Bill Roche.
    Nuri's older daughter suffered minor injuries not considered life-threatening and was treated at a hospital, Fire Marshal Lewis Broschard said. Authorities are not releasing her name at this time.
    The driver in the crash -- identified by friends as David Rosen, 17, of Concord -- suffered minor injuries and was transported to a different Contra Costa County hospital, authorities said. He later was arrested on suspicion of manslaughter at the Concord police station, Roche said.
    "Witnesses said the vehicle was traveling at an excessive rate of speed," Broschard said.
    Rosen will be held at Contra Costa County Juvenile Hall in Martinez this week while investigators consult with the District Attorney's Office about the case, police said.
    The accident occurred about 9:30 a.m., when the father and his two daughters, all wearing helmets, were on a regular family outing -- riding bicycles along a Treat Boulevard sidewalk, Broschard said.
    At that same time, Rosen, who was driving west on Treat Boulevard, swerved to avoid a car in front of him as he sped through an intersection and lost control of the white 2002 Cadillac Escalade, authorities and witnesses said.
    The vehicle struck the bicyclists, sheared off a fire hydrant and careened into the brick facade of a single-story office building next to a fire station, authorities said.
    Solaiman Nuri was pronounced dead at the scene.
    As water gushed from the mangled hydrant, firefighters from a nearby station found Hadessa on the sidewalk, unconscious and not breathing. They performed CPR on her while she was transported by ambulance to John Muir Medical Center in Walnut Creek; the Woodside Elementary School student was pronounced dead there, Broschard said. The girl's mother works as a trauma nurse at the hospital, a family member said.
    Massood Sarwari, Solaiman Nuri's cousin, arrived at the crash scene late Saturday afternoon. Sarwari said the family frequently went on bicycle rides together, and the sisters were both soccer players, describing them as "very close, almost like twins."
    "To see one pass away is just horrific," Sarwari said. "What it would cause the other daughter, and the scar it would leave on her life for the rest of her life would be just unbelievable. ... The whole family is just distraught."
    The father, who moved to Concord from Afghanistan more than a decade ago, coached his younger daughter's under-13 girls soccer team, Aria Sports Club, a nonprofit serving the Afghan community across the Bay Area.
    Friends of the family visited the crash site late Saturday, placing flowers and candles next to a tree. Hadessa's teammate Marjana Akbar, 11, placed two lit vanilla-scented candles at the makeshift memorial, saying it was her friend's favorite scent.
    Susan Surls, a Concord woman who witnessed the crash, said the moments after the crash were chaotic. She first checked on the victims on the sidewalk, then approached the SUV's driver.
    Rosen stood next to the vehicle with a deployed air bag and told witnesses he was the driver.
    "He just looked shocked to me," she said.
    After the crash, Rosen called his friend Adam Gartside, 18, of Walnut Creek, who lives within walking distance of the crash.
    "He said he'd lost control, and he may have killed some people," Gartside said. "He was frantic, in shock. It was really hard to believe."
    Rosen attends Olympic High School, a Concord continuation school, since graduating from Pleasant Hill Middle School. He lives with his parents in Concord and is unemployed, spending his free time fixing up his SUV, which he owned for about six months, with custom wheels and an expensive sound system, Gartside said.
    Zuhair Bhatti, a clerk at Cork 'N Bottle liquor store across the street from the crash, said the teen driver came in his store nearly every afternoon to buy soda.
    "I was working, and I heard the crash and people screaming," said Bhatti, who ran across the street to help. "The kids were on the ground -- one screaming and one (who) wasn't awake."
    Authorities said they are investigating the crash, which occurred in a 45-mph speed zone, but one witness said the driver raced through the intersection and flipped numerous times.
    "He was trying to make the light," said Ty Ross, an employee of Oil Changers at that intersection. "The guy was speeding down the street and hit the guy and his daughters."
    A city engineer was at the scene Saturday to evaluate the structural integrity of the building where the vehicle crashed, Broschard said.
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    The biggest fucking thing about this whole mess is that I knew this kid, and he always seemed like a bad kid, a gangster wannabe. This entire situation is trash, and there is no justification for what happened, he was supposedly going 80 mph in a 45 mph zone, and was, allegedly, texting at the same time...His facebook is full of people saying shit like:



    People defending his actions, and jumping on people that say what he did was incredibly stupid...This is just a tragedy for my area, and at first I was actually defending him a bit, saying shit like "well you know, everyone makes mistakes, but his just ended up awfully!" But then I learned he was going 80 mph, dangerously changing lanes, could have been texting...just...no justification for that shit.
    Reddit link of one of the posts by Demitri

    Anyway, pics of the kid below to paint a picture of him I suppose. Even some with his car, and I'll even post one from the article of his destroyed car.




    And the police report:
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  2. Post #2
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    Mabus's Avatar
    July 2007
    4,991 Posts
    Fuckin' idiot, he has to live with that for the rest of his life now.
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  3. Post #3
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    January 2006
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    That's fucking awful.
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  4. Post #4
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    May 2009
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    What is fucking wrong with those people on Facebook, and why is he even allowed to drive?
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  5. Post #5
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    January 2010
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    fuck the people like that, they just make it worse for everyone.
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  6. Post #6
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    February 2008
    2,543 Posts
    Can't believe that people are actually defending this bullshit, but then again it is Facebook

    Shut the fuck up fagget you don't know anything
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  7. Post #7
    Dennab
    August 2011
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    What is fucking wrong with those people on Facebook, and why is he even allowed to drive?
    In California, not sure about the rest of the USA, 15 and a half year olds are capable of getting their permit, where they can drive with their parent or anyone over 25, and if they do that as soon as possible, can drive alone by the age of 16 I believe.
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  8. Post #8
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    January 2007
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    Can't understand the facebook people

    "It's not his fault he was going nearly double the speed limit and was texting!1! Ur ignorant"
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  9. Post #9
    Dennab
    August 2011
    3,194 Posts
    Can't believe that people are actually defending this bullshit, but then again it is Facebook



    Well its more that they think its just a mistake that anyone can do, something I fell for as well, and it also has to do with them having known the guy and wanting to assume he's not the bad guy...but he is.
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  10. Post #10
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    September 2008
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    If it had been an simple driving error, then that would be an honest tragedy. But why the fuck would you speed in a built up area in a fuckoff big truck like that? If he was texting then fuck that guy.
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    February 2008
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    In California, not sure about the rest of the USA, 15 and a half year olds are capable of getting their permit, where they can drive with their parent or anyone over, and if they do that as soon as possible, can drive alone by the age of 16 I believe.
    Same for the rest of the US or at least my state, 17 here and got my license before my last birthday

    gotta wonder how this idiot passed his test given his behavior
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    July 2008
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    I love how people are defending him on FB, yet because of him two innocent people are dead.
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    August 2011
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    Can't understand the facebook people

    "It's not his fault he was going nearly double the speed limit and was texting!1! Ur ignorant"
    I think support is very crucial at a time like this, though. Unless he's an absolute narcissist (which is the vibe I'm getting but that's p. much baseless) he's probably gonna be awfully unstable for a while, and obviously we don't want people getting any further damaged from this accident.
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  14. Post #14
    Dennab
    August 2011
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    He's only had that car since December 7th or so, somehow paying for it himself, according to his Facebook.
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  15. Post #15
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    March 2005
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    What a fucking tragedy. Those people on Facebook are a bunch of retarded fucking cunts.
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  16. Post #16
    Dennab
    August 2011
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    According to people who have seen him driving around town (easy to spot a massive Escalade I suppose), he's an awful driver, always on his phone and speeding and shit...So I guess this isn't just a one time thing.
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  17. Post #17
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    November 2010
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    Those FB people are people I'd prefer not knowing IMO they seem like fucking idiots
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  18. Post #18
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    Dennab
    January 2006
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    i can't imagine how the mother must feel.
    how do you continue on?
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  19. Post #19
    Dennab
    August 2011
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    i can't imagine how the mother must feel.
    how do you continue on?
    The 12 year old daughter she still has

    Edited:

    Who was also involved in the accident, but thankfully is alright.

    I think I'm happy that she's okay...I don't know. This is awful.
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  20. Post #20
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    May 2007
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    Fuckin' idiot, he has to live with that for the rest of his life now.
    He seems like the type of person that wont care much
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    Dennab
    August 2011
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    He seems like the type of person that wont care much
    Aw come on dude, that's not true, he may seem like a douche but he seems nice otherwise, I mean I barely knew him, its been so long, but shit, he definitely cares.
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  22. Post #22
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    August 2010
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    "People make mistakes everyday? He needs all the support he can get?"
    Yeah, fuck the family of the people he killed, clearly it's him that needs all the help!
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    August 2007
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    Now, this guy should have his license revoked for ever, like that guy in New York.
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  24. Post #24
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    January 2008
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    Who in the hell trusts a 17 year old with a 65 grand SUV?
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  25. Post #25
    Dennab
    July 2010
    73 Posts
    The only "help" he needs is some time in a correctional facility with an involuntary manslaughter conviction.

    I don't think he would learn from anything less.
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    Dennab
    August 2005
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    I hope he gets some nice time to chill with his new homies who are gonna make him their sweet girl.
    And what the fuck is up with the people on facebook? Theres conforting and defending people, but that doesnt applies when you make something like this. This is absolutely gruesome and despicable. How can they literally suck his cock like that?
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    May 2011
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    why do people find it necessary to add "in my community" or anything remotely similar?
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    Dennab
    August 2011
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    Who in the hell trusts a 17 year old with a 65 grand SUV?
    Well its a 2002 Escalade, likely to be less than 20k, I'll actually go check it up really quick hold up...

    Edited:

    why do people find it necessary to add "in my community" or anything remotely similar?
    Because otherwise people see it as a typical car accident?

    Edited:

    Yeah 2002 escalades are somewhere in the neighborhood of 15k and less.
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  29. Post #29
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    January 2009
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    I hope he gets all the support he deserves in jail.

    I am not a cruel person, I think he deserves lube.
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  30. Post #30
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    Dennab
    August 2005
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    Who in the hell trusts a 17 year old with a 65 grand SUV?
    Parents with alot of cash that think their sweet little prince of a son is a good boy.

    Here in Portugal, the sooner you can start getting your license is half a year before turning 18 (age 17 and a half), and even if you finish classes and pass on the cross exam, you have to wait till youre 18 to start taking the actual driving lessons.
    And most of my friends (even those who work or those who have rich parents) don't get a car that costs more than 5.000, if even close to that. Its either a used car you can get with 2 months of minimum wage which is nothing or something just a little more expensive.

    The only person I know that sounds like this p.o.s is this kid who has had at least 3 different cars, one of them being at least 10.000. Spolied ass.
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    July 2009
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    why do people find it necessary to add "in my community" or anything remotely similar?
    Because they might actually know some of the people involved?
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  32. Post #32
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    July 2011
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    I thought it was common sense to not fucking text while driving. It's the driver's fault for losing control, my condolences to the family of those who were killed
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    Dennab
    August 2011
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    At the local private school, and this is just a stupid story overall, no purpose for the topic, there was some kid with a lotus (unsure what kind, irrelevant) who totalled it by driving like an ass, and his parents just up and bought him a new one.
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    Facebook page?
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    Dennab
    August 2011
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    Think its ethical to post his facebook?
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  36. Post #36
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    December 2009
    166 Posts
    What a scumbag. Put him away for a good while. He needs to see the consequences for such stupid actions. Although he seems like the type to lie and say he was in jail for icing some fools, not driving like an absolute dumbass. He ruined his own life, the lives of the wife and daughter, and ended a father and daughter's. What a waste.
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  37. Post #37
    oh my god...

    The accident occurred about 9:30 a.m., when the father and his two daughters, all wearing helmets, were on a regular family outing -- riding bicycles along a Treat Boulevard sidewalk, Broschard said.

    At that same time, Rosen, who was driving west on Treat Boulevard, swerved
    to avoid a car in front of him as he sped through an intersection and lost control of the white 2002 Cadillac Escalade, authorities and witnesses said.

    The vehicle struck the bicyclists, sheared off a fire hydrant and careened into the brick facade of a single-story office building next to a fire station, authorities said.
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    January 2008
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    Parents with alot of cash that think their sweet little prince of a son is a good boy.

    Here in Portugal, the sooner you can start getting your license is half a year before turning 18 (age 17 and a half), and even if you finish classes and pass on the cross exam, you have to wait till youre 18 to start taking the actual driving lessons.
    Around here, you can drive with another person at 16, and then alone once you've driven enough and passed driving tests, but you have restrictions on how powerful the car can be, how many people can be in the car, demerit points, speed, alcohol level, etc.
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  39. Post #39

    March 2011
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    what the fuck is he wearing

    Edited:


    Giant hoodie and sweatpants, you know, hoodrat stuff
    yeah, but man, that's some loose shit right there
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  40. Post #40
    Dennab
    August 2011
    3,194 Posts
    what the fuck is he wearing
    Giant hoodie and sweatpants, you know, hoodrat stuff
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