1. Post #1281
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    TMBGFan's Avatar
    November 2011
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    even though i like how minecraft is now, i dislike the hunger bar greatly

    for one thing it's made a lot of items redundant: why would you bother gathering the materials for a cake when you could restore the same amount of hunger with ~2 steaks?

    the same goes for cookies-why bother using a rare, dungeon-only item to heal a total of 2 hunger points?


    on the other hand a lot of this problems also exist with just a health bar, so
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  2. Post #1282
    Failure's Avatar
    October 2008
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    even though i like how minecraft is now, i dislike the hunger bar greatly

    for one thing it's made a lot of items redundant: why would you bother gathering the materials for a cake when you could restore the same amount of hunger with ~2 steaks?

    the same goes for cookies-why bother using a rare, dungeon-only item to heal a total of 2 hunger points?


    on the other hand a lot of this problems also exist with just a health bar, so
    Why bother gathering Iron and Diamonds for better tools when you can use stone tools ?
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  3. Post #1283
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    November 2011
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    Why bother gathering Iron and Diamonds for better tools when you can use stone tools ?
    that's not really the same thing as what i'm saying

    whereas iron and diamond tools can break more blocks and break them faster, there is no difference in the end whether you eat pork or cake
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  4. Post #1284
    Stonecycle's Avatar
    September 2011
    5,262 Posts
    Cake can be made with "factory" resources (resources that can be infinitely gathered) such as sugar (grown from sugar cane), milk (milked from cows), eggs (laid by chickens), and wheat (grown from seeds). Steak is a "factory" resource in logic (keep making more cows with wheat), but also becomes tedious to just keep on and on and on.
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  5. Post #1285
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    Jallen's Avatar
    December 2007
    7,541 Posts
    I grew tired of the new Minecraft.

    Now I'm only playing Minecraft on 1.6.6.

    It was alot better, the terrain generation is alot, alot better. None of that stupid enchanting/hunger, those do not fit the game, the feeling of isolation is back, no more stupid testificates, no more ugly ravines intersecting with abandoned mineshafts that were boring to begin with anyway.

    Good ol' 1.6.
    1.7.3, the best version of minecraft.

    The old terrain generation,
    No hunger,
    No enchanting etc.
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  6. Post #1286
    Samuka97's Avatar
    April 2007
    1,982 Posts
    I don't see why people dislike hunger and enchantments. I find that the current hunger system is much better than the old "eat food and you're healed" system, because say you just ate a porkchop and got hit by something. In the old versions, you'd have to waste another porkchop, where in this one you can just wait a little while for it to regenerate. It's also fairly loyal to the original Minecraft, seeing how it was meant to be a survival game.

    I also like enchantments because it gives a point to making mob grinders, and it's surely a fun system to keep you going even after you've obtained all diamond stuff. In 1.7 and below, you got diamonds and you got the best tools, but now you still have to go a long way killing mobs and have some sort of luck to get the best tools, it's not an instant thing now.

    Though I do prefer 1.7 generation over the new one, Jeb's doing his best to bring back beaches and more "character" back to maps. And you can always just resort to using mods like ExtraBiomes to give you that pre-1.8 world feel. If only we've had greener grass and some of the old biomes back, I'd be fairly content with the current world gen.

    But whatever, everyone's entitled to their own opinion I guess.
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  7. Post #1287

    July 2010
    2,046 Posts
    Is it really that hard to keep food at a ready supply in your inventory? Fishing needs a little more love.
    Fishing needs a lot more love, in my opinion. It should be a fundamental 'skill' (for lack of a better word) like chopping wood and mining. Making a better fishing rod should catch much better fish. Or something.
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  8. Post #1288
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    November 2009
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    Big noses is commonly seen as a comical physical trait of a character.
    You pointing out that big noses are racist is in fact racist of it's own.
    That was a part of what was obviously a joke.
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  9. Post #1289
    Stonecycle's Avatar
    September 2011
    5,262 Posts
    Fishing needs a lot more love, in my opinion. It should be a fundamental 'skill' (for lack of a better word) like chopping wood and mining. Making a better fishing rod should catch much better fish. Or something.
    Or we could have better tools and bait to catch better fish. Or larger fish have a durability counter, where one fish could take bites to finish one of, similar to cake.
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  10. Post #1290
    Failure's Avatar
    October 2008
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    that's not really the same thing as what i'm saying

    whereas iron and diamond tools can break more blocks and break them faster, there is no difference in the end whether you eat pork or cake
    I still don't see why you and some of other people are so butthurt about the hunger. It's not like sacrificing 5-10 minutes for slaying hordes of cows and getting about stack of meat is so hard.
    Then, given that your mine is not far away from your home so you don't have to sprint much, your food bar won't deplete fast, so having about 6 cooked pork/whatever in your inventory per mining trip is enough.

    Wood, Stone, Iron, Diamond tools break blocks with different times, correct.
    But in the end all they do is break blocks.
    You have many food types that add to your food bar and then heal you. Yes, some of them "heal" you the same amount but you have many food types to choose from.
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  11. Post #1291
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    November 2011
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    I still don't see why you and some of other people are so butthurt about the hunger. It's not like sacrificing 5-10 minutes for slaying hordes of cows and getting about stack of meat is so hard.
    Then, given that your mine is not far away from your home so you don't have to sprint much, your food bar won't deplete fast, so having about 6 cooked pork/whatever in your inventory per mining trip is enough.

    Wood, Stone, Iron, Diamond tools break blocks with different times, correct.
    But in the end all they do is break blocks.
    You have many food types that add to your food bar and then heal you. Yes, some of them "heal" you the same amount but you have many food types to choose from.
    not exactly butthurt, i just don't like the system that much

    and anyway i wasn't complaining that it was too hard to get food, i was talking about how there's so many types of food that it makes a lot of them useless

    also: try breaking obsidian with a wood pick
    then compare eating an apple with eating 2 uncooked porkchops
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  12. Post #1292
    Please waste more of your money changing this title again.
    Gmod4ever's Avatar
    August 2005
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    I still don't see why you and some of other people are so butthurt about the hunger. It's not like sacrificing 5-10 minutes for slaying hordes of cows and getting about stack of meat is so hard.
    Then, given that your mine is not far away from your home so you don't have to sprint much, your food bar won't deplete fast, so having about 6 cooked pork/whatever in your inventory per mining trip is enough.

    Wood, Stone, Iron, Diamond tools break blocks with different times, correct.
    But in the end all they do is break blocks.
    You have many food types that add to your food bar and then heal you. Yes, some of them "heal" you the same amount but you have many food types to choose from.
    What? Why do you try to purposely starve yourself?

    I never leave my house without one of my many full stacks of cooked beef.
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  13. Post #1293
    wtf am i reading
    Blueplastic's Avatar
    June 2010
    15,895 Posts
    There should be an achievement for making an Iron Golem.
    I also really like how expensive they are. It's so satisfying when you finally make one legitly and he proceeds to rape everyone

    Ok, I got rated dumb for no reason whatsoever.
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  14. Post #1294
    TheSporeGA's Avatar
    January 2010
    5,139 Posts
    There should be an achievement for making an Iron Golem.
    I also really like how expensive they are. It's so satisfying when you finally make one legitly and he proceeds to rape everyone
    I think it was 32 ingots.

    You need four iron blocks and a pumpkin.
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  15. Post #1295
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    Nemisis116's Avatar
    July 2011
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    Its just a pain in the ass slowdown, usually if I'm busy mining and my hunger bar is nearly empty I say "fuck it" and starve myself and survive with half health.
    I just end up eating zombie flesh or whatever anyway, easiest food to find.

    The hunger bar is so needy, I came to minecraft to build houses and overly large buildings, not hunt for cows and pigs because its past my 18th lunchtime today.
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  16. Post #1296
    woolio1's Avatar
    November 2009
    9,076 Posts
    I've never had an issue with hunger. I carry a stack of bread. Stop complaining, and maybe run a kitchen garden. Heck, you can make an automatic melon farm that'll more than satiate your hunger.
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  17. Post #1297
    Stonecycle's Avatar
    September 2011
    5,262 Posts
    ...automatic melon farm...
    How is it automatic if you have to retill the soil every harvest?
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  18. Post #1298
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    December 2007
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    How is it automatic if you have to retill the soil every harvest?
    You know what would be cool? If Jeb made it so that a dispenser going into the side of a tilled dirt block caused the seeds in the dispenser to be planted in that block.

    I dunno how auto tilling would be done...
    Maybe if you had iron bars on a sticky piston it would till the soil.
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  19. Post #1299
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    February 2008
    10,891 Posts
    What? Why do you try to purposely starve yourself?

    I never leave my house without one of my many full stacks of cooked beef.
    its much cheaper for me to just die instead of eating since i would just respawn and pick up my items again

    Edited:

    How is it automatic if you have to retill the soil every harvest?
    you dont have to till the soil for melon to grow
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  20. Post #1300
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    August 2009
    5,617 Posts
    I hope you can merge stairs. Like, stone slab with cobble to make a single block.
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  21. Post #1301
    Failure's Avatar
    October 2008
    1,440 Posts
    Its just a pain in the ass slowdown, usually if I'm busy mining and my hunger bar is nearly empty I say "fuck it" and starve myself and survive with half health.
    I just end up eating zombie flesh or whatever anyway, easiest food to find.

    The hunger bar is so needy, I came to minecraft to build houses and overly large buildings, not hunt for cows and pigs because its past my 18th lunchtime today.
    It seems that switching to peaceful mode or going into Creative is too hard for some people.
    Then there are mods that get rid of the hunger.

    It's called Survival for a fucking reason.
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  22. Post #1302
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    Gmod4ever's Avatar
    August 2005
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    Its just a pain in the ass slowdown, usually if I'm busy mining and my hunger bar is nearly empty I say "fuck it" and starve myself and survive with half health.
    I just end up eating zombie flesh or whatever anyway, easiest food to find.

    The hunger bar is so needy, I came to minecraft to build houses and overly large buildings, not hunt for cows and pigs because its past my 18th lunchtime today.
    If you play Minecraft just to be Creative, then... GASP! Play Creative mode!

    Like Failure said, believe it or not, the gamemode names are not arbitrary words Notch pulled out of that little hat of his: Survival is for surviving, and Creative is for being creative.

    If you don't like the surviving aspect, and just want the creative aspect, then just play Creative. It's not that hard a concept.
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  23. Post #1303
    ultradude25's Avatar
    June 2008
    1,521 Posts
    even though i like how minecraft is now, i dislike the hunger bar greatly

    for one thing it's made a lot of items redundant: why would you bother gathering the materials for a cake when you could restore the same amount of hunger with ~2 steaks?

    the same goes for cookies-why bother using a rare, dungeon-only item to heal a total of 2 hunger points?


    on the other hand a lot of this problems also exist with just a health bar, so
    Cake is actually really useful because you eat it instantly. No need to wait for the eating animation to play.
    It'd be best to have a chest full of cakes in an area that you travel past often, then you can have a quick snack on a cake as you pass by, so your hunger level is kept topped up.
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  24. Post #1304
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    March 2006
    7,368 Posts
    I just always make ass-tons of bread. vv
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  25. Post #1305
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    November 2011
    8,063 Posts
    Jeb's getting married.

    https://twitter.com/#!/jeb_/status/173132685429063680

    Good for him!
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  26. Post #1306
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    May 2010
    3,917 Posts
    I love the hunger system, survival aspects are fun. At the begining of the game things are a lot harder and I like that. However getting yourself situated and having a steady food supply is not hard at all. Here are all the things you can do:

    Kill a skeleton, get a bone, get a little bit of wheat, find some chickens, take them to your house, and sit afk in the chicken pen for a bit, you got some eggs. Throw the eggs you got more chickens, or breed them, and eventually you will have enough chickens at your disposal that you can kill them and have them as a food source. Not hard.

    Get some seeds, kill a skeleton, use some bone meal to start yourself out on a wheat farm that's roughly 5x5, and you're set. You can also now use this to breed animals, which is better in the long run.

    Run out around and get some mushrooms, or use a bonemeal on a mushroom and get more mushrooms. Damn you got yourself stew for days.

    Kill zombies or make a zombie trap for rotten flesh. It makes you hungry but if you have a lot it could make great cheap food.

    etc.
    It is a bit tedious to eat every now and then but I think it helps the game more than it hurts it. Plus having one item slot for keeping your hunger up is A LOT easier than using half your fucking inventory.

    Edited:

    You know what would be cool? If Jeb made it so that a dispenser going into the side of a tilled dirt block caused the seeds in the dispenser to be planted in that block.

    I dunno how auto tilling would be done...
    Maybe if you had iron bars on a sticky piston it would till the soil.
    I think seeds/saplings should plant automatically after a while if not picked up.
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  27. Post #1307
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    October 2010
    11,333 Posts
    I think it's better than the new 1.2 version. Just compare the terrain generation.

    Edited:

    No, really, Mojang ruined Minecraft.

    They should have stopped at 1.7.3.

    And now I'm gone.
    That's right! Keep that Notch fanboyism flowing.
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  28. Post #1308
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    August 2009
    932 Posts
    That's right! Keep that Notch fanboyism flowing.
    but notch has   no fans   
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  29. Post #1309
    TheSporeGA's Avatar
    January 2010
    5,139 Posts
    The ONLY time hunger has bothered me was in Hardcore mode, and MOTHER FUCKING 2B2T! That server is barley fucking playable with it. It is almost impossble to get out of spawn. The only way to do it is too get lucky enough to kill a zombie through the lag and all the other fucking mobs without a sword, to get some rotten meat. Then you have to find a portal to the Nether and hope to god you can find another one very far away.

    Damn you hunger.
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  30. Post #1310
    Rammlied's Avatar
    May 2010
    3,917 Posts
    GUYS
    GUYS
    HELP PLEASE GOD

    I'm not sure what I want to do, but I want to have a pattern. Which one is better?
    Also, I would of have them going all the way down, but that intersects with my lava forges or/and my branches to other rooms, which I don't want to remove.
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  31. Post #1311
    Stonecycle's Avatar
    September 2011
    5,262 Posts
    Ummm, guys? I think I accidentally inserted the cartridge wrong again.

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  32. Post #1312
    Artix3's Avatar
    February 2009
    1,735 Posts
    Ummm, guys? I think I accidentally inserted the cartridge wrong again.

    You don't tilt the cartridge to get the sideways character glitch, silly.
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  33. Post #1313
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    October 2010
    11,333 Posts


    By the time I went down there, I heard ghasts and silverfishes. Tons of ghasts.

    I panicked and went back up and ran to my house.
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  34. Post #1314
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    February 2011
    2,594 Posts
    Ummm, guys? I think I accidentally inserted the cartridge wrong again.

    Did you blow on it? Try dusting it with your shirt, too, see if that works.
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  35. Post #1315
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    Cone's Avatar
    August 2011
    18,901 Posts
    GUYS
    GUYS
    HELP PLEASE GOD

    I'm not sure what I want to do, but I want to have a pattern. Which one is better?
    Also, I would of have them going all the way down, but that intersects with my lava forges or/and my branches to other rooms, which I don't want to remove.
    The one with the block under it gives a sense of completeness. I prefer it.
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  36. Post #1316
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    July 2009
    5,409 Posts
    GUYS
    GUYS
    HELP PLEASE GOD

    I'm not sure what I want to do, but I want to have a pattern. Which one is better?
    Also, I would of have them going all the way down, but that intersects with my lava forges or/and my branches to other rooms, which I don't want to remove.
    The one on the right only extend it down another block.
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  37. Post #1317
    Rammlied's Avatar
    May 2010
    3,917 Posts
    Thanks for the feedback, I've made the decision and the input helped me a lot.
    Anyways, a glimpse of what I'm working on now (It's connected to the giant hole project)
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  38. Post #1318
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    March 2010
    6,796 Posts
    This snapshot update is going to be the best update for furniture ever.





    Now with the new stairs and halfblock placing system, tables are going to be so easy to make.
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  39. Post #1319
    woolio1's Avatar
    November 2009
    9,076 Posts
    Furniture... Amazing.
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  40. Post #1320
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    Terabytez's Avatar
    June 2011
    1,926 Posts
    Loving that table.
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