1. Post #3361
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    What happened to Detlef anyway? She updates her DA, but she never posts here no more D:
    probably didn't like us saying over and over to fix her sameface

    i could be wrong though, correct me if i am.
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  2. Post #3362
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    Sketch I did at a diner today.
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  3. Post #3363
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    probably didn't like us saying over and over to fix her sameface

    i could be wrong though, correct me if i am.
    she decided that, whether you meant it or not, a lot of the comments here were demoralizing. rather than argue whose fault that was, she decided to take a break from here and see how that goes.
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  4. Post #3364
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    yeah now she posts on dA only. How surprising.

    I still have a grudge about that, mostly because she told me privately, 2 days earlier before that drama on this same thread, that I should work better and harder than usual.

    She was entirely right about the 'I should practise way more and stop using my style a bit' part and I won't argue that, but it's more her "rage-quitting" (that happened just after) I am upset about, especially from someone who I consider to be really good and has a huge potential.
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  5. Post #3365
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    i rage quit all the time in video games i have zero tolerance for failure!!!
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  6. Post #3366
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    i rage quit all the time in video games i have zero tolerance for failure!!!
    wat

    What I meant is that she loses some of her credibility to me, by completely overreacting

    Especially considering she is the kind of person of being as 'harsh' as us, when it comes to critiques/comments.
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  7. Post #3367
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    You guys DO know that there are FAR better art communities out there then CC and where you can, you know, get feedback from talented people who does it for a living and so on? Communities that focuses on creating art and growing as an artist and doesn't focus on creating drama? Not saying that about all the users, but some sure are more interested in that then actually posting art.
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  8. Post #3368
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    You guys DO know that there are FAR better art communities out there then CC and where you can, you know, get feedback from talented people who does it for a living and so on? Communities that focuses on creating art and growing as an artist and doesn't focus on creating drama? Not saying that about all the users, but some sure are more interested in that then actually posting art.
    List some off.
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  9. Post #3369
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    List some off.
    conceptart
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  10. Post #3370
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    List some off.
    Okidoki! I'm glad to! Here's a list of non-drama art communities that focuses on art instead of drama:

    CGHUB
    Crimson Daggers
    Conceptart.org
    artgrounds
    tsofa.com (the society of figurative art, one of my favorites)
    wecoockart.com


    Seriously, joining one of them is like enough since you get so much feedback from so many artists on those sites.
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  11. Post #3371
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    ah thank you
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  12. Post #3372
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    Something I have to do for school.

    Any feedback?
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  13. Post #3373
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    Okidoki! I'm glad to! Here's a list of non-drama art communities that focuses on art instead of drama:

    CGHUB
    Crimson Daggers
    Conceptart.org
    artgrounds
    tsofa.com (the society of figurative art, one of my favorites)
    wecoockart.com


    Seriously, joining one of them is like enough since you get so much feedback from so many artists on those sites.
    Concept Art is good, but you get rarely help from there if you're not really known, or you don't update your thread regularly.

    CGHub is the Concept 2.0, where every good old artists left CA because of some major drama that happened 2 years ago and people migrated to CGHub instead.

    I don't know about the others websites though.
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  14. Post #3374
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    Concept Art is good, but you get rarely help from there if you're not really known, or you don't update your thread regularly.

    CGHub is the Concept 2.0, where every good old artists left CA because of some major drama that happened 2 years ago and people migrated to CGHub instead.

    I don't know about the others websites though.
    And that makes the CC better? Please, just because of the algenpfleger-drama that happened over there (which is totally unlike the kind of nonsensical minuscular drama that some of you guys cook up here, look it up) doesn't mean that it's not a much better art-community. And that was the point if you missed it.


    ah thank you
    You're welcome!
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  15. Post #3375
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    Never said CC was better than any of art websites.

    I personally look up at posting my stuff on CA/CGHub, though I won't rely on them too much (unless I got any kind of useful feedback/advices)
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  16. Post #3376
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    i know i'm a bit late here and i'm going to ignore the discussion of "THIS WEBSITE IS BETTER THAN THAT WEBSITE"

    but i find it hilariously ironic that detlef was the primary poster and advocate of the "DA is shit. tom preston is shit. everyone on that site is shit. they can't handle criticism" thread but then when she got recognised on there she ditched us because she couldn't handle criticism lmao

    tom preston mk2 minus the small penis
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  17. Post #3377
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    except i dont see how thats at all accurate? she didnt leave because she 'got recognised' nor did she leave because she cant handle critisism. she left because often the criticism was delivered with a heapful of negativity much like you're displaying now. she still gets plenty of cc from plenty of other places (not da). i know i'm fanning the flames but you're just being ridiculous, she's not even here nor did she make some grand exit or anything, she just left because she wanted to and you're still being shitty about it.
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  18. Post #3378
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    being an absolute tool spawns negativity

    that's about it
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  19. Post #3379
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    being an absolute tool spawns negativity

    that's about it
    how is this acceptable? say what you want about detlefs frankness in her cc's but that's nothing compared to the posts you're making toward her
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  20. Post #3380
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    ChestyMcGee and ADT's current behavior right now is a clear reason for why Detlef left.

    I mean, she's not even here anymore, left in a mature way without causing drama and we've already discussed Detlef upside down and inside out in the past and yet you still feel like shit talking about her.

    Just give it a rest will you?
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  21. Post #3381
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    Yes. Get over it. Do something productive for once.
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  22. Post #3382
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    This is turning into a regular Melrose Place.

    Can't we just not take negativity on the internet seriously and understand that nothing said here really matters? I mean maybe I have the wrong idea, but it's always been my understanding that the internet sort of generates negativity by nature and it's best to just ignore it so as not to stoke up the drama flames.

    I mean, I get where all of you guys are coming from, but seriously, it's the internet.

    Edited:

    I think something that needs to be recognized is that to most people all Detlef is is a voice of negativity. For a lot of people the only things they've ever seen out of her are insults and sarcasm.

    There's no voice to attach her to, no tone or inflection to glean her motives from. So, yeah, to those of you that actually know her what she says doesn't have quite the bite that it does to everyone else.

    It's a simple issue of perspective and expecting it to not come up in a purely information based communication medium is naive, and expecting people to see things from your perspective when they don't have the benefit of your perspective is also naive.
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  23. Post #3383
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    I don't think people being harsh causes drama

    I think people giving a fuck too much and too often causes it

    Yes. Get over it. Do something productive for once.
    For someone on a high horse about pure artistic communities without the friction, you are one pissy motherfucker
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  24. Post #3384
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    I don't think people being harsh causes drama

    I think people giving a fuck too much and too often causes it



    For someone on a high horse about pure artistic communities without the friction, you are one pissy motherfucker
    This got nothing to do about high-horses. I only act like this towards those I see only posting this complaining-drama-shit and nothing else for a long while, in order to get them to do something else in what is supposed to be a thread about productivity in art.
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  25. Post #3385
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    the best thing about getting home from work early on a friday isn't just getting out early. it's getting to see what happens when someone mentions detlef in this thread.
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  26. Post #3386
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    Some people here are far too obnoxious and should seriously consider their attitude. Being an asshole for no apparent reason isn't worthy of even being here, posting, having an account.

    Yet, however, we're off topic and I suggest we drop it.

    Apropeau getting back on track...
    I'm curious about your ways of sketching, painting a character in specific.
    For example, I first drew white outlines and then filled it with black in a masking layer
    why I did this was for the sake of control. I could draw however wildly I wanted near the silhouette and wouldn't fuck up and proportions.


    For some reason I ended up with a mix of nakedness and clothes cuts as if wearing a vest. This was the plan, however there was actually more to the outfit. All the while the black silhouette always stayed the same, as well as the sketch proportion lines. The eyes were left black, and I used another layer ontop just to not accidentally fuck anything up. The same goes for the hair.


    Another layer created and I let a (still WIP) dress grow out for playing with ideas, at the same time as I outlined an armor of a leather nature.
    Dress:


    Armor:


    But what I really want to know is the pros and cons of this method, and maybe what you yourself go with or prefer. Destructive editing or a Photoshop file full of several layers? So far I've found this method being the most comfortable one, the easiest one compared to for example having black outlines instead of white ones, or skipping the silhouette and having loose boundaries of which one could stray from (beneficial or not).
    So what are your thoughts? What methods do you use?
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  27. Post #3387
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    Some people here are far too obnoxious and should seriously consider their attitude. Being an asshole for no apparent reason isn't worthy of even being here, posting, having an account.
    Don't worry, we've become accustomed to dgg by now :/
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  28. Post #3388
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    ChestyMcGee and ADT's current behavior right now is a clear reason for why Detlef left.
    :/

    http://facepunch.com/threads/1160405...1#post35307966

    If we're going to play that "who is to blame" game, several of us are part of it.

    But what has been done is now done, so I don't think arguing much further about it is going to change anything for her situation or us.
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  29. Post #3389
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    you know what this thread would be really cool with? some sort of drawing thingy where people draw together
    (it would also make people more friendly to each other)
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  30. Post #3390
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    you know what this thread would be really cool with? some sort of drawing thingy where people draw together
    (it would also make people more friendly to each other)
    We had a collab a while ago, it was great fun but people got bored of it while it was fairly unfinished.

    That was the last update I have on my HD but I think it went a bit further than that.
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  31. Post #3391
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    Okidoki! I'm glad to! Here's a list of non-drama art communities that focuses on art instead of drama:

    CGHUB
    Crimson Daggers
    Conceptart.org
    artgrounds
    tsofa.com (the society of figurative art, one of my favorites)
    wecoockart.com


    Seriously, joining one of them is like enough since you get so much feedback from so many artists on those sites.
    Just wanted to let you know that you typo'd http://wecookart.com/

    Thanks for the links, I will definitely check out the sites I haven't been on
    before :)
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  32. Post #3392
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    it's a metaphor for this thread
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  33. Post #3393
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    Okidoki! I'm glad to! Here's a list of non-drama art communities that focuses on art instead of drama:

    CGHUB
    Crimson Daggers
    Conceptart.org
    artgrounds
    tsofa.com (the society of figurative art, one of my favorites)
    wecoockart.com


    Seriously, joining one of them is like enough since you get so much feedback from so many artists on those sites.
    where is furaffinity?? clearly u no nothing of REAL art!

    This got nothing to do about high-horses. I only act like this towards those I see only posting this complaining-drama-shit and nothing else for a long while, in order to get them to do something else in what is supposed to be a thread about productivity in art.
    I don't know about you guys but Lord M is much less on a high horse than you make him out to be. He left this place for a good while and came back like an enlightened buddhist with wisdom from traveling the interworld


    except i dont see how thats at all accurate? she didnt leave because she 'got recognised' nor did she leave because she cant handle critisism. she left because often the criticism was delivered with a heapful of negativity much like you're displaying now. she still gets plenty of cc from plenty of other places (not da). i know i'm fanning the flames but you're just being ridiculous, she's not even here nor did she make some grand exit or anything, she just left because she wanted to and you're still being shitty about it.
    I wanna back this up a bunch, I talked with her a bit when she was getting fed up with it, I'm not sure that many people recognized the fact that 90% of the commentary on her stuff was 'lol sameface', 'oh another deerboy why don't you do something original', 'you just like alexius because he bought you premium you sellout', then you guys would start getting more aggressive when she (somehow) took your empty criticism and passive insults as anything other than positive, and it all escalated a nonsense situation.

    both me and det agreed that it was most likely that people were always more aggressive with her because she used to be really aggressive/no-bullshit herself. She's a big poster in the devArt thread and I'm sure all of the laughing/nitpicking that naturally happens in there didn't lend much to the image, but she's been way nicer outside of that thread for months, maybe longer.
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  34. Post #3394
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    My friend wanted me to draw a vulture/wolf type creature.
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  35. Post #3395
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    My friend wanted me to draw a vulture/wolf type creature.
    I absolutely love that.

    Can you describe your process?
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  36. Post #3396
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    I absolutely love that.

    Can you describe your process?
    Hmmm... for this piece I started with a 95% gray and just started drawing lines. After getting a decent looking wolf shape, I started to add color. I had a large collection of swatches so I just picked whatever looked like a gross color. Light browns, purples, and nasty green colors. After I was done with the color, I think I made an overlay layer and added the blood. It's hard to describe my process because I don't really think about it. It just happens.
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  37. Post #3397
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    I tried to draw a rose.



    C&C would be appreciated.
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  38. Post #3398
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    I added running and slowing down animations. How is it so far?
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  39. Post #3399
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    I tried to draw a rose.



    C&C would be appreciated.
    They don't have THAT many thorns
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  40. Post #3400
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    I tried to draw a rose.



    C&C would be appreciated.
    the thorns look pretty flat and not 3d, you should try having more contrasting shading (unless you're going for the bland look) and generally making the object look more 3d
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