1. Post #1
    Bel Irkalli's Avatar
    January 2012
    167 Posts
    So I've been away from GMod since like 2010 or so. I want to build some shit with guns and shit, but I don't want to use gCombat since it was broken back then and probably hasn't been maintained a bit since then.

    So has anything new sprung up to fill the vacuum?
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  2. Post #2
    Clyde (Irish)'s Avatar
    January 2012
    170 Posts
    ACF has some cool shit you might want to check out

  3. Post #3

    April 2011
    4 Posts
    Yeah, use ACF. It's SVN though. Here's a link to get you started.
    Make sure you follow the installation Instructions. Took me a couple of tries to get it right.

    http://acf.googlecode.com/svn/branches/

    I'm going to assume you know how SVN works. If not here's a guide to get you started.

    http://tortoisesvn.net/docs/nightly/...ick-start.html

    If everything installs correctly the folder you installed the ACF pack to should be labelled with a small green checkmark. If it's a red X you may want to try running an SVN update.

  4. Post #4
    Fight until death, shoot until empty.

    November 2009
    15,895 Posts
    PewPew?
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  6. Post #6
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    devonjones's Avatar
    December 2007
    593 Posts
    PewPew is atrocious compared to ACF.
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  7. Post #7
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    superstepa's Avatar
    June 2009
    8,972 Posts
    I can't figure out how ACF works though
    The props I use are not getting destroyed
       And there are no lasers   
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  8. Post #8
    Bel Irkalli's Avatar
    January 2012
    167 Posts
    What does ACF stand for, and is there a facepunch thread about it?

    EDIT: ACF Stands for Armoured Combat Framework. Still working on the thread.

  9. Post #9
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    devonjones's Avatar
    December 2007
    593 Posts
    What does ACF stand for, and is there a facepunch thread about it?

    EDIT: ACF Stands for Armoured Combat Framework. Still working on the thread.
    there is no thread.
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  10. Post #10

    April 2011
    4 Posts
    What does ACF stand for, and is there a facepunch thread about it?

    EDIT: ACF Stands for Armoured Combat Framework. Still working on the thread.
    Like I said, it's mostly an SVN repository, and if you're wondered on how it works, there's many tutorials (and an ongoing class) available for you to use it if you choose to use this addon.

  11. Post #11
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    Saza's Avatar
    July 2009
    19,203 Posts
    I use ACF, GDC, and PewPew, it really depends on what I'm building

    for example, normally I'll use ACF but if I need a lightweight gun GDC works and if I need to save space too, PewPew works for that

    however ACF hands down is the best
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  12. Post #12
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    BradB's Avatar
    February 2008
    2,117 Posts
    Tortoise SVN just for gmod addons is a dumb and bad solution. Use this instead. It even comes with most SVNs you'll need already listed in it (including PewPew, Wire, Gcombat + Extended) but you can effortlessly add custom ones too.
    Tick the boxes and hit download.


    If you can't work it out for yourself somehow, this is how the boxes would need to be filled out for adding ACF:


    http://acf.googlecode.com/svn/branches/models/
    http://acf.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/

    For convenience here's some other things that come via SVN that you will want:
    Wenli's Build Tools
    Fallen's Build tools
    Adv Dupe 2
    No collide all multi
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  13. Post #13
    Bel Irkalli's Avatar
    January 2012
    167 Posts
    Tortoise SVN just for gmod addons is a dumb and bad solution. Use this instead. It even comes with most SVNs you'll need already listed in it (including PewPew, Wire, Gcombat + Extended) but you can effortlessly add custom ones too.
    Tick the boxes and hit download.


    If you can't work it out for yourself somehow, this is how the boxes would need to be filled out for adding ACF:


    http://acf.googlecode.com/svn/branches/models/
    http://acf.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/

    For convenience here's some other things that come via SVN that you will want:
    Wenli's Build Tools
    Fallen's Build tools
    Adv Dupe 2
    No collide all multi
    I kinda shit myself when I saw someone recommending something that a friend of mine (Fallen) did. I never knew he had any releases.

    But yeah, thanks dude.

  14. Post #14
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    Treelor's Avatar
    February 2005
    2,080 Posts
    ACF is the most detailed and realistic, sure. If that's what you're looking for then that's what you want. If you're looking for a more arcade approach to damage handling I would recommend PewPew. No ammo, no armor simulation, just a whole bunch of HP and cool lasers and stuff.

  15. Post #15
    DarkShadow6's Avatar
    September 2009
    537 Posts
    -snip-

  16. Post #16
    DarkShadow6's Avatar
    September 2009
    537 Posts
    Trying ACF.

    Okay, here's my rating.
    ACF is a superb mod.
    The models are absolutely sexy in every way. They're industrial and clunky looking, like guns really are. They're also huge and weight a lot. The whole ammunition system takes a bit to get used to and is pretty finicky at times but is a very welcome addition. I like realism, and this mod gives it. Also, instead of hugearse explosions with PewPew when you destroy something, the prop is instead unwelded and unfrozen. Further projectiles cannot collide with it (I just figured it out - probably just no-collided it).

    On the other hand, however, it is a year or so old. There have been no updates in a while. This means, of course, that there are bugs. Standard bullets do not fire, you have to use one of the other types. The weapon linking/unlinking system bugs out sometimes. The gun does not fire correctly when using an input from an E2 (from my tests) and from an Adv. Pod Controller (also from my tests). I don't know if I was doing something wrong or if it was actually broken.

    In conclusion, the mod is greatly broken in a few areas, and apparently there are no missiles as they were buggy and unbalanced. However, overlooking these bugs (or even attempting to fix them (?)) could service you with a very fun, useful, well-modeled and realistic weaponry addon.

    Also, did I mention the sounds are orgasmic?


    In the end, however, I have switched back to PewPew for the larger userbase, the better compatibility with Wire, the fact that it's modular and more compact, the fact that it is able to actually be fired, and just because I'm used to it. If PewPew had the best parts of ACF (i.e. the ammo system, the destruction system that doesn't destroy props, but simply unwelds, unfreezes and no-collides it) then I would be a very happy man.

    That answer your question?

    ...Edit... You know what? Why do I even have any of this? When I make contraptions I don't even use it. I usually just make my own damage system with Damage Detectors and E2 >_>
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  17. Post #17
    One Ear Ninja's Avatar
    November 2009
    2,143 Posts
    Uh, what do you mean it's not been updated in a while? The mod has been very active.

  18. Post #18
    DarkShadow6's Avatar
    September 2009
    537 Posts
    Uh, what do you mean it's not been updated in a while? The mod has been very active.
    wat
    Edit: I was reading an apparently old thread about ACF. When was it last updated?
    Another edit: Answered my own question.

    Fixed the attachments on the air turbines. Feb 8, 2012 lazermaniac
    -snip because I thought I sounded like a douche-