1. Post #801
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    Funion's Avatar
    October 2008
    3,170 Posts
    i guessed the outcome of this on page 3 am i a winner yet
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  2. Post #802
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    June 2009
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    This shit is stupid. Why should I care about some colored kids in Uganda? What the fuck is Uganda anyways?
    woowwww
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  3. Post #803
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    February 2008
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    Also people bashing 30 mon activists, parts of me agree with you parts of me don't. The people who blindly follow IC and don't listen to the reason of outside sources, there is a problem with them, as they are so easily manipulated into being puppets. But there are a lot of people in this thread and otherwise who knew nothing about Uganda, was informed by the video, and want to help, not me issafilu through IC, and I have no problem with that. They got new information and are acting on it. And even the sheep, at least they are supporting this. Sure donating to IC is bad bit as long as they post in FB and put up posters, they are spreading awareness the whole message of Kony 2012.
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  4. Post #804
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    July 2007
    2,904 Posts
    i guessed the outcome of this on page 3 am i a winner yet
    I like how people called you things and then you were right
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  5. Post #805
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    October 2007
    15,298 Posts
    i guessed the outcome of this on page 3 am i a winner yet
    And people rated you dumb... oh how silly they look now
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  6. Post #806
    Dennab
    April 2011
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    Pretty good explanation.
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  7. Post #807
    The Union Jack would look a shit ton better with a Hammer and Sickle in the middle of it
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    November 2007
    7,291 Posts
    Pretty good explanation.
    good listen, i wonder how long it will take for the masses to understand the fraudulence behind the charity
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  8. Post #808
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    July 2009
    458 Posts
    "Kony 2012" Pros and Cons: (aka: tl;dr)

    Pros:
    - Uses donation money to produce ads to help raise awareness about the the topic at hand.
    - Very active in the community.
    - I cannot think of anything else to write here.


    Cons:
    - Only 32% of donation money actually leaves the country, and when it does it goes to the Ugandan military who do the exact same things Kony does.
    - Kony is no longer even active in Uganda
    - Invisible Children has a bad track record of manipulation, fraud, bribery, and sensationalism.
    - Absolutely ZERO transparency.
    - Money donated will most likely go towards lining someones pockets rather than towards beneficial causes.

    Weight the pros against the cons and see if it is worth it to you. If not, and you still wish to donate, do it via another source that actually handles money properly.
    Just in-case you live in Denmark, have friends in Denmark or something: Here's a translation

    ‎"Kony 2012" Positive og negative effekter:

    Positive:
    - Bruger Penge doneret til at gøre folk opmærksomme på emnet
    - Meget aktive med deres medlemmer

    Negative:
    - Kun 32% af pengene kommer faktisk ud af landet, og når de endelig gør, går det Ugandas hær, der gør præcis det samme som Joseph Kony
    - Joseph Kony er ikke engang længere aktiv i Uganda
    - Invisible Children (Gruppen bag KONY 2012), har en dårlig historie med bestikkelse, svindel og manipulation
    - Absolut INGEN bevis på de faktisk hjælper
    - Pengene der bliver doneret går højst sandsynligt i en persons lomme i stedet for at stoppe Joseph Kony

    Kik på de Positive og negative effekter ved KONY 2012. Jeg er enig med at Jospeh kony burde fanges/dræbes, men hvis i stadig ønsker at donere forslår jeg i gør det på en anden måde, end gennem KONY 2012.
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  9. Post #809
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  10. Post #810
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    July 2009
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  11. Post #811
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    September 2007
    1,197 Posts
    I support Kony 2012, but I am not getting up from this god damn chair
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  12. Post #812
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    January 2006
    1,276 Posts
    Oh wow, cancelled my transaction as soon as I heard this shit. Should've just continued giving to Africare. Which by the way is an awesome and transparent charity.
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  13. Post #813
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    June 2005
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    Oh wow, cancelled my transaction as soon as I heard this shit. Should've just continued giving to Africare. Which by the way is an awesome and transparent charity.
    Transparency in charity organizations is so crucial to basic operation. It's painful to see Invisible Children get away with having 0% transparency. If Kony 2012 hadn't become a "fad", I bet people would look at it and say "something doesn't look right". People (if they have common sense) usually want to know where their money is going and what it is doing. If they can see their donation money being used effectively, and they can see it actually being spent on projects, they are most likely going to donate a second time.

    Kony 2012 on the other hand, has absolutely nothing.
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  14. Post #814
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    November 2009
    10,536 Posts
    Guys, let's have a bet. How long do you think the facebook twats will remember this event after April 20th.

    I give it 1 week max.
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  15. Post #815
    SCREAMS 4 DA FURRY PORN
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    December 2011
    6,192 Posts
    Great news, footage just leaked by a hacker operating in Central Africa shows Kony was recently taken out by an anonymous soldier testing out the US army's latest powered exoskeleton and cloaking technology!


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  16. Post #816
    You're Gonna Carry That Weight.
    jaykray's Avatar
    June 2008
    7,186 Posts
    i guessed the outcome of this on page 3 am i a winner yet
    Same. I demand apologies.
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  17. Post #817
    SCREAMS 4 DA FURRY PORN
    RobbL's Avatar
    December 2011
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    Guys, let's have a bet. How long do you think the facebook twats will remember this event after April 20th.

    I give it 1 week max.
    I have a feeling most people will forget about it even before April 20th comes around
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  18. Post #818
    looking rad, feeling sad
    Slowbro's Avatar
    April 2011
    4,406 Posts
    LOL all these people getting in a tizzy over shit that has been going on for decades in Africa, never caring until a YouTube video becomes popular

    So you're ok with spending millions on saving little animals that are mis-treated without missing a beat, yet you neglect your fellow humans until it becomes popular to care?

    Anyone who is suddenly a part of this movement is mainstream trash. I've had a sponsor child in Uganda for 6 years because I thought I could do the world/somebody some good by giving a child food and education etc etc, not because its popular..

    The message is good, I hope they get this Kony fucker, but I'm not behind anybody who's suddenly an activist
    Charity hipster over here...
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  19. Post #819
    wtf am i reading
    Blueplastic's Avatar
    June 2010
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    i guessed the outcome of this on page 3 am i a winner yet
    Funion confirmed for genius
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  20. Post #820
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  21. Post #821
    SCREAMS 4 DA FURRY PORN
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    (User was banned for this post ("Meme Image/Extremely Offensive" - Megafan))
    No.
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  22. Post #822
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    December 2011
    104 Posts
    P-p-p-ppppro-paganda.
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  23. Post #823

    August 2008
    55 Posts
    Its all prop'uganda
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  24. Post #824
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    September 2011
    1,618 Posts
    My "friend" shared the kony 2012 video, then i told her that its just a big scam.
    ....117 Posts later she is caps raging and calling me a homo for not supporting it
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  25. Post #825
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    January 2007
    1,427 Posts
    Shouldn't we just directly fund the Legacy Scholarship Fund so it receives 100% of our donation and is put to better use other than advertising
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  26. Post #826
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    October 2007
    15,298 Posts
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...over-film.html

    Essentially, Kony hasn't been in Uganda for about a decade.
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  27. Post #827
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    June 2005
    15,630 Posts
    My "friend" shared the kony 2012 video, then i told her that its just a big scam.
    ....117 Posts later she is caps raging and calling me a homo for not supporting it
    Don't try and convince her that it's a scam. Wait until the Kony 2012 fad blows over and the real information starts to go public. She's punishing herself by getting so worked up and buying into the bullshit. It'll eventually have to end and she'll feel stupid mislead.
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  28. Post #828
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    June 2009
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    im so confused about whats going on now with this thing
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  29. Post #829
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    February 2008
    2,483 Posts
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...over-film.html

    Essentially, Kony hasn't been in Uganda for about a decade.
    However the US military advisors are in several central African countries.
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  30. Post #830
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    December 2011
    104 Posts
    I´ve known Kony before it was cool
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  31. Post #831
    Abused by Girlfriend
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    January 2010
    19,785 Posts
    I told some idiot about this being frivolous and she says

    "they're selfless so what if they're stealing money don't be harsh"
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  32. Post #832
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    March 2007
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    I emailed the FPA (Friends for Peace in Africa), a very legitimate organisation that has similar aims as Invisible Children and i got a very well thought out response. Though you might all like to read it:

    (Chunky Kong),
    I was forwarded your inquiry about the newly release Invisible Children's (IC) campaign video. I just finished watching the video. It is a marvelous piece of propaganda about a relatively small problem in the world.

    1. That the LRA committed and are probably still committing atrocities is true and it should be condemned by all peace loving people. However, this does not mean that everyone who propagandizes about it really has the interest of the people concerned. So, the video has to be looked at with a critical eye and in relationship to what else has been going on in the region. In this regard, I appreciate you seeking to know other points of view.

    2. Historically, we had had problems with the Invisible Children because whenever we called them out on peddling distorted information, they began to shy away from us. They wanted to claim to be the authority on the 25 year war in northern Uganda. Anyone who would question them was avoided at all costs because it would make them look bad.

    3. The invisible Children are like the Ugandan government under the leadership of President Museveni. They have been milking the LRA like a tick sucking the blood of a cow. They do not want the problem solved because it is a pretty good cash cow. Without the horrific narrative of the LRA, there would be no Invisible Children. Without the LRA, the Museveni regime would not have a receptive ear in Washington DC in the last 25 years. Every peace effort was sabotaged by the regime in order to keep the war going so that the regime can claim that it was still fighting international terrorism. In this regard, the Invisible Children have been working with the government of Uganda to fan the LRA flame. They were met by the President and other officials who objected to the original Invisible Children video after it was first screened in 2004. Since then, the two sides have found a gold mine in the LRA, literally and figuratively. You can also add Resolve Uganda whose officials have been able to gain access to Congress in name of fighting the LRA.

    Those in the government tell us that there are only about 200 LRA soldiers. One has to ask why the LRA has not yet been eliminated using a combined 250,000 troops of the UN, DRC, CAR, South Sudan and Uganda who are roaming the region? Add on to that 100 US troops and all the millions of $ provided by the US for logistics, transport, food etc. Why or how come? The answer is that the major players, namely Museveni do not really want this problem to go away for its cash cow value. More recently Ugandan troops have been accused of looting diamond, timber and other resources from CAR and also of raping women. Mark you, Ugandan troops were accused of the came crimes in the DRC and South Sudan. Does the IC video tell us such information? Of course not. It sells better to propagate the narrative of how the LRA cuts of lips, ears, rapes young girls etc.

    4. There are a lot of images of mutilated faces, human skulls and others flashed on the screen in the video. They look impressive, but they tell us nothing about who really committed those crimes. The fact of the matter is that many of the crimes were committed by the Uganda government and blamed on the LRA. Because the LRA had no access to the media, whatever the government said became accepted as the truth. The skulls could have come from Luwero where in the 1908s the Museveni rebels called NRA would dress up as government soldiers and kill villagers, run away and come back dressed as rebels supposedly to save the people from government soldiers. After the 1980s war, the Museveni regime gathered some skulls and invited the international press to show them the skulls of people supposedly killed by the then government. Likewise, the skulls could have come from Rwanda, the remains of people killed during the genocide in 1994. Can you and I really tell where the skulls came from by looking at the video?

    5. it is true that the Invisible Children did rehabilitate a few schools in Uganda and are paying school fees for some children, but relative to the amount of money they collect from donors, it is peanuts. The few schools they built or rehabilitated and the students they support are a good bait to keep the money spigot open. They have to spend a little to make more.

    6. If the Invisible Children are serious about fighting injustices in Northern Uganda, let alone in Uganda as a whole or the world, they would have understood and accepted the fact that the real cause of injustices is the dictatorship in Uganda. The LRA is nothing but a symptom of what is wrong in Uganda. Where was the Invisible Children when almost 2 million people were incarcerated in the so-called protected villages or Internally Displaced People's camps (IDP) where people were dying more of preventable causes than the LRA ever killed? This was part of a carefully hidden genocide against the people of Acholi. Where is the IC when it was revealed that the Museveni regime looted natural resources of the Democratic Republic of the Congo and fomenting ethnic cleansing for which Uganda government was found liable and judged to compensate the DRC by $10 billion by the International Court of Justice. Not a single cent has yet been paid. Even years after the LRA left Uganda, dictatorship has not diminished. Arbitrary arrests, torture, shooting, general violation of human rights, suppression of political rights to organize and demonstrate etc are still the order of the day. Corruption is rampant. Violent removal of peasants from their land after they had just returned from the IDPs camps by the government currently going on in Amuru District. The government does not obey its own laws.

    7. While the people of Uganda acknowledge that the LRA committed some horrid atrocities, they now understand that the LRA had a reason to fight the Museveni regime. While the IC showed a few people urging the capture of Kony, you will be surprise to know that given what Museveni has been doing in Uganda, many people now say that they would give Kony a hero's welcome if he were to come back. Many people see him as someone who stood up to a tyrant. Their only regret is that he used the wrong approach to fight the regime.

    8. Hidden in the new IC video's call to action is war. Many reasonable people do not think that a military approach is the solution to the problem of which the LRA is a symptom. Many of the stakeholders from Northern Uganda prefer a negotiated solution simply because the two sides are both accountable for the crimes against humanity which they have committed. It is not justice to hold one side accountable while the other side is left to roam freely. Now the LRA is in a survivor's mode. Had they been given a safe place to settle while a peaceful settlement is negotiated, none of the killing or looting the LRA does now would take place. Even if the LRA were to be eliminated, so long as conditions which give rise to rebellion (the corruption, political repression, suppression of dissent, land grabbing etc) go on in the country, it is just a matter of time that new rebel groups will spring up.

    I can go on and on, but this will give you some of our views on the Invisible Children. Basically, they are using the LRA to benefit financially, promote their careers, and gain access to the corridor of powers in Washington while taking advantage of the generosity of young innocent minds in the schools. Let me know if you have more or specific questions.
    Okot.
    That's pretty much it! Thanks for sharing. I'm sharing this too if you don't mind!
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  33. Post #833
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    December 2006
    864 Posts
    I wanted to post this as my facebook status, but I just want to make sure it's legit, like, nothing wrong with it.

    "Since everyone is freaking out about Kony, i just kinda wanted to share some stuff. The "Kony2012" charity is a big scam. The videos used in the video, are actually from 2004. Kony isn't active anymore, he hasn't been for 8 years. Only 32% of the donation money actually goes out of country, and when it does, it goes to the Uganda government, which most of the terrible things actually was the Uganda government's doing. It's a nice thing to support, but donating is definitely not the way. Just wanted to let you guys know."

    does that sound about right?
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  34. Post #834
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    June 2005
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    I wanted to post this as my facebook status, but I just want to make sure it's legit, like, nothing wrong with it.

    "Since everyone is freaking out about Kony, i just kinda wanted to share some stuff. The "Kony2012" charity is a big scam. The videos used in the video, are actually from 2004. Kony isn't active anymore, he hasn't been for 8 years. Only 32% of the donation money actually goes out of country, and when it does, it goes to the Uganda government, which most of the terrible things actually was the Uganda government's doing. It's a nice thing to support, but donating is definitely not the way. Just wanted to let you guys know."

    does that sound about right?
    It doesn't matter what you say. Kony 2012 has become a fad, which means you either 100% support it or you will be savagely attacked.
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  35. Post #835
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    February 2008
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    I wanted to post this as my facebook status, but I just want to make sure it's legit, like, nothing wrong with it.

    "Since everyone is freaking out about Kony, i just kinda wanted to share some stuff. The "Kony2012" charity is a big scam. The videos used in the video, are actually from 2004. Kony isn't active anymore, he hasn't been for 8 years. Only 32% of the donation money actually goes out of country, and when it does, it goes to the Uganda government, which most of the terrible things actually was the Uganda government's doing. It's a nice thing to support, but donating is definitely not the way. Just wanted to let you guys know."

    does that sound about right?
    Kony 2012 is not the scam. Its the idea. Invisible Children is a scam.

    Edited:

    It doesn't matter what you say. Kony 2012 has become a fad, which means you either 100% support it or you will be savagely attacked.
    False, I swayed a good 5 people to listen to me, and 2 to share. Words getting out. And to clarify, Im ok with Kony 2012 being a fad. Even if they are only psuedo-aware, that should be enough to get congress to leave the advisors in central Africa. Invisible Children, is exploiting this idea.
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  36. Post #836
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    December 2006
    864 Posts
    Kony 2012 is not the scam. Its the idea. Invisible Children is a scam.




    False, I swayed a good 5 people to listen to me, and 2 to share. Words getting out. And to clarify, Im ok with Kony 2012 being a fad. Even if they are only psuedo-aware, that should be enough to get congress to leave the advisors in central Africa. Invisible Children, is exploiting this idea.
    Yeah, I thought that's what it was, but besides that, everything is pretty solid, eh?
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  37. Post #837
    Resident Dick Master
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    September 2008
    39,249 Posts
    It doesn't matter what you say. Kony 2012 has become a fad, which means you either 100% support it or you will be savagely attacked.


    I posted that expecting a load of complaints but got actually lots of positive response to it, not everyone is falling for it, there's lots of people who know it's all not great and all that shit

    go for it with posting the status but i'd say you need more information otherwise people probably will just think you're being negative or something
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  38. Post #838
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    February 2008
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    Yeah, I thought that's what it was, but besides that, everything is pretty solid, eh?
    Well you almost portray the LRA as innocent, by saying most of the bad things were done by the Ugandan governments, but it is more like IC is funding UPDF, which is guilty itself of doing many of the same things that they are trying to stop the LRA from doing including raping, looting, and allowing children to fight.
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  39. Post #839
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    December 2011
    104 Posts


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  40. Post #840
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    September 2009
    4,867 Posts
    You're doing it wrong.

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