1. Post #41
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    Dennab
    August 2005
    12,791 Posts
    OH MY GODnobody should care

    I love people asking me what I want for my bill's hat though. So delicious to crush one's hopes and dreams.
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  2. Post #42
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    Dr Bob's Avatar
    June 2006
    7,361 Posts
    Valve apologists everywhere.
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  3. Post #43
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    May 2008
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    It's funny, had EA or Activition done something like this there would be no one in this thread defending them at all. They would be totally condemned.
    Facepunch: Keep on sucking that valve dick.
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  4. Post #44
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    April 2011
    47 Posts
    Well at least the map makers are finally going to get some dosh out of their work. Seriously, a person who builds a good map spends 10x the time than people on a hat, yet the hat makers get 10x revenue
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  5. Post #45
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    October 2006
    7,352 Posts
    Facepunch: Keep on sucking that valve dick.
    Implying EA/Activision have modding/mapping capabilities for many of their games and would use user-generated content which is available for free, along with rewarding the mappers themselves.
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  6. Post #46
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    August 2011
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    Probably the most obvious "cashcow" "update" from Valve yet, I mean, most gift, map stamps and duels? Some people WILL spend lots (and I mean LOTS) of cash on this.
    I'm totally fine with this. These hats are totally useless so if some people are ready to spend thousands for them I don't give a fuck.
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  7. Post #47
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    April 2010
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    It's funny, had EA or Activition done something like this there would be no one in this thread defending them at all. They would be totally condemned.
    If activision released a purely cosmetic item that you had to pay for, i would go "Ok".

    Cosmetic items are the absolute best form of item purchasing, because they make almost fuck all difference to the game, and people are still willing to buy them

    I dont understand why anyone gives a shit
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  8. Post #48
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    December 2006
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    Because I'm totally bitching or whining at anything, and not just stating my opinion on that update right?
    I'm saying it's quite an obvious cash cow, those hats, and the idea behind how to get them, for a limited time that is.

    And stop jumping the horse, just because I type my opinion about this doesn't mean I'm automatically whining, my post wasn't even hinting at a whine,it's blankly stating what the point of that little update is, fool.
    It's hard to read infliction on the internet, calm down.
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  9. Post #49
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    The hats are really ugly anyways.
    And the only one they'd actually make money from is the gift one.

    Also, something about the article that kinda bugs me is it says that this was the update that added strange parts, when it was last weeks, and not yesterdays. I know it's a really small detail, but still.

    But it's still a shitty update nonetheless.


    It contributed more than your post did.
    I'd say they both were equal in terms of contribution.

  10. Post #50
    Live2becool's Avatar
    December 2009
    1,995 Posts
    I like that Valve are milking idiots, if it means they have money to make good games like Dota 2 then I'm for it. You don't HAVE to spend anything on TF2, so I don't see what the problem is.
    Now imagine if TF2 was CoD, and Activision was Valve.
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  11. Post #51
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    November 2010
    1,016 Posts
    Now imagine if TF2 was CoD, and Activision was Valve.
    so wheres tf2,3,4, and 5?
    Activision only gets the stick because their game offers little to no innovation between iterations. If COD innovated enough, they there wouldn't be any problems with their product a year (see assassins creed) release system.

  12. Post #52
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    June 2007
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    I'm glad it's not pay to win. Also, encouraging people to give away hats using a hat? Awesome.
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  13. Post #53
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    February 2008
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    It's funny, had EA or Activition done something like this there would be no one in this thread defending them at all. They would be totally condemned.
    It all depends on their intentions if you ask me. For the most part, they're always going for money, money, money. I wouldn't say the case here with these three hats coming from Valve is entirely the case, as one of them contributes to community map makers. Also, other players are benefiting from the other two hats. Of course, Valve does want to earn money, but they're doing it in good ways.

    Until Valve starts doing things that require you to be a wallet warrior in order to obtain any items that change the gameplay aside from cosmetics, I don't really care.
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  14. Post #54
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    March 2012
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    This is optional, meaning you don't have to buy it

    why is everyone complaining
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  15. Post #55
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    August 2008
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    Why is everyone upset? I bet those upset don't even play the game anymore.
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  16. Post #56
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    September 2008
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    so wheres tf2,3,4, and 5? Activision only gets the stick because their game offers little to no innovation between iterations. If COD innovated enough, they there wouldn't be any problems with their product a year (see assassins creed) release system.
    Tf2 3??

  17. Post #57
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    Dennab
    August 2005
    12,791 Posts
    Facepunch: Keep on sucking that valve dick.
    Well it is a valve forum...
    I don't really condemn valve for this. Its basically an addon, which doesn't hurts me at all.

    The only negative thing that comes out of this is how some people care more about the hats than anything else in the game.

    Edited:

    Now imagine if TF2 was CoD, and Activision was Valve.
    But you can't compare CoD with any game made by valve.
    One was made to break sale records with the multiplayer alone with few inovative changes released every year to make tons of money, and the others are games which take a shitload of time to release and break some kind of level in criticism due to how increadible they are.
    The CS franchise (being the only games that could compare to CoD due to multiplayer which is the reason why you would get both of them) isn't as famous as the CoD franchise anymore because its old and people have moved on to CoD and BF. It still has its fame and avid players, but CoD just became a huge giant with so many releases.
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  18. Post #58
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    March 2009
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    I don't see any problem what-so-ever.
    It's a hat. You are not forced to wear it. One hat goes to map contributers. Another is reletivly cheap. And the last one gives other players more weapons and stuff.

    You are not forced to buy these things.
    The hat is not a game changing item.
    Stop bitching. You sound like the TF2 forums.
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  19. Post #59
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    March 2010
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    Why is everyone upset? I bet those upset don't even play the game anymore.
    They are jealous of the people who still play for fun.
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  20. Post #60
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    June 2006
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    Why is everyone upset? I bet those upset don't even play the game anymore.
    Because Team Fortress 2 has become bastardised by its own creators.
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  21. Post #61
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    November 2006
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    If activision released a purely cosmetic item that you had to pay for, i would go "Ok".

    Cosmetic items are the absolute best form of item purchasing, because they make almost fuck all difference to the game, and people are still willing to buy them

    I dont understand why anyone gives a shit
    This. Microtransactions in an f2p game is nothing shocking, TF2 doing them right should be an example to others. Paying to differentiate > Paying to dominate.

    That said this is a move engineered to rake in gargantuan amounts of money from idiots, but if idiots are going to throw the money at them why should they not do it?
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  22. Post #62
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    June 2009
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    And this ladies and gents is why I stopped playing tf2
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  23. Post #63
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    March 2009
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    And this ladies and gents is why I stopped playing tf2
    A hat?
    Wow you must be easily effected by trivial things!
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  24. Post #64
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    March 2010
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    I don't understand how something as cosmetic as a hat could "ruin" an entire game. Will someone explain?

  25. Post #65
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    June 2010
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    People say hats "dont effect the gameplay whatsoever"

    From what I see these days hats are essentially the goal of the game. I dont know a lot of people who couldnt care less about them. All everyone wants is to play the actual game just so they can earn more hats to show off with.

    Before you all make fun of me i'm just reporting what I see.
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  26. Post #66
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    March 2012
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    People say hats "dont effect the gameplay whatsoever"

    From what I see these days hats are essentially the goal of the game. I dont know a lot of people who couldnt care less about them. All everyone wants is to play the actual game just so they can earn more hats to show off with.

    Before you all make fun of me i'm just reporting what I see.
    The goal of the game is to do the objective of the map you are playing on, and kill people on the other team. From when I started playing TF2 around 2010, hats to me were just a reward for playing the game, and they still are. Now, I'm not sure what servers you frequent, but I move around from many servers and I rarely see anyone actually give much of a shit about hats.
    People are generally too focused on the game itself to notice hats. Or at least that's what I generally see.
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  27. Post #67
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    August 2009
    227 Posts
    the difference between what activision and ea does and what valve does is that map packs and shitty dr. pepper sponsored skins don't randomly drop like items from tf2. all you have to do is wait for some items to drop into your inventory and then you could probably craft the hat.
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  28. Post #68
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    March 2010
    7,606 Posts
    I play on a good community server and all I see is people having fun playing the game.

    Occasionally someone will talk about unusuals.

    Now that I think about it a lot of the frequent players there have unusual hats

  29. Post #69
    Imanoob's Avatar
    April 2010
    698 Posts
    I don't understand how something as cosmetic as a hat could "ruin" an entire game. Will someone explain?
    coz dey maek our characters lewk silly and ruin da artstyle :c
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  30. Post #70
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    August 2010
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    This seemed like a blatant cash grab to me at first but then I realized it was simply a way to weed out the idiots.

  31. Post #71
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    December 2007
    11,868 Posts
    Cosmetic items are the absolute best form of item purchasing, because they make almost fuck all difference to the game,
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  32. Post #72
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    May 2008
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    honestly i cant be mad at valve for this shit anymore, the tf2 community has certainly shown that this is exactly what they want to spend money on.

  33. Post #73
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    April 2007
    82 Posts
    Someone is gonna get one then destroy it
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  34. Post #74
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    January 2008
    1,068 Posts
    I got bored of TF2 long before it was free to play. I don't even know if this hat mess started before or after it became free to play. I still play TF2 sometimes.. And honestly I don't give a crap about hats or in-game items.

  35. Post #75
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    July 2007
    1,097 Posts
    Hats don't affect the gameplay. But they affect the community.
    The community is just a cesspool of shit that I don't want to be apart of so I stopped playing it years ago.
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  36. Post #76
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    April 2009
    11,549 Posts
    I remember playing this game back when I had to use CrossOver on Mac, and thinking "one day I'll have a Windows PC that could max this out with no issue!"

    then i did

    and it was great for about a year

    then all of a sudden hats and over 100 weapons

    Edited:

    coz dey maek our characters lewk silly and ruin da artstyle :c
    sure, putting it like that makes the issue seem trivial, but in reality that shit kinda does- well did matter

  37. Post #77
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    August 2010
    1,558 Posts
    I think that in the end it wasn't this exactly that made me stop playing. I think it was just the frequency of updates. Rather than a few new weapons and then wait a while for the next, with a bunch of suspense, now it's just here's your weekly ten weapons and fifteen hats now go play. I couldn't keep up with everything and just gave up trying to.

  38. Post #78
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    August 2010
    8,080 Posts
    Some of the items required for the sets act as a cripple.
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  39. Post #79
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    Dennab
    September 2007
    17,086 Posts
    am i the only one that keeps forgetting that tf2 is free to play? seriously

  40. Post #80
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    December 2007
    11,868 Posts
    Some of the items required for the sets act as a cripple.
    Missed the point entirely. Reread what he said:
    because they make almost fuck all difference to the game,
    Now do you see my point?
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