1. Post #41
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    I wouldn't mind that
    So Killzone?

  2. Post #42
    I do it all
    fruxodaily's Avatar
    November 2010
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    Thirdperson sounds more funner, as long as the PC port doesn't have sort of shit controls like GTA IV.

    Not bragging on GTA IV I mean they tried their best but I just found using a controller was way easier + entertaining
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  3. Post #43
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    Or how about something not from the allied perspective? In any war...
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  4. Post #44
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    Dennab
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    -snip- that was vietnam

  5. Post #45
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    It's a good thing we have ratings otherwise people would actually have to think for themselves and formulate an opinion and things might get out of hand.
    Yeah

    Like Call Of Duty being shit.
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  6. Post #46
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    No thanks, WWII has been done to death. However, I think Russia is a little tired of being the bad guy. How about we just stop making any Call of Duty titles in their current form. Every consequent release hurts the gaming industry more and more.

    Edited:
    I would however look forward to a refreshing reboot by a non-activision affiliated company a few years from now.
    Actually imo, WWII games of Normandy have been done to death.

    New stuff such as the North African front and Italy would be nice.
    Maybe even the eastern front as there aren't many Eastern front games.
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  7. Post #47
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    COD needs a true Vietnam game, not the black ops craziness.
    Won't happen, it seems like they've changed from "you're a soldier doing soldier missions and shit" to "you're a secret agent spy guy who does secret missions to kill a russian, occasionally joining in some war with average soldiers but only for a short time".
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  8. Post #48
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    Dennab
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    I think it would be kind of interesting with an FPS made where the US is the bad guy. Kind of like we've turned into the country from Escape from New York or something.
    I actually had an entire plot for a CoD clone cooked up on a notebook. It had the U.S. and Canada as the enemy while the U.K. and Russia partnered up to defeat them.
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  9. Post #49
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    Won't happen, it seems like they've changed from "you're a soldier doing soldier missions and shit" to "you're a secret agent spy guy who does secret missions to kill a russian, occasionally joining in some war with average soldiers but only for a short time".
    Well CoD1 and 2 had that with the British.
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  10. Post #50
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    I actually had an entire plot for a CoD clone cooked up on a notebook. It had the U.S. and Canada as the enemy while the U.K. and Russia partnered up to defeat them.
    I had almost the exact same thing except it was Russia and Canada vs the US with most of NATO eventually joining the Russian side. And the main characters were a Russian conscript and a Canadian soldier.
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  11. Post #51
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    Well CoD1 and 2 had that with the British.
    Still though, alot of the time you were with fairly large groups of team mates in fairly big battles.
    And at least those games had alot of huge battles most of the time.
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  12. Post #52
    Head over heels in love with Pudding~
    Dennab
    January 2012
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    I had almost the exact same thing except it was Russia and Canada vs the US with most of NATO eventually joining the Russian side. And the main characters were a Russian conscript and a Canadian soldier.
    I had weapons and everything listed down as well as perks - calling them skills.

    The most memorable one was Fast Hands

    "Your secret has granted you faster reloading!"
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  13. Post #53
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    First off I disagree with your opinion that Call of Duty is shit. Every release since MW2 has broken consecutive entertainment launch records, and the games average very well in terms of reviews (Modern Warfare 3 is currently at an 88 with 81 critical reviews). As games you might not like them and that's your opinion (I really rather don't believe MW3 deserves it's metacritic rating) but as a product it's impossible to say that it's "shit", when the numbers so clearly show that it isn't.

    Secondly, your hypothesis is just completely untrue. The monumental success of games like Skyrim, Minecraft, The Witcher 2, and even if you want to compare games of it's own genre, Battlefield 3, show that the industry is only getting better. Sure every once in awhile you get a game that tries to ride CoD's coattails and mostly fails (Crysis 2 multiplayer component, Homefront) but this isn't Activisions or Infinity Wards fault. This is the fault of developers and publishers of those games. The negligible downside of a few "CoD clones" coming out every year is completely overtaken by the fact that every time an actual CoD title releases, it injects thousands of new gamers and millions of dollars directly into the industry.
    Since are sales numbers or critic reviews used as evidence to the quality of a game?

    Call of Duty is terrible. I think what you are getting confused with is that a lot of people think Modern Warfare (1) was a very good game (Which is why its still massively played competitively), Call of Duty has gone to shit since then because they have essentially built upon a game then re-released it as a full package a whopping 3 times at a full game price while only adding marginal amounts of content (There's a year between each CoD, it takes months and months to actually prepare and transport the millions and millions of copies after the game is done, which means they only have about 8-9 months to add a bit of extra content and make some minor changes engine/interface. Saying this, the game still sells so well, why?

    Because its target audience (10-20 year old console players) think that they must buy each new CoD because they like playing the last one but everyone else will be playing the new one so they will have to get it too.
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  14. Post #54
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    No thanks, WWII has been done to death. However, I think Russia is a little tired of being the bad guy. How about we just stop making any Call of Duty titles in their current form. Every consequent release hurts the gaming industry more and more.

    Edited:
    I would however look forward to a refreshing reboot by a non-activision affiliated company a few years from now.
    I would like to get a Nazi edition of CoD.

    Edited:

    First off I disagree with your opinion that Call of Duty is shit. Every release since MW2 has broken consecutive entertainment launch records, and the games average very well in terms of reviews (Modern Warfare 3 is currently at an 88 with 81 critical reviews). As games you might not like them and that's your opinion (I really rather don't believe MW3 deserves it's metacritic rating) but as a product it's impossible to say that it's "shit", when the numbers so clearly show that it isn't.
    Just because something sells good doesn't really say much about the game itself.

    A smelly diaper can make launch records if it's marketed well enough.
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  15. Post #55
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    Since are sales numbers or critic reviews used as evidence to the quality of a game?
    I never said it did. In fact I actually went out of my way to specifically say that there is no correlation. The key point of my statement was that while your opinion of a game can be that it's shit, there are clearly people that disagree, and these people include millions of gamers and dozens of influential, profession video game reviewers. If it was so shit (again, as a product, not as a game) then it wouldn't sell as well nor bring in the great reviews it does. I'm not saying it's a great game; I'm saying it's a great product.

    Call of Duty is terrible.
    I think what you are getting confused with is that a lot of people think Modern Warfare (1) was a very good game
    Oh.
    Call of Duty has gone to shit since then because they have essentially built upon a game then re-released it as a full package a whopping 3 times at a full game price while only adding marginal amounts of content (There's a year between each CoD, it takes months and months to actually prepare and transport the millions and millions of copies after the game is done, which means they only have about 8-9 months to add a bit of extra content and make some minor changes engine/interface. Saying this, the game still sells so well, why?
    Several reasons; they are easy to play, hard to master games that anyone can pick up and be decent at. They feature a very addictive, endorphin-boosting progression features. They handle well in regards to gunplay and movement. Most of all people just (and this may come as a shock to you) enjoy playing them. The fact that the developers didn't put as much effort into level design as say Skyrim or Battlefield 3 doesn't really matter to Casual Gamer Joe who comes home from his nine-to-five and feels like shooting people for 30 minutes and doing it reasonably well without investing time.

    Because its target audience (10-20 year old console players) think that they must buy each new CoD because they like playing the last one but everyone else will be playing the new one so they will have to get it too.
    Well, yeah, that's typically how a series goes. People buy the sequels because they enjoy the games that came prior.
    They say "I liked Modern Warfare 2, and got several hundred hours of good times out of it" and figure they will achieve the same level of enjoyment from the sequel(s).

    Props for actually replying though.
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  16. Post #56
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    Several reasons; they are easy to play, hard to master games that anyone can pick up and be decent at. They feature a very addictive, endorphin-boosting progression features. They handle well in regards to gunplay and movement. Most of all people just (and this may come as a shock to you) enjoy playing them. The fact that the developers didn't put as much effort into level design as say Skyrim or Battlefield 3 doesn't really matter to Casual Gamer Joe who comes home from his nine-to-five and feels like shooting people for 30 minutes and doing it reasonably well without investing time.
    I don't know, but I guess I've missed this completely, because I didn't find MW1-3 multiplayer very addictive and endorphin-boosting or innovative. It has always felt like a prettier version of CSS. Though CSS had at least some feeling of teamwork at times, but MW just feels like I'm a part of a flock of mad cows with weapons taped around the sides.
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  17. Post #57
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    I was speaking generally. The guitar riffs, the shiny stuff on screen, getting plastered at the end of a match with all your accolades, people like that kind of thing. They like getting direct feedback and shinies for their performance. It's human nature.

    However, this
    but MW just feels like I'm a part of a flock of mad cows with weapons taped around the sides.
    Is a pretty accurate experience of Call of Duty multiplayer
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  18. Post #58
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    Until a new war pops up I'm pretty sure they're out of ideas unless they did WWI
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  19. Post #59
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    Be a WW1 British/German Trench Raider, Biplane Dogfighting Mission, A really fucked up revision of how the British forged the Zimmermann Telegram to get the US Involved in the war...

    You know... WW1 could defiantly make some interesting spec op missions.

  20. Post #60
    Memento audere semper- audaces fortuna iuvat.
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    Il bel paese!

  21. Post #61
    Hullu V3's Avatar
    October 2009
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    Until a new war pops up I'm pretty sure they're out of ideas unless they did WWI
    Call of Duty: Vintage Warfare

  22. Post #62
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    COD revolutionary war?
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  23. Post #63
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    CoD: Anglo-Zanzibar
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  24. Post #64
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    There are still tons of WWII battles that have yet to be touched by video games. Just stop doing D-Day, Stalingrad and Operation Market Garden and there can be fresh content.
    Or god help you we could play as, jee I don't know; THE GERMANS for once.
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  25. Post #65
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    Or god help you we could play as, jee I don't know; THE GERMANS for once.
    watch fox news flip a shit when it is found that neo-nazis play CoD: German Edition.

  26. Post #66
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    Only if they can find a creative way to get out of the trenches without pulling super secret special forces bullshit. I don't mind trenches and huge mobs of soldiers rushing a line every once and a while, but I'm worried a WWI game would be too much of that.
    There were tons of interesting non-trench actions in World War One. Naval battles, submarines, dogfights, the Gallipoli campaign...

    The assassination of the Arch Duke...

    It would not be a bad idea and would be a welcome break.

  27. Post #67
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    COD revolutionary war?
    Ultimate Merrikuh Edition

  28. Post #68
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    Ultimate Merrikuh Edition
    you play as Griggs' slave-soldier ancestor who beats up price's and soap's british army ancestor.
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  29. Post #69
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    No thanks, WWII has been done to death. However, I think Russia is a little tired of being the bad guy. How about we just stop making any Call of Duty titles in their current form. Every consequent release hurts the gaming industry more and more.

    Edited:
    I would however look forward to a refreshing reboot by a non-activision affiliated company a few years from now.
    WW2 was overdone by the more arcade-like shooters.

    I still want WW2 gems like Red Orchestra and Battlefield 1942. Battlefield 1943 just didn't fulfill my hunger for an updated 1942.

    There are some old and unique WW2 games out there like Hidden and Dangerous or Deadly Dozen, but I need more.

    Brothers in Arms did a WW2 game very well; the story is based on a true story which made it even more interesting and enjoyable. I want more WW2 games based on true stories. The old Call of Duty and Medal of Honors were very fun, but they were just generic WW2 era weapons thrown in to make a story, whereas Red Orchestra only uses weapons and things that existed for that specific battle.
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  30. Post #70
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    No thanks, WWII has been done to death. However, I think Russia is a little tired of being the bad guy. How about we just stop making any Call of Duty titles in their current form. Every consequent release hurts the gaming industry more and more.

    I would however look forward to a refreshing reboot by a non-activision affiliated company a few years from now.
    Thing is, for the modern shooter with a modern setting, there are only a few recent settings that've been done plenty; World War 2, Cold War, Vietnam, the Modern Crusad- I mean "War on Terror", and Tom Clancy's World War Three. However there are other locations and scenarios that don't seem to have been done as much in FPS yet, like being set in South America (conflicts in Val Verde) or East Asia.

    No idea why nobody's considered those places as settings for modern shooters...

  31. Post #71
    DID I MENTION I PLAY BANJO
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    Set in Italy during World War II, Call of Duty: Devil's Brigade would feature squad-based mechanics, exploration, and a grim story about a team of skillfully trained killing machines.
    Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway.
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  32. Post #72
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    Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway.
    That's Market Garden.
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  33. Post #73
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    Thing is, for the modern shooter with a modern setting, there are only a few recent settings that've been done plenty; World War 2, Cold War, Vietnam, the Modern Crusad- I mean "War on Terror", and Tom Clancy's World War Three. However there are other locations and scenarios that don't seem to have been done as much in FPS yet, like being set in South America (conflicts in Val Verde) or East Asia.

    No idea why nobody's considered those places as settings for modern shooters...
    East Asia is OFP2:DR (Crap game but fits the bill)

    South America? BFBC2

    Edited:

    That's Market Garden.
    which is in belgium/netherlands, just fyi (I know timmyvos knows that, just explaining it to other person)

  34. Post #74
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    COD needs a true Vietnam game, not the black ops craziness.
    Yeah. Because nothing breaks a historical game more than NO FUCKING HISTORICAL IMMERSION.

    M60E4s At Khe Sahn, KGB operatives with G11s, the list goes on (2011 Model Jeep with a TOW Missile at Khe Sahn).
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  35. Post #75
    Ah yes "opinions"
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    No thanks, WWII has been done to death.
    from now.
    The western front from 1942 - 1945 has been done to death (aka "'MURRICA SAVES THE DAY!!!!!!)

    The eastern front is largely untouched, and 1939 - 1941 is largely untouched.
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  36. Post #76
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    The western front from 1942 - 1945 has been done to death (aka "'MURRICA SAVES THE DAY!!!!!!)

    The eastern front is largely untouched, and 1939 - 1941 is largely untouched.
    russian pacific theatre

    black sea area

    commonwealth pacific theatre

    middle east (Iraqforce)

    East Africa (with mussolini)

    Invasion of Madagascar.

    Edited:

    Yeah. Because nothing breaks a historical game more than NO FUCKING HISTORICAL IMMERSION.

    M60E4s At Khe Sahn, KGB operatives with G11s, the list goes on (2011 Model Jeep with a TOW Missile at Khe Sahn).
    fortunate son playing a good couple months before it was even recorded.

    That's what really broke it for me.

  37. Post #77
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    There are some old and unique WW2 games out there like Hidden and Dangerous or Deadly Dozen, but I need more.
    We really need a Hidden and Dangerous reboot

    I still have it installed, maybe I'll go pretend to be SS while shooting up some german houses....

  38. Post #78
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    September 2009
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    No no no, let's go CoD : Civil Warfare.
    Assault class - Musket. Miss a shot, takes 2 whole minutes to reload.

  39. Post #79
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    No no no, let's go CoD : Civil Warfare.
    Assault class - Musket. Miss a shot, takes 2 whole minutes to reload.
    gatling guns would truly rape.

    Instead of just being used to glitch.

  40. Post #80
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    Until a new war pops up I'm pretty sure they're out of ideas unless they did WWI
    KOREAN WAR!

    Nobody remembers that 3 years long war.

    Untouched in Singleplayer games: The German (or the Axis overall) side- oh wait, the germans are the ''baddies''. Oh god how I hate history when written exaggeratingly by the victors.
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