I'll inform the United Nations, let them know they can pack it in.
We do not hate them because of their race
we hate them because they WILLINGLY ARE HUMAN SHIT
THEY STEAL, ASSAULT, AND DESTROY ALL BECAUSE THEY ARE LAZY ASSHOLES
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"We don't hate them because they're Roma! We hate them because all Gypsies steal, assault, destroy, are lazy, and are worthless humans, and they're Gypsies, ergo they all steal, assault, destroy, are lazy, and are worthless humans!"
Possibly one of the most backwards trains of thought I've ever seen. I don't see how people with that train of thought can even possibly think they're not being racist, when they themselves are admitting it's a racist stereotype that they're hating them for.
That's like saying you don't hate black people because they're black, but you hate black people because they all steal bikes and like chicken.
More generally, "I don't hate [ethnic group] because they belong to that group; I hate [ethnic group] because they fulfill every stereotype associated with that group."
It's so circular it's dizzying to try and follow.
yeah uh getting all hot and bothered about it isn't really convincing me that it isn't 600 years of bred-in hatred.
Go back in time, remove the claim that gypsies possibly caused the fire from the OP, and this thread would be 2 posts long.
Yeah, sure sucks about that castle.
And yes there are different races. Asians, Whites, Blacks, are different races. It doesn't necessarily mean they are any smarter than each other but they are separate things
SigmaLambda, I am amused how for the last day you have practically lived in this thread.
because yeah obviously there's nothing more than superficial differences between white people and black people and yellow people and brown people. i thought everybody who's not a huge racist knew that
and the definition of a race is
and I'd say skin color and hair color and eye color tend to be distinct characteristics. but again they're just superficial and don't pertain to anything unless you're an ignorant, stupid fuck so uh... what was your point?google: define race posted:
also, in regards to the actual topic
What is this? A fucking crusade of mentally disabled moral knights?
You bunch keep using the word "racist"
I don't think you fully understand what it means
Oh boy you have no idea how much would I love to see Megafan, thisisspain, lambda and others to run into gypsies. I'd really love to hear their opinion after they have an encounter with them.
Ever considered the reason they behave badly in Eastern European towns is because they live in shit conditions and are treated like shit? But of course not! Eastern Europe is world-renown for being socially progressive and tolerant (!)
Races do exist. Scientifically, they are categorized from one another based off three interconnected things and what commonalities lie within them: genotypical characteristics, phenotypical characteristics, and ancestral origins (geographical, cultural, etc.). We use it every single day in forensic science, biomedical research and therapy, and numerous other such fields.
Also hah you're comparing Finland ones and Balkan ones.
What's funny is that this ad isn't far from truth.
I think it's questionable to hate a whole people for any reason.
Edit: But it's your attitudes and they are being reinforced by your friends and family probably so what can I do.
I don't think anyone in this thread hates Romani people as a whole. It's just the term gypsy can be very broad. Most of the time when they say they hate gypsies it just means that they hate people who live off the state, commit crime, live in other peoples property without permission and have no respect for people outside of their small communities.
Damnit guys, how dare you criticize people who happen to be part of a minority! Oh the humanity!
First off I'm American. I've never had to deal with any sort of gypsies in the manner that most of the people in this thread are describing: ("Thieving, vandalizing, robbing, kidnapping scum") Now before you say "you've never dealt with them fuck off", consider the following.
From what I've read in this thread alone it seems that Europeans believe that most gypsies are an inherently bad people, mooching of the state/hard-working folk for all sorts of benefits, nothing but scum; stealing your bicycles, ruining your properties and whatnot. From what thisispain and a few others have said, this hatred goes as far back as at least 200-400 years. Some of you guys say you don't hate the ones that branch off and actually leave that lifestyle, the ones who go for an education and live an honest working life.
Think about that, you guys are some of the problem as well don't you think? You would like for them to assimilate into modern society, to stop living their shitty lives with their shitty culture that seems to clash with contemporary values; to settle down and find jobs and put their children through school. Do you really expect them to try to assimilate into a society that utterly despises them? Does that make any sense to you that they would even make an attempt? You guys aren't helping the situation at all. Your governments provide the gypsies with benefits as shown by Khaoos, but as seen from the videos posted and from the testimony of posters here, that doesn't do a thing for them. It's the equivalent of a parent giving a crying child a toy in the hopes that it'll shut up and leave the parent alone, the equivalent of shutting your eyes and ears until the loud noise shuts up; it's only a temporary solution.
The only way that I can see for the gypsies to change their lifestyle is if you guys help them, make them feel part of the society at large. "Well how are we gonna do that jack?" You can start by quitting that shit of dismissing every news story that comes up in which a gypsy is involved committing a crime as "that's just how they are" or "gypsy scum".
You know why blacks fought so damn hard for equal rights? Because they felt they had a chance. They felt involved in the society at large, and more importantly, they felt people actually gave a damn. According to what I've seen in this thread, you guys aren't exactly providing that sense of belonging to the gypsies.
I will respect your opinion once you've had at least several year experience with them. No offense, but it really seems retarded to me to continue arguing when I just know that there is no way for you to understand it. I mean you can think what you want if you think we're oppressing them or not giving them any chances, but I just know that's huge load of bullshit. They've just been raised that way and I don't think things will be different unless there is some radical change.
Carry on arguing rate me dumb or whatever.
And how do you think that radical change will come about? If people like you sit on their behinds and not do a thing about it? You're funny man.
Hill is on fire again:
And how it yesterday started:
Well I think radical change will happen when gypsies get an opportunity, like when we give them free water, electricity, houses, scholarship and so on so they can finally start living a normal life.
Oh wait, they always destroy everything and then sell cables and scrap, nevermind.
You're funny man if you think you understand the problem and that it's that easy to fix it.
Whoa whoa jack, never did I say it would be easy. To change the way an entire people live and think doesn't even sound REMOTELY easy. It would take decades, especially if most people in Europe have the same wretched attitude about the situation as you.