1. Post #30361
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    Lankist's Avatar
    July 2006
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    That's actually really fucking smart.

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    Put it on a third disk, then. 'Lack Of Memory' isn't really a valid excuse anymore since we see games come out on up to four disks on consoles sometimes. Just chop out the end bit and put it on a new disk. It would be short, yeah, but it would be better than things looking shitty and them cutting stuff out of the game.
    It's not really as simple as putting the last mission on a third disc. Discs 1 and 2 have p. much the EXACT same shit on them. Every armorset, every common item, every hub and ship environment, every side-mission, and anything that should be accessible throughout the whole of the game. The differences between discs 1 and 2 are likely miniscule, which is a problem because it increases manufacturing costs for a relative sliver of things. Adding a third disc would not solve anything; it would compound the issue, as it would likely add even MORE things that also need to be on discs 1 and 2 and more shit that needs to be held in the hardware's memory.
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  2. Post #30362
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    Shepard
    That's pretty much what he would look like as a human.
    Though it makes me wonder, is there one of Garrus?
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  3. Post #30363
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    Lankist's Avatar
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    Putting it on "another disk" does jack shit. They're talking about the ACTUAL memory footprint of the game while it's running.
    Also, I'd like to head-off the "consoles holding PC's back" thing.

    Unless you think Crysis was a well-optimized and stable piece of software, roughly the same hardware memory requirements apply to PC's as they do for consoles in terms of reaching a wide audience. PC's are more lenient about those requirements in general, but the more demanding your product is the less people are going to be purchasing it. There's a reason why World of Warcraft, Torchlight and the like look like shit and still manage to be extremely high-grossing games.
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  4. Post #30364
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    Lambeth's Avatar
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    I need to stop taking all this Blue sand.
    what the fuck man

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    it's red sand you douchenozzle
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  5. Post #30365
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    Put it on a third disk, then. 'Lack Of Memory' isn't really a valid excuse anymore since we see games come out on up to four disks on consoles sometimes. Just chop out the end bit and put it on a new disk. It would be short, yeah, but it would be better than things looking shitty and them cutting stuff out of the game.
    Uh, they're talking about RAM, not data storage space. The Xbox360 does only have 512mb or so, there's only so much you can do with optimization on that.
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  6. Post #30366
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    Also, I'd like to head-off the "consoles holding PC's back" thing.

    Unless you think Crysis was a well-optimized and stable piece of software, roughly the same hardware memory requirements apply to PC's as they do for consoles in terms of reaching a wide audience.
    Except that's exactly what happened. The system that hit the ceiling was the 360, not the other two. Same reason the textures look like ass. When you've got that many different characters and variations of characters, something has to give. Witcher 2 looks completely different on the 360 compared to variety of NPCS and texture quality, and it's not hard to figure out why.
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  7. Post #30367
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    That's pretty much what he would look like as a human.
    Though it makes me wonder, is there one of Garrus?
    Nope but here's mordin
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  8. Post #30368
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    Lankist's Avatar
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    Uh, they're talking about RAM, not data storage space. The Xbox360 does only have 512mb or so, there's only so much you can do with optimization on that.
    its also fucking crazy how Grand Theft Auto 4 runs smooth as a chemotherapy patient's ballsac on the 360's 512mb's, and yet shits itself and dies on my quad-core, 4gb-ram PC. maybe i'm just computer inept but there's something p. off about that.

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    Except that's exactly what happened. The system that hit the ceiling was the 360, not the other two. Same reason the textures look like ass. When you've got that many different characters and variations of characters, something has to give. Witcher 2 looks completely different on the 360 compared to variety of NPCS and texture quality, and it's not hard to figure out why.
    Witcher 2 also requires either a very expensive rig or a lot more tech-affluence than most consumers have to play on PC.

    I'd be curious to see the sales numbers on PC Witcher compared to console Witcher a few years down the line.

    I'm not saying shit isn't getting stunted, I'm saying that it's getting stunted for decent reasons. It's fiscally infeasible to develop a full-out PC version for a simultaneous, multi-platform release (Witcher 2's re-release being, what, a year and a half later?) and at some point you're going to have to pick between appeasing the elite or selling to the peasants. Maybe I'm biased, being that I fall into the peasant category, but I'd rather play a decent-looking game on my 360 than shell out more money and time than I really have for a rig that's only going to last for a year or two if I'm lucky. I'm thirty years old with a wife and a kid, I'm not going to have patience for that shit again for decades.
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  9. Post #30369
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    Uh, they're talking about RAM, not data storage space. The Xbox360 does only have 512mb or so, there's only so much you can do with optimization on that.
    People always go one about the 360 only having 512MB of RAM, the PS3 only has 256MB for games. Neither is well suited to having a lot of shit on screen at a time.

    Also, having 8GB of RAM in my PC, nothing to use it on. This is why I still buy so many games on console, even with fucking 16 times the RAM the games usually run better (but look worse I admit) on a console. It's fucking awful.
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  10. Post #30370
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    its also fucking crazy how Grand Theft Auto 4 runs smooth as a chemotherapy patient's ballsac on the 360's 512mb's, and yet shits itself and dies on my quad-core, 4gb-ram PC. maybe i'm just computer inept but there's something p. off about that.
    Strange but true, and it all comes down to optimization. Little things like making the draw distance smaller than you would think, having the same type of car appear over and over again in the local area, making pedestrians have the same model and texture but with different colours. Then on PC they just said fuck it with the optimization and the engine does backflips over simple tasks making it run like ass. Some good graphics mods out there though so you know it's possible to do it.
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  11. Post #30371
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    Witcher 2 also requires either a very expensive rig or a lot more tech-affluence than most consumers have to play on PC.

    I'd be curious to see the sales numbers on PC Witcher compared to console Witcher a few years down the line.

    I'm not saying shit isn't getting stunted, I'm saying that it's getting stunted for decent reasons. It's fiscally infeasible to develop a full-out PC version for a simultaneous, multi-platform release (Witcher 2's re-release being, what, a year and a half later?) and at some point you're going to have to pick between appeasing the elite or selling to the peasants. Maybe I'm biased, being that I fall into the peasant category, but I'd rather play a decent-looking game on my 360 than shell out more money and time than I really have for a rig that's only going to last for a year or two if I'm lucky. I'm thirty years old with a wife and a kid, I'm not going to have time for that shit again for decades.
    The Witcher 2 confuses the hell out of me. I can run BF3 on all high with no problems, then the Witcher 2 which looks about the same and SAYS my rig can run it fine, fucking shits itself as soon as more than 3 people are on sceen at once. I mean there's catering to the elitists and there's just not giving a fuck.
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  12. Post #30372
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    its also fucking crazy how Grand Theft Auto 4 runs smooth as a chemotherapy patient's ballsac on the 360's 512mb's, and yet shits itself and dies on my quad-core, 4gb-ram PC. maybe i'm just computer inept but there's something p. off about that.
    Well if you bought it on steam you have to run 3 third party programs while you play so that may have something to do with it.
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  13. Post #30373
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    its also fucking crazy how Grand Theft Auto 4 runs smooth as a chemotherapy patient's ballsac on the 360's 512mb's, and yet shits itself and dies on my quad-core, 4gb-ram PC. maybe i'm just computer inept but there's something p. off about that.

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    Witcher 2 also requires either a very expensive rig or a lot more tech-affluence than most consumers have to play on PC.

    I'd be curious to see the sales numbers on PC Witcher compared to console Witcher a few years down the line.

    I'm not saying shit isn't getting stunted, I'm saying that it's getting stunted for decent reasons. It's fiscally infeasible to develop a full-out PC version for a simultaneous, multi-platform release (Witcher 2's re-release being, what, a year and a half later?) and at some point you're going to have to pick between appeasing the elite or selling to the peasants. Maybe I'm biased, being that I fall into the peasant category, but I'd rather play a decent-looking game on my 360 than shell out more money and time than I really have for a rig that's only going to last for a year or two if I'm lucky.
    Witcher was actually made for a range of rigs and optimized from hell to breakfast, which is why they're going to be able to port it at all. I should know as I did assets. It's not a question peasants or kings either, it came down to design choices and compromises. ME1 was rather well optimized for the PC in MOST areas, and EA didn't give Demiurge an arm and a leg to do it. Speaking of which, the system with the highest number of unique number of first buy sales - lifetime for ME is the PC, not the 360.
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  14. Post #30374
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    Lankist's Avatar
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    The Witcher 2 confuses the hell out of me. I can run BF3 on all high with no problems, then the Witcher 2 which looks about the same and SAYS my rig can run it fine, fucking shits itself as soon as more than 3 people are on sceen at once. I mean there's catering to the elitists and there's just not giving a fuck.
    I set it to the lowest fucking settings and the son of a bitch still only shits out 10fps. The "you should have built a better rig" thing seems to have become an excuse for awfulness when I wasn't looking.
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  15. Post #30375
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    what the fuck man

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    it's red sand you douchenozzle
    Oops.
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  16. Post #30376
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    Maybe I'm biased, being that I fall into the peasant category, but I'd rather play a decent-looking game on my 360 than shell out more money and time than I really have for a rig that's only going to last for a year or two if I'm lucky.
    My store bought, six year old computer still can run mostly anything I can throw at it. Except for witcher 2.
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  17. Post #30377
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    Lankist's Avatar
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    Witcher was actually made for a range of rigs and optimized from hell to breakfast
    sorry dude but it could have fooled me. I have a decent computer, and the motherfucker simply will not give me any slack. It's no fucking NASA computer, but if this bastard can run Crysis on Medium, it should be able to run a well-optimized game on the lowest settings without pissing in my ear and calling me sister.
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  18. Post #30378
    What's brevity?
    ironman17's Avatar
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    I thought he looked more like Kratos, personally, but that's probably just me.

    Also the one with Mordin makes me think of elves, probably the eyes and mouth that remind me of the Witcher elves.
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  19. Post #30379
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    Lankist's Avatar
    July 2006
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    also hey lets talk about mass effect
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  20. Post #30380
    Original 300 elitist.
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  21. Post #30381
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    Nope but here's mordin
    I thought it was a pretty big part of his character that he's the equivalent of a sixty year-old man
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  22. Post #30382
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    I thought it was a pretty big part of his character that he's the equivalent of a sixty year-old man
    He is, but he doesn't look old for his age. Despite being an old veteran he still bounds around the lab like a hatchling. He could probably look a bit older there, but it's not bad.
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  23. Post #30383
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    June 2006
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    After finally beating all the me2 dlc i was able to move onto me3.
    Problem is, in me3 i seem to get this very annoying lag in game when i'm playing in 1920x1080 any other resolution runs perfectly fine.
    Has anyone else had this problem?
    I know i have the specs to handle the game on high settings
    intel i5 3.30 ghz
    8gb ram
    2 gtx560 sli
    Yeah, I can run it with any settings under 1080p, but regardless of detail, bloom, anything, if I have my resolution at 1920x1080 like I usually do, it shits its pants. I get well over double FPS on just slightly smaller resolutions.
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  24. Post #30384
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    sorry dude but it could have fooled me. I have a decent computer, and the motherfucker simply will not give me any slack. It's no fucking NASA computer, but if this bastard can run Crysis on Medium, it should be able to run a well-optimized game on the lowest settings without pissing in my ear and calling me sister.
    If you don't have things set in an optimized way, I don't what to tell you. I've seen the game run fine on four year old comps, provided things were turned down to where they should actually be, not to where the user thought the graphics should look like based on pics.
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  25. Post #30385
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    July 2006
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    I thought it was a pretty big part of his character that he's the equivalent of a sixty year-old man
    More accurate Human Mordin:



    Edited:

    If you don't have things set in an optimized way, I don't what to tell you. I've seen the game run fine on four year old comps, provided things were turned down to where they should actually be, not to where the user thought the graphics should look like based on pics.
    i am offended at the implication, sir.

    sure, I'll set everything to absolute minimum before I even think about running any game on anything lower than native resolution, but Witcher 2 still chugs like a motherfucker even when I'm playing it on a postage stamp.
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  26. Post #30386
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    I love getting glitched in the skybox, and I get instantly revived when I go down
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    /sarcasm
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  29. Post #30389
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    Lambeth's Avatar
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    oh no why is there a chopped off space cow head in my bed
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  30. Post #30390
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    Got a Krogan Vanguard in a veteran pack, yay
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  31. Post #30391
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    oh no why is there a chopped off space cow head in my bed
    This one will make you an offer you cannot refuse
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  32. Post #30392
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    Is this even about Marauder Shields anymore?
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  33. Post #30393
    Is this even about Marauder Shields anymore?
    After the 4th or 5th comic or something he became a redundant character apparently.
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  34. Post #30394
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    its also fucking crazy how Grand Theft Auto 4 runs smooth as a chemotherapy patient's ballsac on the 360's 512mb's, and yet shits itself and dies on my quad-core, 4gb-ram PC. maybe i'm just computer inept but there's something p. off about that.

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    Witcher 2 also requires either a very expensive rig or a lot more tech-affluence than most consumers have to play on PC.

    I'd be curious to see the sales numbers on PC Witcher compared to console Witcher a few years down the line.

    I'm not saying shit isn't getting stunted, I'm saying that it's getting stunted for decent reasons. It's fiscally infeasible to develop a full-out PC version for a simultaneous, multi-platform release (Witcher 2's re-release being, what, a year and a half later?) and at some point you're going to have to pick between appeasing the elite or selling to the peasants. Maybe I'm biased, being that I fall into the peasant category, but I'd rather play a decent-looking game on my 360 than shell out more money and time than I really have for a rig that's only going to last for a year or two if I'm lucky. I'm thirty years old with a wife and a kid, I'm not going to have patience for that shit again for decades.
    What? GTA IV played like ass too when I played it on my friends 360. It was like <30fps the whole time. On my PC, I get 40-60 constantly. I've an AMD 965 x4, GTX 260 Core 216 and 4 gigs of RAM
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  35. Post #30395
    Quite so, ol' chap.
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    Is this even about Marauder Shields anymore?
    It started off as a comic about Marauder Shields. He later decided to just go balls out and start a comic under the name "Marauder Shields", in which MS hardly plays a role anymore.

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    Beaten to it by Mac.
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    Reminds me of Lankists comic.
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  37. Post #30397
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    Reminds me of Lankists comic.
    yeah you mean the one i made first that this fucker stole
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  38. Post #30398
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    Lambeth's Avatar
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    Those look like pretty balling socks
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  39. Post #30399
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    Lankist's Avatar
    July 2006
    14,576 Posts
    right down to the god damn stick figures
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  40. Post #30400
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    Lambeth's Avatar
    October 2009
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    yeah you mean the one i made first that this fucker stole
    perhaps the comics developed concurrently

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    breaking all yr automerges
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