1. Post #1
    bbc
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    January 2011
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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/technology-17111044
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  2. Post #2
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    September 2007
    16,218 Posts
    wtf we overcharge for texting and this shit happens

    fuck you 3rd party app makers i want to get all the money!
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  3. Post #3
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    January 2009
    2,641 Posts
    They could charge whatever they want (hell, charge four times and they'd be losing $55.6 bn), either way they are making a fortune on something that is hella cheap.
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    garry's Avatar
    September 2001
    12,398 Posts
    It seems ridiculous in this day and age to charge people 10p to send a message to someone else. They should have seen this coming years ago and just made it free to attract people to their network.
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  5. Post #5
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    July 2005
    17,339 Posts
    Jesus, it always pisses me off when I see all these businessmen who either have their heads in the clouds or are too arrogant to realise what's going on.
    [release]Industry experts say operators can offset any losses through effective costing plans by mobile networks.[/release]

    Yeah, you believe that. I mean, the music industry stopped the walkman didn't it? She'll be right, mate. She'll be right.

  6. Post #6
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    April 2010
    3,001 Posts
    Texting actually costs jack shit so they shouldn't be charging for it in the first place.
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  7. Post #7
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    Dennab
    June 2005
    15,081 Posts
    waa waa waa I'm no longer competitive quick someone write some legislation
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  8. Post #8
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    May 2011
    514 Posts
    Great, more "potential revenue" shit.

  9. Post #9
    Icedshot's Avatar
    April 2010
    2,340 Posts
    Quick, ban free messaging KILLING AMERICAN JOBS
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  10. Post #10
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    April 2007
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    So, a company that made this service, is now losing money because of another, better and cheaper service that is being offered.

    Isn't that how the world works?
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  11. Post #11
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    November 2011
    2,657 Posts
    people dying caused us to lose revenue!!

    we must outlaw people dying!! death is too good of a competitor to defeat!!
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  12. Post #12
    JohnnyOnFlame's Avatar
    February 2011
    2,198 Posts
    (Potential Revenue-Revenue) is NOT Lost Revenue.
    Also, my Carrier charges 15c (dolar) for infinite SMS a day, 15c for infinite internet a day.
    Needless to say, I use a fuckton of SMS/Internet.

  13. Post #13
    Hruhf's Avatar
    September 2007
    585 Posts
    Well my provider provides free texts to people on the same network and the only people I text are on the same network so I'm happy.

  14. Post #14
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    September 2008
    4,115 Posts
    I remember hearing something once that each text message sent costs 99 times more than it cost the company to actually send the message.

  15. Post #15
    Dr. Fishtastic's Avatar
    February 2010
    7,911 Posts
    Text messages are to phone providers what Sodas are to fast-food joints. Both are ridiculously cheap and are usually charged 1000%+ markup

  16. Post #16
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    May 2008
    18,975 Posts
    people dying caused us to lose revenue!!

    we must outlaw people dying!! death is too good of a competitor to defeat!!
    death has a monopoly on the dying industry

  17. Post #17
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    November 2007
    1,410 Posts
    Lost revenue but like hell will they ever lose profit. SMS markup is in the thousands of %... ridiculous.

  18. Post #18
    kill yourself
    Protocol7's Avatar
    June 2006
    25,902 Posts
    They give people internet on their phones. Did they honestly not see this coming?
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  19. Post #19
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    July 2007
    6,940 Posts
    ..Boo hoo phone companies. Lemme go tune up the world's smallest violin real quick.


    They should have seen this coming years ago and just made it free to attract people to their network.
    That's pretty standard here in America. I've got free unlimited texting and have had it for years. Unlimited free calls, too, so long as those calls go to Verizon phones.
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  20. Post #20
    DeanWinchester's Avatar
    May 2010
    3,679 Posts
    Notice how the article implies that this "loss" doesn't take into account the revenue made from mobile internet plans, which obviously went up.
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  21. Post #21
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    May 2009
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    I fucking hate when companies think potential revenue and lost revenue are the same thing.

    Thats like mcdonalds saying they lose money when people only buy a sandwich instead of the whole meal.
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    December 2007
    4,893 Posts
    Good
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  23. Post #23
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    July 2010
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    It seems ridiculous in this day and age to charge people 10p to send a message to someone else. They should have seen this coming years ago and just made it free to attract people to their network.
    I loathe that text messaging costs any non-negligible amount of money at all
    it's not like there were infrastructure costs or any other overhead costs associated with telecommunications
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  24. Post #24
    churboi austin
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    October 2007
    12,967 Posts
    my texting is $10 a month unlimited, though i don't text that much any more seeing as i'm in college.

  25. Post #25
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    October 2009
    5,162 Posts
    ..Boo hoo phone companies. Lemme go tune up the world's smallest violin real quick.

    That's pretty standard here in America. I've got free unlimited texting and have had it for years. Unlimited free calls, too, so long as those calls go to Verizon phones.
    Even then we get raped up the ass with data fees even if we have "unlimited" plans.

  26. Post #26
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    May 2010
    7,461 Posts
    It seems ridiculous in this day and age to charge people 10p to send a message to someone else. They should have seen this coming years ago and just made it free to attract people to their network.
    True, but there are some great deals for me and people who text a lot. Even though Orange annoy the hell out of me now, 5 a month for unlimited texts is a nice package.

  27. Post #27
    I don't use theses social messaging apps because:

    1. Not all of my friends have smartphones
    2. I'm sure that even if they did, the chances of all 100 or so installing the exact same one is relatively remote.

    I'd rather pay my $15 a month for unlimited and be done with it.

  28. Post #28
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    Dennab
    May 2010
    2,809 Posts
    I don't understand how they are losing money could someone explain?

    I mean don't these apps use internet and the phone companies charge shitloads for internet, so how are they losing money?

  29. Post #29
    Psyke89's Avatar
    January 2010
    650 Posts
    Free and better service gaining ground to worse and paid service.
    Film at 11.

  30. Post #30
    Please waste more of your money changing this title again.
    Gmod4ever's Avatar
    August 2005
    6,778 Posts
    I don't understand how they are losing money could someone explain?

    I mean don't these apps use internet and the phone companies charge shitloads for internet, so how are they losing money?
    While Internet is usually more costly than texts, on a per-use basis, consider this.

    Let's assume there is a Network A, which charges $60 a month for unlimited Internet usage, and $0.15 per text message using their service.

    It would take 400 text messages, at $0.15 per message, to equal the same as the $60 for unlimited Internet. This is over a span of a business month, typically 30 days. This averages out to 13 texts a day. I don't personally own a phone with texting capabilities, but I know people who do - and a single texted conversation takes up about 10 texts, BY ITSELF, if not more. So 13 texts a day is a number easily achieved, and easily surpassed. What's more, according to a 2010 article on MSNBC.com, The Average American Teenager Sends and Receives 3,339 Texts Every Month. This would translate, at $0.15 a text, to $500 a month.

    Once a person begins to text more than 400 times a month, it becomes cheaper to pay the $60 a month for unlimited Internet, and use a free-to-use texting app (like Facebook) on that Internet.

    Assuming that Customer A sends 3339 texts a month, then the amount of POTENTIAL REVENUE Network A is losing to this customer is $440 a month, assuming Customer A uses the $60/month Internet as opposed to the $0.15/text plan.

    And then this isn't even taking into account that most networks charge higher fees for texts that go long distances, and even more for international texts, whereas the unlimited Internet plan wouldn't be affected by distance.

    That's where their potential revenue loss comes from.
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  31. Post #31
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    Dennab
    May 2010
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    While Internet is usually more costly than texts, on a per-use basis, consider this.

    Let's assume there is a Network A, which charges $60 a month for unlimited Internet usage, and $0.15 per text message using their service.

    It would take 400 text messages, at $0.15 per message, to equal the same as the $60 for unlimited Internet. This is over a span of a business month, typically 30 days. This averages out to 13 texts a day. I don't personally own a phone with texting capabilities, but I know people who do - and a single texted conversation takes up about 10 texts, BY ITSELF, if not more. So 13 texts a day is a number easily achieved, and easily surpassed. What's more, according to a 2010 article on MSNBC.com, The Average American Teenager Sends and Receives 3,339 Texts Every Month. This would translate, at $0.15 a text, to $500 a month.

    Once a person begins to text more than 400 times a month, it becomes cheaper to pay the $60 a month for unlimited Internet, and use a free-to-use texting app (like Facebook) on that Internet.

    Assuming that Customer A sends 3339 texts a month, then the amount of POTENTIAL REVENUE Network A is losing to this customer is $440 a month, assuming Customer A uses the $60/month Internet as opposed to the $0.15/text plan.

    And then this isn't even taking into account that most networks charge higher fees for texts that go long distances, and even more for international texts, whereas the unlimited Internet plan wouldn't be affected by distance.

    That's where their potential revenue loss comes from.
    Now I'm tempted to get internet.

    But If you spend 10 on Orange you get thousands of free texts and 50MB of free internet..so now I'm confused still.

  32. Post #32
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    October 2007
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    What a shame ;_;

    I am truely sorry for your lots
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  33. Post #33
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    Dennab
    May 2010
    2,809 Posts
    Now I'm tempted to get internet.

    But If you spend 10 on Orange you get thousands of free texts and 50MB of free internet..so now I'm confused still.
    Just found out if I get an Orange extra online I can spend 5 and get 250MB for a month, I shall try that from now on.

  34. Post #34
    So, a company that made this service, is now losing money because of another, better and cheaper service that is being offered.

    Isn't that how the world works?
    Leave it to the American government to fix the "Free market"

    They always do the right thing.

  35. Post #35
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    January 2008
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    Well currently I'm on Giffgaff in the UK, so if I top up 10 pound I get unlimited free texts (properly unlimited), unlimited internet (properly unlimited) and 250 mins of phone calls (hardly used). So I still use SMS all the time. And trust me, I send a lot of texts.
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  36. Post #36
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    August 2010
    22,757 Posts
    Why charge so much anyway for texts? You're sending 140 bytes! That's right, bytes, you read that right. Not kilobytes, bytes.
    It's kind of disgusting. Good thing I have a cheapo phone plan.
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  37. Post #37
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    July 2010
    281 Posts
    Instead of "lost networks $13bn" it should be "saved the consumers $13bn".
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  38. Post #38
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    October 2008
    10,024 Posts
    Can't wait for Ofcom to jump all over this shit and make texts free for everyone.

  39. Post #39
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    July 2006
    5,757 Posts
    I use the facebook chat app thing instead of texting nowadays, it's a lot faster. It makes no difference to the phone company though so I'm on contract and I'm still technically paying for the 3000 texts a month that I never use.

  40. Post #40
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    July 2006
    2,631 Posts
    I can see why, at one point i was spending about 5 (50 texts) a day on credit just to text people. Switched to a contract with unlimited texts for 10 a month lol