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    March 2008
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    http://www.wtkr.com/news/military/sn...,5415198.story

    LANSING, Kansas (Reuters) - U.S. authorities lack proof of what occurred the night a U.S. soldier is suspected of killing 16 villagers in Afghanistan, the lawyer representing the serviceman said on Tuesday.

    "I'm very concerned now they don't have much proof of anything," attorney John Henry Browne told Reuters after meeting with U.S. Army Staff Sergeant Robert Bales on Tuesday for a second day in a military detention center in Kansas.




    Browne said he has now spent 11 hours with Bales¬ discussing the events of Sunday, March 11, when Bales allegedly walked off his base in southern Afghanistan and gunned down the 16 civilians, including nine children and three women, in a massacre that damaged U.S.-Afghan relations.


    Bales, 38, a four-tour combat veteran, has not yet been charged, but Browne told reporters on Tuesday he expected his client to be charged with "homicide and a bunch of other charges" on Thursday. He added that the case could stretch over two years.

    "I don't know what the evidence is," Browne told reporters. "We've all heard the allegations. I don't know that the government has proved much. There is no forensic evidence, there is no confession."

    Browne said Bales is still "in shock" and cast the soldier as a selfless servant of the U.S. armed forces. "He is a soldier's soldier.¬ He did not want to go over there but he did what he was told. He has never said anything¬ about 'poor little me', which I get from my clients' way too often. His first questions were about the safety and security of his family."

    He added that Bales may speak to his wife on the phone Tuesday night, for the first time since the incident. On Monday, Bales' wife, Karilyn, appealed for peace and understanding.

    Browne sought to downplay the effect of Bales' financial problems, which include an abandoned property in the Seattle area and a $1.3 million fine from his time as a securities broker.

    "Sure he has financial problems. You don't go kill women and children because you have financial problems," said Browne.

    Browne added that he has received hundreds of emails, including from some generals and other military figures, who wished him luck in the case.

    Earlier in the day, speaking to Reuters, Browne described his time with Bales at the Fort Leavenworth, Kansas, facility as "debriefings" and a time of "getting him to trust me." He was speaking at his nearby hotel in Lansing, Kansas.

    Browne said he was leaving Kansas but his legal team would continue to meet with Bales this week.
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    What?! You mean to say we didn't recover anything from the incident? No casings or anything?

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    What?! You mean to say we didn't recover anything from the incident? No casings or anything?
    They didn't do formal CSI style crime scene investigation, or if they did they did a shitty job.

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    They didn't do formal CSI style crime scene investigation, or if they did they did a shitty job.
    they can't do one because it's overseas in another country

    our criminal investigation system doesn't apply to afghanistan, unfortunately, even if it is a us-related incident
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    they can't do one because it's overseas in another country

    our criminal investigation system doesn't apply to afghanistan, unfortunately, even if it is a us-related incident
    I thought that was the entire plot of that Jamie Foxx movie "The Kingdom" I think was the name.

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    heh

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    I thought that was the entire plot of that Jamie Foxx movie "The Kingdom" I think was the name.
    turns out you can't do that

    whole film invalidated
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    Such is life for lawyers.
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    I thought that was the entire plot of that Jamie Foxx movie "The Kingdom" I think was the name.
    Because movies never twist the truth for the sake of plot and drama

    On topic - Reading this article gives me a bad feeling that he's going to get out of this free in the distant future.

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    What?! You mean to say we didn't recover anything from the incident? No casings or anything?
    You really think that the families over there are going to let more soldiers into their homes to systematically go through everything after one of them gunned down half their loved ones? Probably not, in Afghanistan.

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    Typical Americans to accuse their soldiers to have killed innocent people in the sand countries.
    This news is all over the world news and is really pissing me off.
    There was a car accident here and it was only on 1 minute and this accused of murder is on half an hour.
    Jesus.
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    Typical Americans to accuse their soldiers to have killed innocent people in the sand countries.
    This news is all over the world news and is really pissing me off.
    There was a car accident here and it was only on 1 minute and this accused of murder is on half an hour.
    Jesus.
    are you dumb or something
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    are you dumb or something
    Yes.
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    Dennab
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    dude nice that totally knocked me off guard because you would never expect anyone to call themselves dumb!!

    whats this "typical americans" bullshit? yeah, we're trying to prosecute someone that murdered 16 civilians, what the fuck else would we do

    poor baby, sorry that your car crashes aren't being broadcast long enough, i hereby apologize on behalf of the entire population of america for trying to punish someone for massacring civilians!

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    Typical Americans to accuse their soldiers to have killed innocent people in the sand countries.
    This news is all over the world news and is really pissing me off.
    There was a car accident here and it was only on 1 minute and this accused of murder is on half an hour.
    Jesus.
    A car accident is small compared to the killings of civilians outside US soil by a US Military soldier.
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    Dennab
    February 2006
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    are you dumb or something
    Dude, I think he's either trolling or being sarcastic, but I do not think he is serious.

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    The guys probably a scapegoat.
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    I make sexist and racist jokes all the time yet,i still support the feminist movement and the rights of blacks.
    znk666's Avatar
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    Next coming up:
    There may be an HD video of my client killing 75 people in cold blood,but that still does not mean he did it!

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    Of course his lawyer is gonna say that, thats his job.
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  20. Post #20
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    Until it's all proven, we can only say he allegedly committed the murders. After all he is supposed to be innocent until proven guilty in a court of law and his lawyer is simply doing his job enforcing that. If he is guilty, it will be because the evidence proves he is guilty. If there isn't strong enough evidence to prove he is guilty, then he will not be found guilty.

    No one should jump to conclusions without examining all the evidence. I think it was just last week that there was a thread on FP saying there were multiple soldiers involved in this incident, based on a biased source with unreliable evidence. I said something along the lines of "lets wait until there is more reliable evidence before believing this" and was quickly buried in box ratings. It just shows that some people let their emotions get all fired up and jump to conclusions rather than being concerned about the truth of what happened.

  21. Post #21
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    Dennab
    August 2009
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    Could someone brush me up on this? It isn't entirely on-topic but if hes 1.3 million in dept, if he gets executed does this fine pass on to the wife?

  22. Post #22
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    Wheres that picture of the house with the massive pool of blood on the floor.

  23. Post #23
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    Defence lawyer says there is no evidence his client is guilty

    Scoop of the century