1. Post #81
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    garychencool's Avatar
    October 2010
    13,395 Posts
    I must clarify that my school has a program that views students screens as long as they are connected to the internet.
    Uninstall it.

  2. Post #82
    BBgamer720's Avatar
    November 2011
    482 Posts
    Uninstall it.
    My school as one as well, called 'AB Tutor Control'. You're not able to uninstall it because you're a limited user and most options are turned off (Heck, even tabbed browsing is disabled in IE8).

  3. Post #83
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    garychencool's Avatar
    October 2010
    13,395 Posts
    What I've done is run Linux (Ubuntu, BackTrack 5, you can use whatever linux flav you want) off a USB, booted it, went through Program Files and deleted the whole folder.

    GG NetSupport, which didn't really work.

  4. Post #84
    samuel2213's Avatar
    May 2011
    2,445 Posts
    My school has an incredibly stupid block. It blocks websites for the reason "mobile phone", it blocks every .wikia link with the reason "wiki" and it blocks almost everything else ever for either games, blogs, or personal pages

  5. Post #85
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    Arachnidus's Avatar
    July 2007
    7,544 Posts
    I say, do the hell away with all the filters. Okay, well, not all of them- obviously, virus infested sites should be done away with, but the important thing to remember is that most people have smartphones, now. At least, in my school, I'm not certain it's the same universally, but in NYC, that's how it is with almost all of the schools I know of.

    Any Android device, iPhone or Blackberry can access Facebook or any social networking site. Android phones can get Flash sites down. Any phone, period, can send text messages. People don't need laptops or school computers to go online. All these filters serve to do is hinder access to legitimately usable sites.

  6. Post #86
    Tony's Avatar
    September 2011
    733 Posts
    I say, do the hell away with all the filters. Okay, well, not all of them- obviously, virus infested sites should be done away with, but the important thing to remember is that most people have smartphones, now. At least, in my school, I'm not certain it's the same universally, but in NYC, that's how it is with almost all of the schools I know of.

    Any Android device, iPhone or Blackberry can access Facebook or any social networking site. Android phones can get Flash sites down. Any phone, period, can send text messages. People don't need laptops or school computers to go online. All these filters serve to do is hinder access to legitimately usable sites.
    Just because they can go on whatever site on their handheld device doesn't mean that it should be allowed on all desktop systems as well.

    In classes, if a student has a laptop out, they've probably got it out because they're meant to do work on it, whether it be typing up an essay, doing some programming, some internet research, whatever. If sites aren't blocked then they can accidentally head onto virus infected sites etc. Blocking Facebook and stuff i'm on the fence, if it's blocked then people will probably just use it on another device like you said, but not everyone owns a smartphone, and the blocking might make a few kids actually get back on track and do the work.

    At the end of the day, the blocking needs to be done by someone who actually knows what they're doing, i.e someone who isn't a total retard and blocks anything with a certain phrase in it, which easily restricts legitimate sites - sites need to be blocked on a per-URL basis. It means a lot of sites will probably get missed, but all the common ones would get caught, and if you do have someone who knows what they're doing, and has a bit of time, they could block most stuff apart from the most obscure ones.

  7. Post #87
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    thelurker1234's Avatar
    June 2011
    5,304 Posts
    What I've done is run Linux (Ubuntu, BackTrack 5, you can use whatever linux flav you want) off a USB, booted it, went through Program Files and deleted the whole folder.

    GG NetSupport, which didn't really work.
    '

    What if they walk around and look at what people are doing, too.

  8. Post #88
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    garychencool's Avatar
    October 2010
    13,395 Posts
    Just because they can go on whatever site on their handheld device doesn't mean that it should be allowed on all desktop systems as well.

    In classes, if a student has a laptop out, they've probably got it out because they're meant to do work on it, whether it be typing up an essay, doing some programming, some internet research, whatever. If sites aren't blocked then they can accidentally head onto virus infected sites etc. Blocking Facebook and stuff i'm on the fence, if it's blocked then people will probably just use it on another device like you said, but not everyone owns a smartphone, and the blocking might make a few kids actually get back on track and do the work.

    At the end of the day, the blocking needs to be done by someone who actually knows what they're doing, i.e someone who isn't a total retard and blocks anything with a certain phrase in it, which easily restricts legitimate sites - sites need to be blocked on a per-URL basis. It means a lot of sites will probably get missed, but all the common ones would get caught, and if you do have someone who knows what they're doing, and has a bit of time, they could block most stuff apart from the most obscure ones.
    Implying that people using laptops are using it for work and people with phones are texting, social networking.

  9. Post #89
    Shounic's Avatar
    May 2010
    2,112 Posts
    I think that filters are okay to block say, porn and harmful sites that prevent the school getting into trouble and etc. But I think they should just leave it up to the student's responsibility to decide if he wants to fuck up his academics or man up and get a good degree.

  10. Post #90
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    garychencool's Avatar
    October 2010
    13,395 Posts
    '

    What if they walk around and look at what people are doing, too.
    you see now, the removal of such software is not widespread

  11. Post #91
    how can you love some-one if you can't eat a brick
    phytocide's Avatar
    July 2011
    1,320 Posts
    Most sites are blocked for both students and teachers using some blanket filtering proxy. Sites in all sorts of categories are blocked. I think it's good for students, because it makes it difficult for them to mess around on facebook, etc. However, in the past few years, everyone's gotten smartphones, so they use them to get off-task. It's an inconvenience for teachers, though. Most of the time they want to show an educationally relevant video on YouTube, but it's blocked.

    I fixed this problem for them by setting up some tools for teachers to selectively forward their internet traffic through my server over ssh, the admins don't see a thing.

  12. Post #92
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    garychencool's Avatar
    October 2010
    13,395 Posts
    Sites blocked by a firewall, blocks sites, proxies and such, of course it doesn't block "file locker" sites.

    VPNs and Tunneling works all the time.

  13. Post #93
    Gimped Bubba's Avatar
    May 2008
    18 Posts
    Not even tor browser works in my school

    fuck me

  14. Post #94
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    garychencool's Avatar
    October 2010
    13,395 Posts
    Not even tor browser works in my school

    fuck me
    blocked as in not allowed to run the program or it cannot connect to the dark net?

  15. Post #95
    how can you love some-one if you can't eat a brick
    phytocide's Avatar
    July 2011
    1,320 Posts
    Not even tor browser works in my school

    fuck me
    Just connect to a bridge, look in the settings for tor.

  16. Post #96
    Creeper's Avatar
    July 2010
    1,562 Posts
    We spend our time at school testing for filter rejection reasons.

    This page was blocked for the following reasons: Education. Well okay then....

  17. Post #97
    Bus Driver
    Demache's Avatar
    December 2009
    7,914 Posts
    We spend our time at school testing for filter rejection reasons.

    This page was blocked for the following reasons: Education. Well okay then....
    I remember I found a site blocked for "Hacking". It just had a bunch of Java samples and tutorials.

  18. Post #98
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    Ac!dL3ak's Avatar
    July 2005
    6,060 Posts
    I normally resolve this issue by bringing my own computer to school; since our high school is right next to the college, we can just use their internets (since the students at my school are technically college students too), but it gets annoying how they block anything and anything just because it's not strictly academically related.

    Hell, my school had even blocked google for some unknown reason. You can't log in and out of gmail either (which actually fucks the students up since the college uses gmail for their email). They even installed a stupid wireless thing on all the laptops that are supposed to make you stay on the high school's internets, but that's gone down the shithole when the students realized that when it asked 'Are you on (school name here)'s network?', you click 'No.'

  19. Post #99
    Ah... tits!
    sam6420's Avatar
    August 2009
    4,309 Posts
    I'm in school and I feel as though it's necessary, my school has it and facepunch is blocked, yeah it pisses me off, but I feel as though the other kids would abuse the privileges and waste bandwidth. Plus there's TOR.

  20. Post #100
    Zestence's Avatar
    January 2008
    392 Posts
    My old school had it the wrong way around. All traffic was allowed in school internal network, but pretty much everything except port 80 was blocked in the dorms. So for the three years I spent there I was only able to play multiplayer games when I went home for a weekend. Of course nowadays one could just pick up a 3G wireless stick for 10/month, but back then the only option was a GPRS 56k that would cost buttloads to use before it even makes a connection....

    So I left my personal PC logged in overnight in the classroom with the monitor turned off and SSH'd my shit through the school network. Was not allowed, but I didn't really care.

  21. Post #101
    Dennab
    December 2009
    6,575 Posts
    We get M86 filter which has blocked tons of proxies. But that's nothing Ultrasurf can't bypass.

    If you need to get through a filter look up Ultrasurf. Put it on your USB and you're good to go.

  22. Post #102

    November 2010
    510 Posts
    I don't think it's a big deal. Because really, the only time you ever need to do a significant amount of online research AT SCHOOL is in University, and they don't block anything (except maybe porn? Not like I'm going to check). You only run into the blocks legitimately maybe 5% of the time, and it really doesn't hinder you in any way. Besides, you can wait to dick around on facebook and forums till you get home.

  23. Post #103
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    Demache's Avatar
    December 2009
    7,914 Posts
    I don't think it's a big deal. Because really, the only time you ever need to do a significant amount of online research AT SCHOOL is in University, and they don't block anything (except maybe porn? Not like I'm going to check). You only run into the blocks legitimately maybe 5% of the time, and it really doesn't hinder you in any way. Besides, you can wait to dick around on facebook and forums till you get home.
    Our university doesn't block anything. Pretty much anything goes. If you want to dick about with the computer, then so be it, they get your money either way.

  24. Post #104
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    doomy's Avatar
    March 2010
    85 Posts
    At my old school, alot of things that could be useful to schoolwork was blocked. So we used proxies etc.
    Anyway, school shut down and we transfered.

    So at this new school we got our own unrestricted wireless, which is pretty much heaven. All I do now is spoof my MAC.

    As for debating, blocking social media is harmful in my opinion as it's for many people the main way to conversate and share knowledge. But porn and stuff? Whatever.

  25. Post #105
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    garychencool's Avatar
    October 2010
    13,395 Posts
    I'm in school and I feel as though it's necessary, my school has it and facepunch is blocked, yeah it pisses me off, but I feel as though the other kids would abuse the privileges and waste bandwidth. Plus there's TOR.
    I'm not wasting it, I'm making good use of it

  26. Post #106
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    FlakTheMighty's Avatar
    July 2010
    7,492 Posts
    The filter my school district has is a bullshit one that blocks stuff that we have every right view, they block stuff for humor and stuff for "Press Websites." I kind of understand the first one but not the second at all, I needed some websites for an assignment but no, it was blocked because it was a press website. So they do tend to be more harmful than helpful.

    Edited:

    We have a block on "Tasteless" websites. Who the fuck decides what is tasteless.
    Oh and this too.

  27. Post #107
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    superstepa's Avatar
    June 2009
    8,935 Posts
    Necessary in schools
    While I am often getting enraged by our school filters, I understand that I will only play games and browse internet without them

  28. Post #108
    Naci's Sidekick
    FlakTheMighty's Avatar
    July 2010
    7,492 Posts
    We get M86 filter which has blocked tons of proxies. But that's nothing Ultrasurf can't bypass.

    If you need to get through a filter look up Ultrasurf. Put it on your USB and you're good to go.
    Oh god this is what we have, it's terrible isn't it?

  29. Post #109
    The Sandiest of them All!
    Lv100Garchomp's Avatar
    October 2009
    169 Posts
    Well here the filters are strict AND they disallowed running .exe's (blocked it from starting)

  30. Post #110
    SnakeEater91's Avatar
    January 2012
    113 Posts
    We have a block on "Tasteless" websites. Who the fuck decides what is tasteless.
    We have those too. They mark it as "Obscene/Tasteless".

  31. Post #111
    Naci's Sidekick
    FlakTheMighty's Avatar
    July 2010
    7,492 Posts
    Ha this proxy actually works, it's kind of nice to be able to view Facepunch when I've got nothing to do.

  32. Post #112
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    Ac!dL3ak's Avatar
    July 2005
    6,060 Posts
    our school does url blocking; if the url contains 'cock', 'boobs', or any other word like that, it gets blocked.

    it ALSO means urls containing 'exe' get blocked, too. I haven't tried 'bat', though.

  33. Post #113
    Dennab
    September 2011
    1,790 Posts
    I think it's good, but if a student is trying to pull a picture off of google and they get blocked (many good pictures do get blocked) they should have an optional built-in admin override code that a teacher acquires when the class goes into the computer lab so the student can get said image after he/she explains what the image is.
    this this this a million times this

    I am in art, and when I need a reference picture, it needs to be in high resolution. When I click on the "more sizes" button, 90% of the god damn time the non-thumbnail ones are blocked under 'personal/blogs'

    Edited:

    Completely agree with you, if one kid decides he doesn't care about his work then why should everyone else who are using the net responsibly have to suffer.

    Because no child left behind / american socialism. It's pretty bullshit and hurts kids who are more advanced than others, seeing as how we spend next to nothing on the advanced education, blowing millions upon millions on dumb kids who will end up in burger king anyway. That's not a recipe for success and is why we are falling behind technologically.

    Semi related, I am seriously considering taking a program that will let me learn at a school in Germany for a whole year, think it's worth it

  34. Post #114
    Impact1986's Avatar
    December 2011
    1,157 Posts
    It depends on how much they want to block. If they want to block content that is clearly only for 18 year olds or is illegal anyway, yeah, block it. Filtering doesn't mean they will suddenly block everything.

  35. Post #115
    JamesRaynor's Avatar
    May 2011
    393 Posts
    I'm posting from a school computer right now!


    No, not effective in the least, people who are really determined can get around it and it blocks plenty of legitmite uses. When I was needing to look up research information or pictures for a project like 75% of them are blocked outright despite being school appropiate. Apparently at my school district there is NO STANDARD of what is blocked and what is not blocked. Hence why TVTropes is blocked but not me posting right here.

  36. Post #116
    RAPISTS ARE OPPRESSED
    mobrockers2's Avatar
    April 2011
    12,403 Posts
    A filter was only implemented three years ago at my high school, and it only blocked porn (and proxy's). The college I attend atm doesn't block anything except for any program that tries to open a port that has been closed (aka anything that isn't installed on the desktops) which is pretty normal I guess.

  37. Post #117
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    Disotrtion's Avatar
    February 2012
    2,382 Posts
    I got a filter at my high school. It blocks every advertisement, and most websites. But not Youtube.

  38. Post #118
    SpartanApples's Avatar
    December 2009
    8,483 Posts
    I think it's really funny what some of the sites are blocked for. I've tried to go on perfectlty normal sites and they're been blocked for 'Danish Pornography'.

  39. Post #119
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    WitheredGryphon's Avatar
    July 2011
    1,361 Posts
    My school:

    Blocks all access to the control panel, "run" feature, command prompt, etc.

    Installs PowerShell in a Windows Update. Doesn't even attempt to block it. sigh. They gave students one of the most powerful tools on a computer.

    Side story:

    I was messing around in Power Shell during speech because we didn't have anything to do. I ran

    help ping

    Which lists like, 50 different options with ping. Afterwards I ran

    ping -t 127.0.0.1

    And let it sit. The screen on Power Shell was sliding upwards due to the ping results. My teacher looked over, freaked out, thought I was hacking the school's computers and nearly sent me to the principal's office.

    ---

    Also, instead of calling it anything else, if it's got adult content on it, the filter just says "Porn".

  40. Post #120
    Dennab
    September 2011
    1,790 Posts
    I can't believe that "tasteless"filter bullshit I mean wow