1. Post #5001
    vui
    vui's Avatar
    February 2012
    34 Posts
    Just won a 4v5, me being in the handicapped team.

    feelsgoodman.jpg
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  2. Post #5002
    The Pain Train's a-comin! Woo woo!
    OluapPlayer's Avatar
    August 2010
    1,124 Posts
    Tried to play All Random with bots just for shits and giggles.

    Bots apparently don't know how to play Lycan or Dark Seer. I mean they REALLY don't. The Lycan bot would literally throw himself into our towers, doing 0 effort to survive. The Dark Seer attacked normally at least, but both were incapable of buying any items except for Town Portal Scrolls or using any abilities at all.
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  3. Post #5003
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    butters757's Avatar
    December 2008
    3,593 Posts
    Tried to play All Random with bots just for shits and giggles.

    Bots apparently don't know how to play Lycan or Dark Seer. I mean they REALLY don't. The Lycan bot would literally throw himself into our towers, doing 0 effort to survive. The Dark Seer attacked normally at least, but both were incapable of buying any items except for Town Portal Scrolls or using any abilities at all.
    There's only like 12 heroes that bots can play.
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  4. Post #5004
    The Janitor's Avatar
    April 2009
    806 Posts
    Already gave it to the the guy who quoted my post :P

    I'll raffle another key if my friend doesn't want it
    I'd really appreciate if I could be in it. I've been trying to secure a key for my friend as we used to play semi-competitive original Dota together but haven't had much luck yet.
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  5. Post #5005
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    Pappa Smurf's Avatar
    December 2006
    658 Posts
    Earthshaker with blink is one of the most frightening things in dota if he is not on your team.
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  6. Post #5006
    RagerTrader's Avatar
    September 2011
    1,708 Posts
    Earthshaker with blink is one of the most frightening things in dota if he is not on your team.
    Not if you have any sort of mana drain.
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  7. Post #5007
    Dennab
    September 2011
    10,298 Posts
    How 2 counter ursa:
    1. slows
    2. stuns
    3. walking away
    Anti Mage and/or Drow.
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  8. Post #5008
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    The Mighty Boat's Avatar
    April 2009
    9,485 Posts
    I lost four games today. One game I was Omniknight and we had Anti-Mage and Broodmother. They didn't farm anything. In 40 min they had less than 100 creep kills. I don't understand how that's possible with Broodmother. Another game, our Storm Spirit would always, without fail, fly away and immediately die after Bloodseeker would Rupture him. It was lick clockwork after a while; you'd head the Rupture sound go off and see a death message for Storm Spirit. Third game our Spiritbreaker never charged an enemy hero. He got a fucking Aghanim's Staff and never charged an enemy hero. We could won that game too but it was a long and painful 20 min turnaround.

    Not only that but I hate playing Lycan. I just can't jungle with him. I don't know what it is. I'm always underleveled and underfarmed. It's a pain in the ass for me to try to play him and I'm always useless.

    I know the feel bro. I know the feel.
    sorry for dcing in that first game btw dude, my internet went down and it just came back up now
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  9. Post #5009
    Dennab
    September 2011
    10,298 Posts
    my poorly coordinated team got destroyed by this

    what are some good counters for future reference
    Sand King: Any non target stun, special mention for Slardar.
    Omniknight: Stuns, Mana Burn, anybody that can still do stuff regardless of its Repel, mentions to Enigma and Beastmaster.
    Razor: Anybody that can carry like a pro without having a high attack pool, and most likely ranged, Drow or Mirana comes to mind.
    Ursa: Drow, Drow or Drow.
    Dazzle: Mana Burners, Burst Damage to counter his infinite heal, Pudge could have worked.

    Against a team like this I would have probably went: Drow, Windrunner/Lina/Lion, Enigma, Beastmaster/Vengeful and Slardar.

    Drow is going to be the hard carry, so you're going to lane her either solo mid with Enigma Jungler or Top with the Support (Beastmaster or Vengeful depending of your original choice), Windrunner for side solo, and Slardar on the remaining lane.

    Here, let me do some quick schema and edit later.
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  10. Post #5010

    October 2011
    103 Posts
    First CM match in MM.

    QoP + Dark Seer getting a great early game while I, Broodmother, dominate bottom lane (7/0/X early game). Took a while (50+ minutes?) for our Riki to get some decent items and learn to use Diffusial Blade. Was a close match, but in the end upgraded mega creeps dominate everything. Oh and Lich ball everywhere + veno ulti out of nowhere . The Shadow Shaman never talked with us though (or we couldn't understand him because...well yeah you get it). Anyway, they lead in kills but we still won due to tower and possible gold advantage.

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  11. Post #5011
    Dennab
    September 2011
    10,298 Posts
    Here, I wound probably have done something like this.


    Let me explain the lanes.
    Top: Windrunner can easily escape Sand King with her Windrun, she can also shackleshot both of them, it's even more easier as Sand King has to get in melee range, and she can piss off Dazzle by Powershotting about the same amount of damage as his heal.

    Mid: Explained earlier, Drow isn't pure attack, but more Attack Speed, Razor can suck down Attack, not the rate of yours attack, and Drow is a somewhat good mid.

    Bottom: Beastmaster and Slardar, they can chainstun with Roam and Crush, and Slar can keep bashing to death, Slardar isn't in much of a danger as he has Sprit in case Ursa gets angry, and Omniknight can heal himself and nuke yeah, but he can't do anything if you stun him with a lucky Bash.

    Jungle: Enigma could be runned Top, but it's not worth it as he can jungle well enough and Windrunner will most likely be fine, he can occasionally come out after he gets 2 or more levels into Malefice to double stun, once again going Stun heavy as Ursa can't do shit when stunned, and most of the times he has Phase boots to escape. Also, while you shouldn't waste Black Holes like that, since Omni and Ursa are both melee, landing a Black Hole is going to be quite easy if they're trying to gank your friends, and the Black Hole disable DOES go through Omni's repel.

    Teamfight potential:
    Once you hit the teamfight part of the game, Slardar will rip off Sandking with Amplyfing Damage, making him even more squishy, stunning him every time he tries to channel an Epicenter, and remember that Slardar's Ult gives true sight, making him visible if he tries to Sandstorm after you popped it on him.
    For Ursa, no fucking Problem, your team is Slow heavy, and Drow is the best counter to Ursa, he won't be able to do any single contribution if you keep Wards up, especially the Roshan one.
    Razor will be the only one not really countered, thanfully he isn't much of a problem and will most probably try to suck Slardar's attack points, just stun him before Slardar gets in his range and rape teh fuck out of him.
    Dazzle isn't really gonna be able to do anything, except heal and reduce your armor, your team is made to rip off everything fast tho, so no big deal.
    Omni is going to be the only real problem, while Enigma's Black Hole will still fuck over anybody that gets in it, even Magic Immune, his Ult is still gonna make your enemie's armor high as fuck, thankfully it shares almost the same cooldown as your Black Hole, which is about 2 minutes.
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  12. Post #5012
    Watching the world burn is my hobby.
    Banned?'s Avatar
    February 2005
    16,447 Posts
    Here, I wound probably have done something like this.


    Let me explain the lanes.
    Top: Windrunner can easily escape Sand King with her Windrun, she can also shackleshot both of them, it's even more easier as Sand King has to get in melee range, and she can piss off Dazzle by Powershotting about the same amount of damage as his heal.

    Mid: Explained later, Drow isn't pure attack, but more Attack Speed, Razor can suck down Attack, not the rate of yours attack, and Drow is a somewhat good mid.

    Bottom: Beastmaster and Slardar, they can chainstun with Roam and Crush, and Slar can keep bashing to death, Slardar isn't in much of a danger as he has Sprit in case Ursa gets angry, and Omniknight can heal himself and nuke yeah, but he can't do anything if you stun him with a lucky Bash.

    Jungle: Enigma could be runned Top, but it's not worth it as he can jungle well enough and Windrunner will most likely be fine, he can occasionally come out after he gets 2 or more levels into Malefice to double stun, once again going Stun heavy as Ursa can't do shit when stunned, and most of the times he has Phase boots to escape. Also, while you shouldn't waste Black Holes like that, since Omni and Ursa are both melee, landing a Black Hole is going to be quite easy if they're trying to gank your friends, and the Black Hole disable DOES go through Omni's repel.

    Teamfight potential:
    Once you hit the teamfight part of the game, Slardar will rip off Sandking with Amplyfing Damage, making him even more squishy, stunning him every time he tries to channel an Epicenter, and remember that Slardar's Ult gives true sight, making him visible if he tries to Sandstorm after you popped it on him.
    For Ursa, no fucking Problem, your team is Slow heavy, and Drow is the best counter to Ursa, he won't be able to do any single contribution if you keep Wards up, especially the Roshan one.
    Razor will be the only one not really countered, thanfully he isn't much of a problem and will most probably try to suck Slardar's attack points, just stun him before Slardar gets in his range and rape teh fuck out of him.
    Dazzle isn't really gonna be able to do anything, except heal and reduce your armor, your team is made to rip off everything fast tho, so no big deal.
    Omni is going to be the only real problem, while Enigma's Black Hole will still fuck over anybody that gets in it, even Magic Immune, his Ult is still gonna make your enemie's armor high as fuck, thankfully it shares almost the same cooldown as your Black Hole, which is about 2 minutes.
    Drow is a terrible mid. Put her bottom, put Beastmaster mid. Besides, BM can't stun anyone until 6.
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  13. Post #5013
    Dennab
    September 2011
    10,298 Posts
    Drow is a terrible mid. Put her bottom, put Beastmaster mid. Besides, BM can't stun anyone until 6.
    I'm gonna admit you're right on that one, but wouldn't it be better if Drow got solo laning XP ?
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  14. Post #5014
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    pvt.meh's Avatar
    December 2005
    3,562 Posts
    She needs farm, she's a carry, not a ganker.
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  15. Post #5015
    Nelth's Avatar
    October 2009
    2,320 Posts
    Ummm, Beast Master needs solo laning more than Drow does, she needs farm over XP.
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  16. Post #5016
    Antimuffin's Avatar
    June 2011
    2,908 Posts
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  17. Post #5017
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    Jonii's Avatar
    January 2010
    864 Posts
    Drow is a terrible mid. Put her bottom, put Beastmaster mid. Besides, BM can't stun anyone until 6.
    My friend builds a crit-centered Drow, always taking mid, and 4/5 of the time he carries us like it's nobody's business.
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  18. Post #5018
    rangrangpkpk's Avatar
    July 2009
    961 Posts
    Does anyone have a spare invite to send over? been waiting for a key for quite some time now.
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  19. Post #5019
    Nelth's Avatar
    October 2009
    2,320 Posts
    My friend builds a crit-centered Drow, always taking mid, and 4/5 of the time he carries us like it's nobody's business.
    Terrible enemy mid player then and terrible team, a mid Drow is so vulnerable to ganks because she has no escape mechanism and I doubt that her silence can save her when a Tide is coming from the sidde Gushing her while QoP, BM or any other hero just burst her down. And she can get easily outharassed due to her low health.
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  20. Post #5020
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    aydin690's Avatar
    April 2007
    9,678 Posts
    Never seen this heroes do well (in pub games):

    Alchemist
    Dragon Knight
    Slardar
    Chen
    Batrider
    warlock
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  21. Post #5021
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    EliteGuy's Avatar
    November 2006
    6,932 Posts
    Never seen this heroes do well (in pub games):

    Alchemist
    Dragon Knight
    Slardar
    Chen
    Batrider
    warlock
    Dragon knight, Slardar and Warlock are easy, and for the rest I've seen them all played very well

    Play more
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  22. Post #5022
    Gate's Avatar
    April 2011
    471 Posts
    i played slardar once and i never felt so useless before
    probably because im still terrible
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  23. Post #5023
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    Captain Chalky's Avatar
    September 2010
    7,877 Posts
    You're not late, but the article is. There is no need for any sort of "confirmation" if you are capable of logical thinking.
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  24. Post #5024
    Acrono's Avatar
    January 2008
    645 Posts
    Just tried out Drow, I chose her after they picked Lycan, BH and Lifestealer. Drow is really fun mid! I was in a group with the SK over skype.


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  25. Post #5025
    Edvinas's Avatar
    August 2010
    760 Posts
    Is there a place on Dota 2 forums where I could report players. Just had an awful game with some two Spanish guys talking load of shit. I really want those bastards out.
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  26. Post #5026
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    Jonii's Avatar
    January 2010
    864 Posts
    Just tried out Drow, I chose her after they picked Lycan, BH and Lifestealer. Drow is really fun mid! I was in a group with the SK over skype.


    Yep. In theory, Drow will have problems with ganks at mid, sure, but in practice I find that in pubs those ganks don't tend to be executed well or someone from the team backs her up and it's all fine.

    Is there a place on Dota 2 forums where I could report players. Just had an awful game with some two Spanish guys talking load of shit. I really want those bastards out.
    Click their names on the scoreboard (you can do this in game history) and click Report Player. Then choose Verbal or Text Abuse.
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  27. Post #5027
    Murdoco's Avatar
    October 2009
    12,673 Posts
    Um...anyone else notice a 238mb update for DOTA 2 test?
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  28. Post #5028
    Watching the world burn is my hobby.
    Banned?'s Avatar
    February 2005
    16,447 Posts
    Just tried out Drow, I chose her after they picked Lycan, BH and Lifestealer. Drow is really fun mid! I was in a group with the SK over skype.


    *checks items*
    *no Shadow Blade*

    *sniff* I'm so proud of you.
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  29. Post #5029
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    Captain Chalky's Avatar
    September 2010
    7,877 Posts
    Um...anyone else notice a 238mb update for DOTA 2 test?
    Code:
    GAMEPLAY
    - Added Lone Druid!
    - Fixed small bug in the timing of sequential attacks.
    - Lifestealer: Fixed being unable to Infest Mud Golems.
    - Weaver: Fixed Time Lapse interaction with Aegis.
    - Ancient Apparition: Fixed a bug where Ice Blast could get stuck on the map.
    
    UI
    - The top bar game timer no longer is reset when a game ends.
    - Heroes in top bar now draw grayscale when dead.
    - The buyback cooldown time now appears in the gold tooltip.
    - The buyback cooldown now appears in the form minutes:seconds.
    
    VISUALS
    - Added a buff/debuff effect for Razor's Static Link.
    - Added effect for fountain heal. 
    - Fixed heroes drawing parts of their models in portraits when sheeped, hexxed, etc.
    - Updated the effects for Shadow Demon's Shadow Poison.
    - Decreased darkness of fogged areas
    
    BOTS
    - Fixed bots being too aggressive about destroying enemy items.
    - Fixed bug where bots would pick up items like Rapier or Aegis without giving humans a chance at them.
    - After all humans have picked heroes, the remaining bots will now immediately pick their heroes.
    - Fixed bug where bots would try to farm the same neutral camp that a human was farming.
    - Added support for bots buying and placing Observer Wards:
    . The more of a support a hero is, the more likely they are to buy wards.
    . If they have a human teammate, they will not purchase enough wards to fully deplete the store.
    . They will ward the runes, their jungle, and sometimes the enemy jungle (depending on how pushed the lanes are).
    . They won't go to locations to place wards if they think it's too dangerous.
    - Fixed bug that would sometimes prevent bots from defending their top/bottom lanes when the tier 3 towers/racks are gone.
    - Fixed bug where if the incoming threat was small, no one would ever be a selected to defend (typically resulting in no defensive response to creeps).
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  30. Post #5030
    Watching the world burn is my hobby.
    Banned?'s Avatar
    February 2005
    16,447 Posts
    Who were you against mid? If it was Viper and he didn't level his self passive, I jelly. I always have to deal with that BS when I solo Drow...
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  31. Post #5031
    Dennab
    September 2011
    10,298 Posts
    - Fixed heroes drawing parts of their models in portraits when sheeped, hexxed, etc
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  32. Post #5032
    Murdoco's Avatar
    October 2009
    12,673 Posts
    Oh god the new music..so awesome..
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  33. Post #5033
    Acrono's Avatar
    January 2008
    645 Posts
    Who were you against mid? If it was Viper and he didn't level his self passive, I jelly. I always have to deal with that BS when I solo Drow...
    Rhasta went mid, Viper was feeding our team at bot.
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  34. Post #5034
    Dennab
    September 2011
    10,298 Posts
    Oh god the new music..so awesome..
    What is it exactly ?
    In the game files.
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  35. Post #5035
    hello im nobody.
    Eesha's Avatar
    July 2009
    698 Posts
    wierd, why update on tuesday all of a sudden?
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  36. Post #5036
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    aydin690's Avatar
    April 2007
    9,678 Posts
    Never seen this heroes do well (in pub games):

    Alchemist
    Dragon Knight
    Slardar
    Chen
    Batrider
    warlock
    What are you guys disagreeing with? my personal experience? I've never seen a pub player that doesn't suck ass with these heroes. Yeah, i know these heroes are amazing in competitive games (chen, etc) but honestly i rather have something silly like hard carry vengful spirit than a pub chen in my games cuz all they do is be useless.
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  37. Post #5037
    Sharc's Avatar
    January 2010
    3,152 Posts
    wierd, why update on tuesday all of a sudden?
    They probably thought it was wednesday.
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  38. Post #5038
    Dennab
    September 2011
    10,298 Posts
    What are you guys disagreeing with? my personal experience? I've never seen a pub player that doesn't suck ass with these heroes. Yeah, i know these heroes are amazing in competitive games (chen, etc) but honestly i rather have something silly like hard carry vengful spirit than a pub chen in my games cuz all they do is be useless.
    Why are you getting mad over ratings ?
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  39. Post #5039
    riceyrice's Avatar
    September 2010
    1,254 Posts
    First time Bloodseeker, am I good yet?

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  40. Post #5040
    tyler3497's Avatar
    November 2007
    646 Posts
    Does this mean the non-test dota will update tomorrow?
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