1. Post #81
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    I wonder if these'll just be the Yellow/Crystal/Emerald/whatevertheotheronewas equivalents for this generation, to avoid the terrible title of "Pokemon Grey"
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  2. Post #82
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    I thought all Pokemon games were sequels...

    So it's a sequel to a sequel?
    When you actually look at the storyline carefully, the Gen I games take place at the same time as the Gen III main games, and then Gens II and IV at the same time as sequels to their previous iterations, but that was different because they took place in different regions with entirely different stories.

    Gen V is making it worse by not following the formula of "Two games that are similar and opposites simultaneously, then a third game that combines elements of the stories of the first two games and improves on it a lot more, while not being an actual sequel".

    You can think of individual Pokemon games in the same generation as different parallel universes where different things and similar things happen all at the same time.

  3. Post #83
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    The games themselves keeps getting better while the pokemon designs keep getting worse
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  4. Post #84
    I am pleased with this news, nostalgia fags ahoy

    Edited:

    The games themselves keeps getting better while the pokemon designs keep getting worse
    Reshiram and Zekrom came from one ancient dragon pokemon, and Kyurem is rumored to be what was left

    the speculation is that this is an attempt to fuse them back together
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  5. Post #85
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    The games themselves keeps getting better while the pokemon designs keep getting worse
    And the designs for the people. Good lord how awful Team Galaxyspaceshipbuttsextuna or whatever look.

    And remember how badass or cool the gym leaders? Now they look like mutated fruit loops from my nightmares.

    Oh and the heroes always look like something even the deviant art dwellers would deny.

    I miss Team Rocket
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  6. Post #86
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    Is GameFreak afraid of 3DS technology? The 3DS has 3D models of every pokemon from Black and White at their disposal, and all future 3DS games will use Nintendo Network, so thus possiblity of updates and DLC for Pokemon. But no, they'd rather stay on DS, have multiple friend codes, be stuck with boring old Wifi, and rehash instead of actually moving forward. You wanna know where it stopped for me? Heartgold and Soulsilver, now those are fucking Pokemon games.
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  7. Post #87
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    Is GameFreak afraid of 3DS technology? The 3DS has 3D models of every pokemon from Black and White at their disposal, and all future 3DS games will use Nintendo Network, so thus possiblity of updates and DLC for Pokemon. But no, they'd rather stay on DS, have multiple friend codes, and rehash instead of actually moving forward. You wanna know where it stopped for me? Heartgold and Soulsilver, now those are fucking Pokemon games.
    Maybe if there was more than four people owning a 3DS they'd do it.
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  8. Post #88
    And the designs for the people. Good lord how awful Team Galaxyspaceshipbuttsextuna or whatever look.

    And remember how badass or cool the gym leaders? Now they look like mutated fruit loops from my nightmares.

    Oh and the heroes always look like something even the deviant art dwellers would deny.

    I miss Team Rocket
    nah



    let's take the time to make sure we know what we're complaining about, kids!
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  9. Post #89
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    Maybe if there was more than four people owning a 3DS they'd do it.
    Are you joking? The 3DS has its library of games sustained by now and a single mario game alone has made 5 million sales worldwide, theres no reason for this fucking company to be stuck in the past. They talk so much smack about a whole new pokemon for the new generation yet dont move forward.
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  10. Post #90
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    nah



    let's take the time to make sure we know what we're complaining about, kids!
    I take it this is satire?
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  11. Post #91
    I don't see any mutated fruit loops there bro

    I assumed you knew what you were whining about
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  12. Post #92
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    Seriously? The only new things that were brought to the table (at least up until the DS era) were so worthless it's not even funny. Berry mixing? Versus seeker? The endless stream of far too many pokemon?
    Ehh.. no, in fact that statement made me hurt on the inside a bit... They added things, slowly yes, but each iteration added something rather important.

    Gen two was breeding, that is rather important in gen 4+ meta game(breeding for IVs, Abilities).

    Gen three added abilities, natures and reformed the individual/effort value system. It also added double battles and opened up a new spectrum to competitive battling.

    Gen four fixed the attack and sp.atk system, so it makes more sense. It also added the ability to battle and trade over wifi.

    Gen five added Rotation and triple battles, again, opening up a new way to play. It also added the dreamworld, pretty awesome Pokemon with unique abilities can be found there.

    As for moves and new Pokemon, diversity is good. It may seem like a lot but, the more there are, the more diversity in the metagame there is.



    Yeah. They added important shit.
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  13. Post #93
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    nah



    let's take the time to make sure we know what we're complaining about, kids!
    The middle one looks stupid.

    Then again, people who wear those fucking crotchless pants in real life look stupid too, so fair's fair, I guess.

    The other two are good.
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  14. Post #94
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    The middle one looks stupid.

    Then again, people who wear those fucking crotchless pants in real life look stupid too, so fair's fair, I guess.

    The other two are good.
    They're all stupid
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  15. Post #95
    if you're not going to bring anything intelligent to this then you should stop
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  16. Post #96
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    if you're not going to bring anything intelligent to this then you should stop
    Something intelligent to say about not like a pokemon character designs? Jesus.
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  17. Post #97
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    I loved Pokemon as a kid, but I haven't played it in a while. Sure, I've wanted to, but I could never be bothered to get a DS for it. I wish I still had my Pokemon Yellow edition of the GBC.

    It always astounds me how they don't get flak for what they do though. If you think about it, it's worse than the repetition in the CoD series. They release 2 games that are all but identical except for a slightly different (read: different color) antagonist group and a different end-game pokemon. And starting with Gold/Silver, they release a THIRD game that just combines the first two with a bit more of end game content. New titles added a bunch of cool stuff and made it worth it to buy though.
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  18. Post #98
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    I would get this, sadly my DS mysteriously disappeared about a year ago.

  19. Post #99
    I loved Pokemon as a kid, but I haven't played it in a while. Sure, I've wanted to, but I could never be bothered to get a DS for it. I wish I still had my Pokemon Yellow edition of the GBC.

    It always astounds me how they don't get flak for what they do though. If you think about it, it's worse than the repetition in the CoD series. They release 2 games that are all but identical except for a slightly different (read: different color) antagonist group and a different end-game pokemon. And starting with Gold/Silver, they release a THIRD game that just combines the first two with a bit more of end game content. New titles added a bunch of cool stuff and made it worth it to buy though.
    there's more differences between two games than the legends

    it's mostly the pokemon that you can only catch in one version and not in the other, to encourage trading, but there's other things depending on which games you're talking about

    the different colored team thing was only in Gen 3 though
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  20. Post #100
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    It always astounds me how they don't get flak for what they do though. If you think about it, it's worse than the repetition in the CoD series. They release 2 games that are all but identical except for a slightly different (read: different color) antagonist group and a different end-game pokemon. And starting with Gold/Silver, they release a THIRD game that just combines the first two with a bit more of end game content. New titles added a bunch of cool stuff and made it worth it to buy though.
    The reason is that most people who played it back in the late 90's don't play it now, and most people who play it now didn't exist in the 90's.

    And the years are much more spread apart than in CoD.

  21. Post #101
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    Why are people so exited for yet another rehash aimed at MLP watching manchildren

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  22. Post #102
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    If you're talking about GenIII, then I'd disagree due to the fact that it effectively modernized Pokemon to 21st Century standards, with everything from abilities and double battles, a huge-ass world, updated visuals, weather, and so on. GenII to GenIII was a huge leap.

    And while I agree that GenIV didn't really change anything (I haven't played it), Generation V (BW) effectively modernized GenIII by introducing Pokemon to very impressive 3D, giving it a decent plot, furthering online multiplayer development, streamlining language controls, and just generally giving it an epic theme in comparison to GenII/III.

    In contrast, there might be numerous Megaman spinoffs but the sequels within each spinoff rarely change anything compared to the previous games. There's also, as stated above, a shitton of Pokemon spinoffs as well, which often happen to be decent games.
    Gen IV didn't introduce anything? Special/Physical split made some pokes a lot better (absol, gyarados, etc) by giving them a physical STAB

  23. Post #103
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    Why are people so exited for yet another rehash aimed at MLP watching manchildren

    You have got to be kidding.

    Really?

    ...

    REALLY?

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  24. Post #104
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    no, cowboys are sweet

    N is dumb though

  25. Post #105
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    no, cowboys are sweet

    N is dumb though
    The plot involving him is pretty good though.
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  26. Post #106
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    You have got to be kidding.

    Really?

    ...

    REALLY?
    Pokemon is shit, it's basically a Japanese Call of Duty
    it even has the same target audience
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  27. Post #107
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    Actually, Pokemon has had different "genres" in its series. Pokemon Colosseum, Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness, all those Pokemon Ranger games, the Pokemon ranch game for the Wii, that one Pokemon game where you're all toys or whatever on the Wii, etc.
    Except other than Pokemon Ranger or Pokemon Ranch (?), the difference is that one is in 3D and one is in 2D. If you compared Megaman Legends to classic Megaman or even Megaman Battle Network you'd be pretty hard-pressed to say the gameplay is the same, but if you compare Pokemon Colosseum to Pokemon Gold (or any handheld Pokemon game really), it's basically the same game.
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  28. Post #108
    Pokemon is shit, it's basically a Japanese Call of Duty
    it even has the same target audience
    in what way is it like call of duty that hasn't already been refuted above

  29. Post #109
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    The plot involving him is pretty good though.
    yeah just don't like the green hair ponytail and the random rubik's cube

  30. Post #110
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    The plot involving him is pretty good though.
    Honestly, the story for black and white was a good bit better than the previous ones.
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  31. Post #111
    it's basically the same game.
    read wingedwizard's post

  32. Post #112
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    in what way is it like call of duty that hasn't already been refuted above
    The fact that you have to buy another rehash for a minor change in gameplay that's shit regardless of what you do

    It's baby's first jRPG
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  33. Post #113
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    Ehh.. no, in fact that statement made me hurt on the inside a bit... They added things, slowly yes, but each iteration added something rather important.

    Gen two was breeding, that is rather important in gen 4+ meta game(breeding for IVs, Abilities).

    Gen three added abilities, natures and reformed the individual/effort value system. It also added double battles and opened up a new spectrum to competitive battling.

    Gen four fixed the attack and sp.atk system, so it makes more sense. It also added the ability to battle and trade over wifi.

    Gen five added Rotation and triple battles, again, opening up a new way to play. It also added the dreamworld, pretty awesome Pokemon with unique abilities can be found there.

    As for moves and new Pokemon, diversity is good. It may seem like a lot but, the more there are, the more diversity in the metagame there is.



    Yeah. They added important shit.
    I wonder why they didn't change the completely aethestic of it though. I liked the Gamecube versions because of it. It being on the DS is really no excuse, numerous JRPGs have full 3D environments and characters.

  34. Post #114
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    The fact that you have to buy another rehash for a minor change in gameplay that's shit regardless of what you do

    It's baby's first jRPG
    100+ new Pokemon and additions and changes in gameplay mechanics is hardly a rehash. The concept will always be the same though.
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  35. Post #115
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    I wonder why they didn't change the completely aethestic of it though. I liked the Gamecube versions because of it. It being on the DS is really no excuse, numerous JRPGs have 3D.
    The pokemon fanbase isn't exactly demanding, they buy the same game every few years.

    Edited:

    100+ new Pokemon and additions and changes in gameplay mechanics is hardly a rehash. The concept will always be the same though.
    You do realize the new pokemon just replace the old ones? Remember how in the beginning of new pokemon games, you always fight a bunch of rodent pokemon? They just replace said rodent with another.
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  36. Post #116
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    read wingedwizard's post
    Yes, I get that they added some different new thing for each generation, but what I'm saying is even past that, it's still basically the same game.

    Did breeding so radically change the gameplay in Gold/Silver that it was worth a whole new game?
    Did fixing how Special Attack works so radically change the gameplay in Diamond/Pearl that it was worth a whole game?

    It's like in Call of Duty, where if they add one new gametype or perk per game, but the gameplay is basically the same. That's ridiculous, so why is this any different?
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  37. Post #117
    The fact that you have to buy another rehash for a minor change in gameplay that's shit regardless of what you do

    It's baby's first jRPG
    couldn't you say the same thing about Half-Life then

    is Half-Life shit?

    why change it if it works?
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  38. Post #118
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    And Pokemon is hardly a story-driven game, you have to admit.

    Edited:

    couldn't you say the same thing about Half-Life then

    is Half-Life shit?

    why change it if it works?
    If it works why does it need a sequel that is basically the same?
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  39. Post #119
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    You do realize the new pokemon just replace the old ones? Remember how in the beginning of new pokemon games, you always fight a bunch of rodent pokemon? They just replace said rodent with another.
    We obviously do not think on the same level here.

    For me, Pokemon is about the competitive side. Each rodent has something unique about it. Whether it be its movepool or ability. I enjoy the story also, good time killer for a handheld.

  40. Post #120
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    Wow
    This is reminding me how much I loathe half the Pokémon fandom.

    "hurr-fuckiddy-durr all the new pokemon look like digimon they're all so ugly nothing is good past 1999 god pokemon sucks now"

    Shut up, god.
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