1. Post #1
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    November 2008
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    The U.N. Threat to Internet Freedom

    On Feb. 27, a diplomatic process will begin in Geneva that could result in a new treaty giving the United Nations unprecedented powers over the Internet. Dozens of countries, including Russia and China, are pushing hard to reach this goal by year's end. As Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin said last June, his goal and that of his allies is to establish "international control over the Internet" through the International Telecommunication Union (ITU), a treaty-based organization under U.N. auspices.

    If successful, these new regulatory proposals would upend the Internet's flourishing regime, which has been in place since 1988. That year, delegates from 114 countries gathered in Australia to agree to a treaty that set the stage for dramatic liberalization of international telecommunications. This insulated the Internet from economic and technical regulation and quickly became the greatest deregulatory success story of all time.

    Since the Net's inception, engineers, academics, user groups and others have convened in bottom-up nongovernmental organizations to keep it operating and thriving through what is known as a "multi-stakeholder" governance model. This consensus-driven private-sector approach has been the key to the Net's phenomenal success.

    In 1995, shortly after it was privatized, only 16 million people used the Internet world-wide. By 2011, more than two billion were online—and that number is growing by as much as half a million every day. This explosive growth is the direct result of governments generally keeping their hands off the Internet sphere.

    Net access, especially through mobile devices, is improving the human condition more quickly—and more fundamentally—than any other technology in history. Nowhere is this more true than in the developing world, where unfettered Internet technologies are expanding economies and raising living standards.

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    rmers who live far from markets are now able to find buyers for their crops through their Internet-connected mobile devices without assuming the risks and expenses of traveling with their goods. Worried parents are able to go online to locate medicine for their sick children. And proponents of political freedom are better able to share information and organize support to break down the walls of tyranny.

    The Internet has also been a net job creator. A recent McKinsey study found that for every job disrupted by Internet connectivity, 2.6 new jobs are created. It is no coincidence that these wonderful developments blossomed as the Internet migrated further away from government control.

    Today, however, Russia, China and their allies within the 193 member states of the ITU want to renegotiate the 1988 treaty to expand its reach into previously unregulated areas. Reading even a partial list of proposals that could be codified into international law next December at a conference in Dubai is chilling:

    • Subject cyber security and data privacy to international control;

    • Allow foreign phone companies to charge fees for "international" Internet traffic, perhaps even on a "per-click" basis for certain Web destinations, with the goal of generating revenue for state-owned phone companies and government treasuries;

    • Impose unprecedented economic regulations such as mandates for rates, terms and conditions for currently unregulated traffic-swapping agreements known as "peering."

    • Establish for the first time ITU dominion over important functions of multi-stakeholder Internet governance entities such as the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers, the nonprofit entity that coordinates the .com and .org Web addresses of the world;

    • Subsume under intergovernmental control many functions of the Internet Engineering Task Force, the Internet Society and other multi-stakeholder groups that establish the engineering and technical standards that allow the Internet to work;

    • Regulate international mobile roaming rates and practices.

    Many countries in the developing world, including India and Brazil, are particularly intrigued by these ideas. Even though Internet-based technologies are improving billions of lives everywhere, some governments feel excluded and want more control.

    And let's face it, strong-arm regimes are threatened by popular outcries for political freedom that are empowered by unfettered Internet connectivity. They have formed impressive coalitions, and their efforts have progressed significantly.

    Merely saying "no" to any changes to the current structure of Internet governance is likely to be a losing proposition. A more successful strategy would be for proponents of Internet freedom and prosperity within every nation to encourage a dialogue among all interested parties, including governments and the ITU, to broaden the multi-stakeholder umbrella with the goal of reaching consensus to address reasonable concerns. As part of this conversation, we should underscore the tremendous benefits that the Internet has yielded for the developing world through the multi-stakeholder model.

    Upending this model with a new regulatory treaty is likely to partition the Internet as some countries would inevitably choose to opt out. A balkanized Internet would be devastating to global free trade and national sovereignty. It would impair Internet growth most severely in the developing world but also globally as technologists are forced to seek bureaucratic permission to innovate and invest. This would also undermine the proliferation of new cross-border technologies, such as cloud computing.

    A top-down, centralized, international regulatory overlay is antithetical to the architecture of the Net, which is a global network of networks without borders. No government, let alone an intergovernmental body, can make engineering and economic decisions in lightning-fast Internet time. Productivity, rising living standards and the spread of freedom everywhere, but especially in the developing world, would grind to a halt as engineering and business decisions become politically paralyzed within a global regulatory body.

    Any attempts to expand intergovernmental powers over the Internet—no matter how incremental or seemingly innocuous—should be turned back. Modernization and reform can be constructive, but not if the end result is a new global bureaucracy that departs from the multi-stakeholder model. Enlightened nations should draw a line in the sand against new regulations while welcoming reform that could include a nonregulatory role for the ITU.

    Pro-regulation forces are, thus far, much more energized and organized than those who favor the multi-stakeholder approach. Regulation proponents only need to secure a simple majority of the 193 member states to codify their radical and counterproductive agenda. Unlike the U.N. Security Council, no country can wield a veto in ITU proceedings. With this in mind, some estimate that approximately 90 countries could be supporting intergovernmental Net regulation—a mere seven short of a majority.

    While precious time ticks away, the U.S. has not named a leader for the treaty negotiation. We must awake from our slumber and engage before it is too late. Not only do these developments have the potential to affect the daily lives of all Americans, they also threaten freedom and prosperity across the globe.
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    Jesus fucking christ...
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  2. Post #2
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    February 2008
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    Come on...
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  3. Post #3
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    October 2008
    3,259 Posts
    if the un wants to do that

    die un
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  4. Post #4
    Garry doesn't deserve a penny of my money
    AzzyMaster's Avatar
    October 2008
    1,164 Posts
    I don't even know why governments think they can even touch the internet as they don't even own it, its done entirely by private companies.
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  5. Post #5
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    Sgt Doom's Avatar
    March 2005
    20,116 Posts
    Of course, because what the Internet really needs is for countries like Russia and China to have a say as to what is allowed on it.
    fuck off
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    2014 SH Pun Award Nominee
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    January 2009
    21,090 Posts
    I should better learn about this tor stuff.

    It might get handy soon enough.
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    October 2006
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    I'm starting to get sick of this Orwellian bullshit
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  8. Post #8
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    November 2011
    484 Posts
    God damnit, now the only place to get unrestricted internet access will be Gingrich's moon base.
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  9. Post #9
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    April 2007
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    how about no.
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  10. Post #10
    VengfulSoldier's Avatar
    March 2011
    1,744 Posts
    I'd rather have the UN doing it then the US or some other country.

    Especially since the UN runs slow as fuck with issues.

    Edited:

    I'm starting to get sick of this Orwellian bullshit
    Please use terms like that in their proper way.
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  11. Post #11
    Shiftyze's Avatar
    April 2011
    2,873 Posts
    What the fuck is even going on that is making all these ass cracks rampage over nothing? They just want that feel of control don't they?

    Fuck off.
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  12. Post #12
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    Dennab
    September 2010
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    Maybe some country on the security counsel will veto it...Nah
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    August 2007
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    I strongly despise the UN. They do some good things, sure, but the concept of sovereignty is completely alien to them.
    The internet deserves to be completely neutral. Nobody should have control over it.
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    September 2005
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    hahaha fuck you UN
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  15. Post #15
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    September 2005
    2,419 Posts
    The UN??? Why do so many fuckers want to ruin the internet so much?
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    Uncanny.
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  17. Post #17
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    March 2011
    1,744 Posts
    I strongly despise the UN. They do some good things, sure, but the concept of sovereignty is completely alien to them.
    The internet deserves to be completely neutral. Nobody should have control over it.
    Meanwhile a majority of servers are under specific country control.

    Totally coverings guys.

    I mean treating it like its own country in the UN doesn't make it sovereign.
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  18. Post #18
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    April 2005
    6,666 Posts
    its the Illuminati man oh shiiittt
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  19. Post #19
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    October 2010
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    Russia, China and their allies
    Yeah, I don't think the world should take internet advice from these guys.
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  20. Post #20
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    November 2010
    928 Posts

    WHY
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  21. Post #21
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    April 2009
    829 Posts
    One more reason to vote for Ron Paul
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  23. Post #23
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    April 2011
    4,017 Posts
    Great way to force groups to creat things to protect there freedoms.
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  24. Post #24
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    April 2005
    4,854 Posts
    Hey I've got an idea

    Let's give complete control of the internet to EU since they seem to be the only (inter)governmental body that has any goddamn clue how internet should be handled
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    September 2011
    795 Posts
    The world powers are playing with the fire of freedom at this point. People are going to react in a violent manner.
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  27. Post #27
    UNATCO?
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  28. Post #28
    Ah yes "opinions"
    Jackald's Avatar
    October 2005
    16,915 Posts
    Fucking hell, governments sure are trying hard to take away everyone's internet freedom aren't they...
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  29. Post #29
    As a wise man once said: Never ask Fatfatfatty for computer advice
    Fatfatfatty's Avatar
    March 2009
    12,899 Posts
    What the fuck UN?

    I mean, seriously? WHAT? Who thought this even sounded like a good idea?

    I'll be on my way to the moon soon enough.
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  30. Post #30
    Did you heard a story about the deep web?


    Yea.
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  31. Post #31
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    June 2008
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    You better double check your systems...
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  32. Post #32
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    January 2005
    1,222 Posts
    How can I protest against this? Any petitions open yet? Any involved representatives I can contact, as a UK citizen? I've had just about enough of this foolishness.
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    One of these days, I'm going to cut you into little pieces.
    AJisAwesome15's Avatar
    May 2011
    5,892 Posts
    has the un done anything productive in a while?
    i'm seriously asking, i haven't been following news

  34. Post #34
    Cuntsman's Avatar
    November 2010
    928 Posts
    has the un done anything productive in a while?
    i'm seriously asking, i haven't been following news
    Libya
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  35. Post #35
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    March 2008
    7,680 Posts
    Not the U.N itself that is doing this - Some of the member countries (Including Russia and China, for obvious reasons) want to push it through the U.N.
    It doesn't make resolutions itself, countries put forward motions and have to gain support from others for it to pass.
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  36. Post #36
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    June 2010
    14,634 Posts
    Hey I've got an idea

    Let's give complete control of the internet to EU since they seem to be the only (inter)governmental body that has any goddamn clue how internet should be handled
    Or just let nobody control the internet. Its not the governments to control.
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  37. Post #37
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    December 2011
    2,782 Posts
    I strongly despise the UN. They do some good things, sure, but the concept of sovereignty is completely alien to them.
    The internet deserves to be completely neutral. Nobody should have control over it.
    Oh hey look, you didn't read the article.

    And neither did a lot of you blaming the UN for this.
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  38. Post #38
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    July 2009
    18,467 Posts
    This is going to start a small war eventually.
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  39. Post #39
    Governor Goblin's Avatar
    December 2011
    2,782 Posts
    has the un done anything productive in a while?
    i'm seriously asking, i haven't been following news
    Every Assistance and Interim Force mission. Every humanitarian aid mission going on at this very second.

    the United Nations is always at work.

    Edited:

    How can I protest against this? Any petitions open yet? Any involved representatives I can contact, as a UK citizen? I've had just about enough of this foolishness.
    No because your country isn't doing it.

    Edited:

    One more reason to vote for Ron Paul
    I didn't know Ron Paul was a prominent anti ITU politician in Russia.
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  40. Post #40
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    March 2008
    7,680 Posts
    Oh hey look, you didn't read the article.

    And neither did a lot of you blaming the UN for this.
    Exactly - The UN does not make any resolutions, it just facilitates the ability for other countries to put forward resolutions to be passed. The power lies completely with each of the member states.
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