1. Post #41
    Gold Member
    SigmaLambda's Avatar
    March 2006
    6,428 Posts
    you missed his point
    the point in that post is stupid. You can't "criticize" a race.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 United States Show Events Dumb Dumb x 21Agree Agree x 3 (list)

  2. Post #42
    Gold Member
    Chrille's Avatar
    August 2005
    5,408 Posts
    you missed his point
    seemed like a stereotype to me and nothing else
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 Denmark Show Events Disagree Disagree x 3Agree Agree x 1 (list)

  3. Post #43
    Hi
    Chekko's Avatar
    February 2010
    12,231 Posts
    Seeing historical monuments and such getting destroyed is really painful.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 Sweden Show Events Agree Agree x 25Friendly Friendly x 1 (list)

  4. Post #44
    Gold Member
    Cone's Avatar
    August 2011
    18,644 Posts
    Racism is bad, okay. This doesn't have to do as much with racism as it does with stereotypes, though.
    Stereotyping is pretty much the same thing as racism, just different parameters. Either way you're assuming the majority of an incredibly large group of people are criminalistic assholes.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 United Kingdom Show Events Agree Agree x 3 (list)

  5. Post #45
    Gold Member
    SigmaLambda's Avatar
    March 2006
    6,428 Posts
    Not many Gypsies here in Sweden, but in Italy I remember there being quite a lot. First a single caravan arrived, then a few days after you wake up and some open space has been filled to the brim with their caravans. Then the stealing begins, if it isn't bolted to something it's going to disappear overnight (they also sometimes stab cats and dogs, for no fucking reason at all, not to forget abducting children).
    Oh and 8 year olds with knives smoking at the side of the street everywhere.
    maybe if you + the rest of european society didn't discriminate against them the situation would be different.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 United States Show Events Dumb Dumb x 35Agree Agree x 2 (list)

  6. Post #46
    RISC MASTER RACE.
    MIPS's Avatar
    August 2010
    7,092 Posts
    Fucking Pikey's.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows XP Canada Show Events Funny Funny x 1 (list)

  7. Post #47
    Kljunas's Avatar
    August 2011
    2,671 Posts
    they're an ethnic group.

    hating an ethnic group is racism.
    Well no. They're not hating the group because of their ethnicity but because of what they do, implying they can be "normal" people.

    I do think putting all of them in the same basket is wrong though.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 Italy Show Events Agree Agree x 7 (list)

  8. Post #48
    JurajIsNotPirat's Avatar
    September 2009
    5,106 Posts
    Judging individuals as a group is the logical thing for humans. There's just so many people of gypsy ethnicity that can't adapt to the ideas and views of the majority, the ones that have different views easily get burried underneath.

    Edited:

    maybe if you + the rest of european society didn't discriminate against them the situation would be different.
    You obviously lack any inside view on this problem.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 Czech Republic Show Events Agree Agree x 15Zing Zing x 1 (list)

  9. Post #49
    Gold Member
    BradB's Avatar
    February 2008
    2,114 Posts
    Why do people always bring race into the discussion instead of just saying prejudiced in general. Now all we're going to have is a petty argument about semantics.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 Australia Show Events Agree Agree x 13Friendly Friendly x 1 (list)

  10. Post #50
    Gold Member
    marcin1337's Avatar
    May 2006
    876 Posts
    they sell chainsaws at my town.

    4 Hp for 400 Zloty!!!

    400 zloty = 130 USD, though you could probably haggle it to 80.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 8 United States Show Events Useful Useful x 1 (list)

  11. Post #51
    Ask me about my Marvel/DC fetish
    AaronM202's Avatar
    May 2010
    17,748 Posts
    Well, and this happens when their grandparents have incest sex, then their parent do the same, well, and they too.

    Oh dear god what.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 Canada Show Events Agree Agree x 16Friendly Friendly x 2 (list)

  12. Post #52
    Gold Member
    Cone's Avatar
    August 2011
    18,644 Posts
    Judging individuals as a group is the logical thing for humans.
    Logical? Okay, here's some logic for you:

    People make up a group. People have opposing viewpoints, but often have small amounts of similar ones that bind them with other people. Thus, people in a group do not all think the same things.

    The only logical thing you can deduct from a group of Gypsies is that they are all Gypsies.

    Edited:

    Why do people always bring race into the discussion instead of just saying prejudiced in general. Now all we're going to have is a petty argument about semantics.
    Well it's still a stereotype that causes prejudice at the very least, so it may as well be racism.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 United Kingdom Show Events Dumb Dumb x 10Agree Agree x 1 (list)

  13. Post #53
    Gold Member
    Stick it in her pooper's Avatar
    April 2009
    828 Posts
    maybe if you + the rest of european society didn't discriminate against them the situation would be different.
    I've (and my fiancee) been followed and targeted by Gypsies in Estonia, even right out in public and I've seen how they're basically taught to work in groups. They refine their ways of theft down to an art and it's at a wholesale level -- mostly the younger guys. It's quote sickening that it's basically taught to them at a younger age and they don't grow out of it.

    But as for homeless Romanian gypsies I don't know for sure how common that is.


    I suspect everyone these days, you never know what might happen
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 United States Show Events Disagree Disagree x 1Agree Agree x 1 (list)

  14. Post #54

    February 2012
    103 Posts
    Well no. They're not hating the group because of their ethnicity but because of what they do, implying they can be "normal" people.

    I do think putting all of them in the same basket is wrong though.
    It's the same rhetoric used against blacks in the US during the '60s. "I don't hate black people, they just commit lots of crimes so I hate the majority of black people".

    Also,
    According to the information of the Slovak TV JOJ, the fire was possibly started by ethnic Gypsie Children children.
    You guys are basing this information on a TV station that said it was possibly them.

    I'm going to just leave this here:
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLz5YX2oa-I
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Linux Germany Show Events Agree Agree x 6Dumb Dumb x 3Funny Funny x 1Informative Informative x 1 (list)

  15. Post #55
    Gold Member
    JustGman's Avatar
    December 2005
    6,053 Posts
    yeah, gypsies burning down a castle doesn't really surprise me.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 United States Show Events Funny Funny x 14Agree Agree x 2 (list)

  16. Post #56
    JurajIsNotPirat's Avatar
    September 2009
    5,106 Posts
    Logical? Okay, here's some logic for you:

    People make up a group. People have opposing viewpoints, but often have small amounts of similar ones that bind them with other people. Thus, people in a group do not all think the same things.

    The only logical thing you can deduct from a group of Gypsies is that they are all Gypsies.

    Edited:



    Well it's still a stereotype that causes prejudice at the very least, so it may as well be racism.
    It's logical as in it's easier to talk about them as a group, when the majority has really strong presence, than to talk about every single individual. Grouping things is a natural function of the human brain.

  17. Post #57
    Gold Member
    acds's Avatar
    October 2008
    14,886 Posts
    maybe if you + the rest of european society didn't discriminate against them the situation would be different.
    Oh yeah they moved into town, illegally occupying a public place (and defending it with violence, you try to go in there and you'll see), stealing, stabbing and abducting and it's obviously our fault, even though no-one had ever even interacted with them before.
    No-one is forcing them to move around and live of stealing, they do so of their own accord and teach their children to do the same (some break off and lead a normal life of course, but no-one has anything against those). They're nomads, it doesn't fit well with today's society and economical system, which leads to poverty, which leads to crime, but it's their choice to remain nomadic.

    Also I don't care about your economic and social situation, it will never justify kidnapping children, locking them in cages by night and using them to steal by day (not saying all Gypsies do that, but it has happened, on several occasions).
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 Sweden Show Events Winner Winner x 26Zing Zing x 2Agree Agree x 2Dumb Dumb x 1 (list)

  18. Post #58
    [EG] Pepper's Avatar
    August 2009
    9,282 Posts
    FUCKING PIKEYS!!! :argh:

    They also took my dads ladder and stole all the wheels from our cars.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 United Kingdom Show Events Funny Funny x 3Friendly Friendly x 2 (list)

  19. Post #59
    I'd buy that for a dollar
    Dennab
    September 2008
    5,876 Posts
    They're doing that all time, almost every white Slovak person hates them, but not because their color of skin, but because of what they are doing. They don't work, yet they get money from state, because they have like 20 children and they're getting social benefits (like 655 $, and just because they have 20 kids) because they are unemployed and have kids.
    And yet, they're getting free houses and STATE is PAYING THEM, to send kids to school, in which they have free food and things that you need for school.

    That's not racism, that's because they get things for free, and they're wasting them, and destroying them.

    Shit, thats a pretty fucking valid reason to hate them.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 United States Show Events Agree Agree x 7 (list)

  20. Post #60
    Gold Member
    Cone's Avatar
    August 2011
    18,644 Posts
    It's logical as in it's easier to talk about them as a group, when the majority has really strong presence, than to talk about every single individual. Grouping things is a natural function of the human brain.
    So you mean it's easier to do that, rather than logical? Because if it were logical, you would accept that the people composing groups do not equal the groups themselves and don't really represent them enough for you to be able to safely judge the whole of them.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 United Kingdom Show Events Dumb Dumb x 2 (list)

  21. Post #61
    Dennab
    October 2010
    12,254 Posts
    Well, and this happens when their grandparents have incest sex, then their parent do the same, well, and they too.
    Oh god what the fuck I never realized incest could have those kinda effects. I knew there were some effects but jesus how can that kid live like that?
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 Finland Show Events Friendly Friendly x 4 (list)

  22. Post #62
    Gold Member
    strayebyrd's Avatar
    July 2008
    7,700 Posts
    It's logical as in it's easier to talk about them as a group, when the majority has really strong presence, than to talk about every single individual. Grouping things is a natural function of the human brain.
    a lot of us Jews used to be money lenders, so we were all grouped together as money-grubbing heebs

    sorry I'd rather you address the problems as they come rather than lumping it all together
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 United Kingdom Show Events Agree Agree x 4Dumb Dumb x 3 (list)

  23. Post #63
    JurajIsNotPirat's Avatar
    September 2009
    5,106 Posts
    So you mean it's easier to do that, rather than logical? Because if it were logical, you would accept that the people composing groups do not equal the groups themselves and don't really represent them enough for you to be able to safely judge the whole of them.
    The thing with gypsy ethnicity is that the people composing the group represent the group enough. Yes, there are exceptions. Yes, there's plenty of them. People don't refer to those as "cigáni" (gypsies), though. The person of the race is called a "Róm", and is widely used in such manner.

    You'll rarely, really rarely hear someone bash Romani people, or "Róm"s.

    There's this language barrier working in favor of the problem, as english speaking countries only have one term for both variations, a "gypsy". That's as far as I know.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 Czech Republic Show Events Agree Agree x 1 (list)

  24. Post #64
    Gold Member
    Dennab
    March 2009
    2,716 Posts
    double lol at A; how you people are such huge fucking racists and B; how you're completely oblivious to that fact.
    I was wondering when you'll come up to shit up thread with thinking hating gypsies is racism.

    Oh yeah they moved into town, illegally occupying a public place (and defending it with violence, you try to go in there and you'll see), stealing, stabbing and abducting and it's obviously our fault, even though no-one had ever even interacted with them before.
    No-one is forcing them to move around and live of stealing, they do so of their own accord and teach their children to do the same (some break off and lead a normal life of course, but no-one has anything against those). They're nomads, it doesn't fit well with today's society and economical system, which leads to poverty, which leads to crime, but it's their choice to remain nomadic.

    Also I don't care about your economic and social situation, it will never justify kidnapping children, locking them in cages by night and using them to steal by day (not saying all Gypsies do that, but it has happened, on several occasions).
    This is best post. Couldn't have said it better.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 Czech Republic Show Events Agree Agree x 4Dumb Dumb x 2 (list)

  25. Post #65
    Gold Member
    Sir_takeslot's Avatar
    July 2007
    4,551 Posts
    All that history gone.

    It hurts my soul.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 United States Show Events Agree Agree x 14Funny Funny x 2Friendly Friendly x 1 (list)

  26. Post #66
    [EG] Pepper's Avatar
    August 2009
    9,282 Posts
    These are the people that took the bronze plates off of that war memorial and sold them as scrap.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 United Kingdom Show Events Friendly Friendly x 7Agree Agree x 4Dumb Dumb x 1Informative Informative x 1 (list)

  27. Post #67
    Gold Member
    Cone's Avatar
    August 2011
    18,644 Posts
    The thing with gypsy ethnicity is that the people composing the group represent the group enough.
    Ethnicity is totally irellevant right now. The point is, you're judging groups based on select individuals that compose them. In fact, even those individuals would probably be a lot more eager to stop doing shit like this (assuming they even did in the first place) if you didn't assume they were all thieves.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 United Kingdom Show Events Disagree Disagree x 5Agree Agree x 2Dumb Dumb x 1 (list)

  28. Post #68
    Gold Member
    Sir_takeslot's Avatar
    July 2007
    4,551 Posts
    These are the people that took the bronze plates off of that war memorial and sold them as scrap.
    That's fucking terrible.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 United States Show Events Agree Agree x 16 (list)

  29. Post #69
    Gold Member
    SigmaLambda's Avatar
    March 2006
    6,428 Posts
    Judging individuals as a group is the logical thing for humans. There's just so many people of gypsy ethnicity that can't adapt to the ideas and views of the majority, the ones that have different views easily get burried underneath.
    cool justification for racism bro

    You obviously lack any inside view on this problem.
    "if you only saw how these people acted you'd be racist just like me!"

    Edited:

    Why do people always bring race into the discussion instead of just saying prejudiced in general. Now all we're going to have is a petty argument about semantics.
    BECAUSE THIS DISCUSSION IS ABOUT RACE
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 United States Show Events Dumb Dumb x 26Agree Agree x 3 (list)

  30. Post #70
    Gold Member
    Andokool12's Avatar
    November 2008
    12,100 Posts
    GYPSIES 2012
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 Canada Show Events Agree Agree x 6Funny Funny x 6Friendly Friendly x 3Dumb Dumb x 1 (list)

  31. Post #71
    JurajIsNotPirat's Avatar
    September 2009
    5,106 Posts
    Ethnicity is totally irellevant right now. The point is, you're judging groups based on select individuals that compose them. In fact, even those individuals would probably be a lot more eager to stop doing shit like this (assuming they even did in the first place) if you didn't assume they were all thieves.
    Have you ever dealth with such person before? An individual like this blatanly doesn't care. He has very little idea of the concept of racism, ethnicity, and any political-well, anything.

    I do agree that judging people based on the majority is not right. It seems useless to give this much weight when talking about those people, though. Even the well-living romani people will agree that the behaviour of the so called cigáns isn't right.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 Czech Republic Show Events Agree Agree x 1 (list)

  32. Post #72
    Gold Member
    SigmaLambda's Avatar
    March 2006
    6,428 Posts
    All that history gone.

    It hurts my soul.
    you know what "hurts my soul" even more is the fact that the same attitudes that compel people to post nazi-lite rhetoric in this thread are responsible for one of the worst cases of systematic oppression of a racial group in the entire world.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 United States Show Events Dumb Dumb x 21Agree Agree x 2 (list)

  33. Post #73
    The Combine's Avatar
    July 2009
    9,754 Posts
    Whats a gypsie?
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 Austria Show Events Late Late x 1 (list)

  34. Post #74
    JurajIsNotPirat's Avatar
    September 2009
    5,106 Posts
    That's fucking terrible.
    no it's 90 cents

    Edited:

    that's enough for a cheap box of wine
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 Czech Republic Show Events Funny Funny x 4 (list)

  35. Post #75
    Gold Member
    SigmaLambda's Avatar
    March 2006
    6,428 Posts
    I do agree that judging people based on the majority is not right.
    well then stop fucking justifying it
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 United States Show Events Dumb Dumb x 8Optimistic Optimistic x 2Zing Zing x 1 (list)

  36. Post #76
    [EG] Pepper's Avatar
    August 2009
    9,282 Posts
    That's fucking terrible.
    It is fucking terrible.

    Alot of people fought for our country and sacrificed themselves for our freedom and they just come along and basically say a massive FUCK YOU and deface something like that.

    This is the biggest reason i hate them, taking the ladder and the wheels on our cars i can get over but basically SHITTING on people who layed down their lives is unforgivable.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 United Kingdom Show Events Agree Agree x 4Dumb Dumb x 2 (list)

  37. Post #77
    Gold Member
    Lamarr's Avatar
    July 2006
    1,603 Posts


    Yeah ,a lot of gypsies here in Slovakia,people try to but they make it a really hard time for us to respect THEM.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 Slovakia Show Events Funny Funny x 25Agree Agree x 6 (list)

  38. Post #78
    [EG] Pepper's Avatar
    August 2009
    9,282 Posts
    And all of this for "lolitsdoshinit"

    I'll be right back, i gotta smash something.

    Edited:

    MERGE
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 United Kingdom Show Events Agree Agree x 1 (list)

  39. Post #79
    Gold Member
    BrickInHead's Avatar
    March 2007
    16,902 Posts
    holy shit i cannot believe how extremely racist everyone in this thread is being without acknowledging that ahahahahaha oh my GOD
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 United States Show Events Dumb Dumb x 37Agree Agree x 5 (list)

  40. Post #80
    Gold Member
    ewitwins's Avatar
    December 2009
    14,067 Posts
    And then I was grateful that there aren't groups like this in the US. Seriously though, are there gypsies in the US?
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 United States Show Events Friendly Friendly x 1 (list)