1. Post #1481
    Gabe Newell's Avatar
    March 2011
    1,556 Posts
    Every time I queue with an arranged fp team, we always run around like retards while they coordinate like pros.
    it's because we all act like a pub

    there's literally no planning at any time

    people think that just because there's 5 people in a group that know (and I'm using this term very loosely) eachother, they would have an advantage over a pub. that is a plain misconception.
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  2. Post #1482
    I bought this title for 1 dollar
    titopei's Avatar
    April 2009
    8,518 Posts
    it's because we all act like a pub

    there's literally no planning at any time

    people think that just because there's 5 people in a group that know (and I'm using this term very loosely) eachother, they would have an advantage over a pub. that is a plain misconception.
    We're a group premade vs probably a tryhard premade.
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  3. Post #1483
    Gabe Newell's Avatar
    March 2011
    1,556 Posts
    We're a group premade vs probably a tryhard premade.
    we should make a tryhard premade
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  4. Post #1484
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    Dennab
    December 2011
    10,758 Posts
    we should make a tryhard premade
    what kind of tryhard do you mean

    the kind that thinks they're good and does awful or the kind that does the former but actually is good
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  5. Post #1485
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    thisguy123's Avatar
    August 2008
    6,971 Posts
    Sometimes i like to come up with interesting yet impractal ideas.

    For example a Gabe Newell themed hero.

    It's an int support hero.

    One of his abilities would be called "server hiccup" this would slow all targets in an area and add some extra time to the curret cooldowns of all thier abilities. This includes abilities already cooled down. All factors scaling with ability level.

    Another ability would be "SNACK BREAK!" This would either be a channeling spell that heals and adds mana regen over its duration. Or a "snack bar ward" which provides a lesser regen over a longer duration.

    Valve time is a passive ability. It ups the attack and move speed of allies while debuffing enemies.

    His ultimate would be an interesting pasive called "steam sale" i was thinking around the concept of giving an extra % of gold for every creep killed. It could be a flat passive that affects nearby allies. It could be a passive that dustributes a percentage of each creep kill to every ally. Perhaps it could be an active buff to allies that lasts a set duration. Or it could be a debuff apllied to creeps to make them worth more when killed.


    Anywho, i just thought these may be interesting mechanics and thst it could be fun to discuss.

    Edited:

    what kind of tryhard do you mean

    the kind that thinks they're good and does awful or the kind that does the former but actually is good
    What do yo call a guy who thinks he's shit but is normally kinda average?
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  6. Post #1486
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    jmazouri's Avatar
    May 2005
    1,486 Posts
    What do yo call a guy who thinks he's shit but is normally kinda average?
    tryharder
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  7. Post #1487
    hello im nobody.
    Eesha's Avatar
    July 2009
    698 Posts
    i forgot to ask, can someone invite me to the dota group?
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  8. Post #1488
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    BeardyDuck's Avatar
    September 2009
    15,519 Posts
    again with this "tryharding" idiocy?

    needs to be mandatory bans whenever somebody even mentions the term "tryharding"
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  9. Post #1489
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    Gorm's Avatar
    September 2009
    2,598 Posts
    The dota community is 99% tryhard.
    What do you expect?
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  10. Post #1490
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    BeardyDuck's Avatar
    September 2009
    15,519 Posts
    The dota community is 99% tryhard.
    What do you expect?
    not some stupid league term to be in this thread???
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  11. Post #1491
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    Gorm's Avatar
    September 2009
    2,598 Posts
    not some stupid league term to be in this thread???
    All moba communities are made of tryhards.
    Hell even I am a tryhard.
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  12. Post #1492
    I bought this title for 1 dollar
    titopei's Avatar
    April 2009
    8,518 Posts
    mega creeps are bitches
    pls kill me

    Edited:

    also, whats wrong with the term tryhards? Just elitists being elitists i guess
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  13. Post #1493
    Reimu's Avatar
    July 2010
    5,171 Posts
    Two things honestly bother me right now about our inhouses/matchmaking:
    1.) How quick everyone is to slash at each other's throats when the game isn't going well.
    2.) The gradual bitter feelings that are resulting from #1

    Don't get me wrong, getting upset with each other is part of the game and DOTA isn't a game for the soft. But, the people who start lashing out at each other when the game is going bad aren't helping the team focus and concentrate. And it's just sad that our inhouses have resulted in people whining and complaining because of a steamroll or a bruised ego. I think I'm going to get together with my fellow officers later to talk about this more in-depth, because the group itself is taking a very nasty turn and I'm absolutely tired of having to moderate all of this shitflinging.

    tl;dr version

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  14. Post #1494
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    BeardyDuck's Avatar
    September 2009
    15,519 Posts
    get rid of the bad apples.

    Edited:

    mega creeps are bitches
    pls kill me

    Edited:

    also, whats wrong with the term tryhards? Just elitists being elitists i guess
    yes because it is elitist to say "tryharding is a dumb term"
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  15. Post #1495
    I bought this title for 1 dollar
    titopei's Avatar
    April 2009
    8,518 Posts
    dingdongbannu problem solved.

    Edited:

    tryhard
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  16. Post #1496
    Reimu's Avatar
    July 2010
    5,171 Posts
    Honestly, like with ragequits, if we lay down rules I think people will stop. But I'm so tired of people being babies that I'm ready to just start banning people who are going to open their mouths and start shitting all over the place.
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  17. Post #1497
    I bought this title for 1 dollar
    titopei's Avatar
    April 2009
    8,518 Posts
    Honestly, like with ragequits, if we lay down rules I think people will stop. But I'm so tired of people being babies that I'm ready to just start banning people who are going to open their mouths and start shitting all over the place.
    Just do it, you don't have to care about public relations.

    Edited:

    its just going to get worse when they know you don't do anything.
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  18. Post #1498
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    Gorm's Avatar
    September 2009
    2,598 Posts
    People getting mad at a moba?
    oh well gee ummm geeee
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  19. Post #1499
    Gabe Newell's Avatar
    March 2011
    1,556 Posts
    again with this "tryharding" idiocy?

    needs to be mandatory bans whenever somebody even mentions the term "tryharding"
    wow rude

    i don't know about || and tit but I was being sarcastic
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  20. Post #1500
    SnowCanary's Avatar
    May 2011
    1,915 Posts
    Honestly, like with ragequits, if we lay down rules I think people will stop. But I'm so tired of people being babies that I'm ready to just start banning people who are going to open their mouths and start shitting all over the place.
    We have rules in place, the issue is that we rarely enforce them.
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  21. Post #1501
    Fabulous Vailglorous Extraordinaire
    Haxxer's Avatar
    February 2007
    10,709 Posts
    450 matches

    still lots and lots of east europeans and matchmaked against clans
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  22. Post #1502
    Reimu's Avatar
    July 2010
    5,171 Posts
    Just do it, you don't have to care about public relations.

    Edited:

    its just going to get worse when they know you don't do anything.
    I'm moving towards "one strike you're out" on things like this but I don't like to just kick people out unless they know they fucked up. Hell, we gave Timrod two warnings before we kicked him. He was our first ragequitter though.

    We have rules in place, the issue is that we rarely enforce them.
    Depends really. I mean I'll usually take control of the chat room if someone is spamming or I'll say something if someone is being a dick, but personally I only step in if things are becoming serious problems. There's only two people who have really acted up enough to have to be kicked out, one of which was Timrod (who we ended up kicking).
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  23. Post #1503
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    Dennab
    December 2011
    10,758 Posts
    who was the other
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  24. Post #1504
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    Fingers!!!'s Avatar
    May 2005
    2,844 Posts
    So if I play in-house with you guys and I do bad, I ain't gonna get bashed right? Maybe I'll join one with you guys sometime tomorrow. I got mad over a game where my Teamspeak mates told me to get Furion (we were on single draft) and I did REALLY bad with him, but whatever, the options I had were either him, Pudge or Razor. Should have gotten razor though.
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  25. Post #1505
    Reimu's Avatar
    July 2010
    5,171 Posts
    who was the other
    He stopped acting up after we talked to him, so I won't say.

    Edited:

    So if I play in-house with you guys and I do bad, I ain't gonna get bashed right? Maybe I'll join one with you guys sometime tomorrow. I got mad over a game where my Teamspeak mates told me to get Furion (we were on single draft) and I did REALLY bad with him, but whatever, the options I had were either him, Pudge or Razor. Should have gotten razor though.
    I'll be honest: It depends on who you play with. For the most part though, we're pretty forgiving. As long as you know the basics you should be OK, when their inhouse teammates don't know how to do the simple stuff like last hit, deny, etc. that's when people really get upset.
    If someone is really making you feel bad, though, tell one of the officers and we'll talk to them about it.
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  26. Post #1506
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    Dennab
    December 2011
    10,758 Posts
    oh boy

    >doing ancients as naix
    >dazzle(green) takes one
    >i complain and ask why
    >he steals the other two

    yeah im done with fp premades with assholes
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  27. Post #1507
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    BeardyDuck's Avatar
    September 2009
    15,519 Posts
    green is pretentious and whenever i try to do something he's like "WHY????"
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  28. Post #1508
    Reimu's Avatar
    July 2010
    5,171 Posts
    oh boy

    >doing ancients as naix
    >dazzle(green) takes one
    >i complain and ask why
    >he steals the other two

    yeah im done with fp premades with assholes
    That happens to me too sometimes when I'm trying to jungle with some of the newer players. But that's more of an etiquette thing.
    Not that it's OK to do but still.
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  29. Post #1509
    Dennab
    December 2009
    6,575 Posts
    Instead of 'tryhard' why not just say 'not bad' or 'competent'.
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  30. Post #1510

    October 2011
    105 Posts
    What is that Dota 2 steam group that is invite only and can I get an invite? :O
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  31. Post #1511
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    OutOfExile2's Avatar
    December 2008
    11,201 Posts
    I tried Pudge a bit and it was fun at first but the community just completely ruined it for me. Everyone thinks they know the perfect moment for me to use hook and keep yelling if I don't use it in stupid situations like when the hero is completely surrounded in creeps. I don't think they really get how it works at all. And heaven forbid I should accidentally hook a creep because they'll all start yelling "WTF WAS THAT!" as if I purposely hooked the creep out of spite or something instead of getting the hero right by him
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  32. Post #1512
    DO YOU SLAP THE IMOUTO?YES/NO
    Eonart's Avatar
    August 2010
    5,300 Posts
    In my last match, I played Warlock because every pub needs a support. At mid-game sadly, Enemy Obsidian and Pudge are well fed. Enemy Enigma D/Ced.
    I get in a team fight. Get triple kill, only friendly death is Gondar, who killed the 4th guy. Time for push.
    Nothing can possibly go wrong so long as we play our cards right from now on. Right?

    Nope, Anti-Mage doesn't follow the b order. We lose because we can't do the same murder spree we did earlier without him and all enemy heroes barge into the base unscathed.
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  33. Post #1513
    l l
    lmao
    Dennab
    December 2011
    10,758 Posts
    >me and Extermination play 3v2 vs Gabe, Rice and Green
    >our team is 7:0
    >gabe ragequits after I get a nasty hook on him

    I'm not mad anymore
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  34. Post #1514
    Gabe Newell's Avatar
    March 2011
    1,556 Posts
    >me and Extermination play 3v2 vs Gabe, Rice and Green
    >our team is 7:0
    >gabe ragequits after I get a nasty hook on him

    I'm not mad anymore
    I didn't ragequit, I was going to quit anyway after I said "this is just a waste of time", it was just a stupid idea in the first place. After we did bad in an SD (first time as Viper for me, I didn't too terribly bad) you guys were like "oh we're better than you let's prove that we're better than you to make you feel bad". You're just a dick and really don't belong in the group if all you do is demean other players.
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  35. Post #1515
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    BeardyDuck's Avatar
    September 2009
    15,519 Posts
    green is pretentious and whenever i try to do something he's like "WHY????"
    just gonna respond to this by saying green is also a thief, stealing my idea for late night ih.
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  36. Post #1516
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    EliteGuy's Avatar
    November 2006
    7,006 Posts
    just gonna respond to this by saying green is also a thief, stealing my idea for late night ih.
    didn't say ih!!
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  37. Post #1517
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    Ricenchicken's Avatar
    May 2011
    3,118 Posts
    >me and Extermination play 3v2 vs Gabe, Rice and Green
    >our team is 7:0
    >gabe ragequits after I get a nasty hook on him

    I'm not mad anymore
    I stayed and won it for our team though :)
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  38. Post #1518
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    EliteGuy's Avatar
    November 2006
    7,006 Posts
    oh boy

    >doing ancients as naix
    >dazzle(green) takes one
    >i complain and ask why
    >he steals the other two

    yeah im done with fp premades with assholes
    um their whole team was right below us. Autoattacking was turned on by accident in settings since the newest patch and i click constantly, trying to stay near you as you, since i was dazzle n their team was there. dazzle p sucks

    i am truely sorry and i already apologized to you on steam

    Edited:

    green is pretentious and whenever i try to do something he's like "WHY????"
    we've never even played or talked before so how?
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  39. Post #1519
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    August 2008
    2,918 Posts
    Sometimes i like to come up with interesting yet impractal ideas.

    For example a Gabe Newell themed hero.

    It's an int support hero.

    One of his abilities would be called "server hiccup" this would slow all targets in an area and add some extra time to the curret cooldowns of all thier abilities. This includes abilities already cooled down. All factors scaling with ability level.

    Another ability would be "SNACK BREAK!" This would either be a channeling spell that heals and adds mana regen over its duration. Or a "snack bar ward" which provides a lesser regen over a longer duration.

    Valve time is a passive ability. It ups the attack and move speed of allies while debuffing enemies.

    His ultimate would be an interesting pasive called "steam sale" i was thinking around the concept of giving an extra % of gold for every creep killed. It could be a flat passive that affects nearby allies. It could be a passive that dustributes a percentage of each creep kill to every ally. Perhaps it could be an active buff to allies that lasts a set duration. Or it could be a debuff apllied to creeps to make them worth more when killed.


    Anywho, i just thought these may be interesting mechanics and thst it could be fun to discuss.

    Edited:



    What do yo call a guy who thinks he's shit but is normally kinda average?


    I don't know how old this is, but saw it ages ago.
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  40. Post #1520
    I bought this title for 1 dollar
    titopei's Avatar
    April 2009
    8,518 Posts
    Alright, never playing on the weekends ever again. 8 game losing streak then I have to work hard to recover from it while playing on weekdays.
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