1. Post #30241
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  2. Post #30242
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    January 2009
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    Hahaha what, Ashley looks terrible in those deleted scenes.
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  3. Post #30243
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    January 2009
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    Still not completed it. I'm waiting until the new DLC comes out before finishing it the first time through (I basically know what happens, though).
    Knowing what happens doesn't really compare to experiencing it.

    I had been told up and down what happened in every single ending down to almost every detail before I actually finished the game, but when I finished it I still felt extremely robbed and cheated by Bioware, even though I knew exactly what was going to happen beforehand.

    Edited:

    It's like someone telling you that they're going to punch you, and then an hour later punching you in the face. It doesn't really soften the impact of the blow at all.
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  4. Post #30244
    D3N1ZFTW's Avatar
    February 2010
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    Hahaha what, Ashley looks terrible in those deleted scenes.
    It was a placeholder model (that still had better war-styled hair that Ashley's current one)
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  5. Post #30245
    "...Adolf Hitler changed Europe more then any other dictator in the continent's history."

    - History magazine
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  6. Post #30246
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    August 2008
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    "...Adolf Hitler changed Europe more then any other dictator in the continent's history."

    - History magazine

    that picture is %100 accurate, as is that quote.

    Remember people, context is everything.
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  7. Post #30247
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    September 2009
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    Have no proper internet, so done alot of these. I tethered my phones unlimited 3G to my PC so I can actually get on steam and Origin though
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  8. Post #30248
    I'm sure a lot of you have seen this, but this is unquestionably the best ending analysis out there.
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  9. Post #30249
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    Dennab
    February 2006
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    Knowing what happens doesn't really compare to experiencing it.

    I had been told up and down what happened in every single ending down to almost every detail before I actually finished the game, but when I finished it I still felt extremely robbed and cheated by Bioware, even though I knew exactly what was going to happen beforehand.

    Edited:

    It's like someone telling you that they're going to punch you, and then an hour later punching you in the face. It doesn't really soften the impact of the blow at all.
    I agree completely. I knew the ending before it happened, but it still wasn't the same as actually going through with it.
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  10. Post #30250
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    December 2007
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    I agree completely. I knew the ending before it happened, but it still wasn't the same as actually going through with it.
    Hence why I'm waiting for the DLC (in hopes that it makes it somewhat better).
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  11. Post #30251
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    December 2009
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    Right, so essentially my disillusion with ME3's ending has led me to write my own epilogues for the series' minor characters. I've done three so far, and I'll probably do a handful more. I figure any official cinematics will only provide closure for major characters and the races, so I took a more personal touch with these. They're roughly in the style of Dragon Age's 'modular'-type epilogues.


    Dr. Conrad Verner
    Alive – Following the activation of the Crucible, the work of Dr. Verner was thrust into the forefront of academia. With his theories on dark energy ultimately proving invaluable in the understanding of Prothean scientific thought, Conrad undertook an extensive lecture tour of Citadel space, as well as aiding in the analysis of scavenged Reaper technology, before finally settling down at the rebuilt Bekenstein Institute of Theoretical Physics. Despite this, his fiancée politely refused his requests to name their new daughter ‘Shepard’.

    Deceased – When news of his death reached the former employees and refugees of the Shepards Foundation, a grassroots campaign began almost immediately to have his sacrifice acknowledged. Following the convening of a new Alliance Parliament, Verner was posthumously awarded the Star of Terra, one of only a handful of civilian recipients. The Shepard-Verner Foundation subsequently became one of the most active refugee charities in Alliance and Citadel Space.

    Cpt. Lee Riley /Multiplayer Characters
    Alive – The defence of Cyone became almost legendary in Alliance Military circles. Stories of how a four-man SpecOps team held the line against wave-after-wave of Reaper forces drew fresh attention to N7 program, with hundreds of eager marines submitting applications. Following the defeat of Reaper forces, Riley returned to Rio de Janeiro to assist in the rebuilding of the ‘N School’…and to take some well-earned leave.

    Citadel Council Pt. 1
    First Council – With the Reaper threat eliminated, many citizens of Citadel Space voiced their outrage at the lack of preparation, and the ignorance of Commander Shepard’s warnings. Following the establishment of the provisional Citadel Council, councillors Tevos and Sparatus stepped down to assist in the rebuilding of their homeworld, whilst Valern chose to retire from the public eye.

    Second Council - With the Reaper threat eliminated, many citizens of Citadel Space voiced their outrage at the lack of preparation, and the ignorance of Commander Shepard’s warnings. All three established councillors returned to assist in the rebuilding of their homeworlds, leaving several species scrambling to find suitable representatives.

    Citadel Council Pt. 2
    Personal quest completed – Despite his personal loss in the conflict, Dominic Osoba quickly became a key figure in the post-Reaper galaxy. Acting as humanity’s representative, he helped lead a council that represented all of the galaxy’s interests, putting no race before another, and oversaw the readmission of a half-dozen species to Citadel Space.

    Personal quest not completed – Although he proved an able representative of humanity, Dominic Osoba remained haunted by his son’s death on Benning. Despite his best efforts to maintain his public persona, he chose to step down as councillor after just 2 years, leaving an already-hectic Alliance parliament to fill his seat.

    Anyway, I'm tired and off to bed. If there's a genuine interest, I'll publish the rest. If not, I'll banish them to a Tumblr.
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  12. Post #30252
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    March 2012
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    Tali and Garrus could married if Tali or Garrus isn't romanced, only if they don't get pwned by Harbringer's beam.
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  13. Post #30253
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    Mericet's Avatar
    May 2010
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    Right, so essentially my disillusion with ME3's ending has led me to write my own epilogues for the series' minor characters. I've done three so far, and I'll probably do a handful more. I figure any official cinematics will only provide closure for major characters and the races, so I took a more personal touch with these. They're roughly in the style of Dragon Age's 'modular'-type epilogues.
    Just try to imagine Neil Ross reading these to the sound of Vigil. It's very soothing.

    Personal quest not completed – Although he proved an able representative of humanity, Dominic Osoba remained haunted by his son’s death on Benning. Despite his best efforts to maintain his public persona, he chose to step down as councillor after just 2 years, leaving an already-hectic Alliance parliament to fill his seat.
    I really like how this one isn't entirely negative (as with what could happen to Conrad), but rather an outcome which could affect the galaxy in another way.
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  14. Post #30254
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    Zezibesh's Avatar
    May 2008
    18,673 Posts
    Was anyone else incredibly paranoid when doing the mission with Riley's squad? I expected them to turn out to be indoctrinated at any second. I mean Riley kept her helmet on even though she had voice lines.
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  15. Post #30255
    Lots Of Speculation For Everyone
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    April 2008
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    Just had two Krogan Biotic charge off the map at the same time.

    It was beautiful to watch them soar towards Palaven so majestically. :')
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  16. Post #30256
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    February 2012
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    Tali and Garrus could married if Tali or Garrus isn't romanced, only if they don't get pwned by Harbringer's beam.
    That Threwser maw marries an reaper, she was just ragging him down for some R&R later
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  17. Post #30257
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    June 2008
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    "You just gonna stand there and watch commander?"
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  18. Post #30258
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    March 2012
    1,701 Posts
    The two asari gonna buttsecks.
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  19. Post #30259
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    December 2008
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    Was anyone else incredibly paranoid when doing the mission with Riley's squad? I expected them to turn out to be indoctrinated at any second. I mean Riley kept her helmet on even though she had voice lines.
    I thought she kept her helmet on because it would be fatal to take it off in the facility due to radiation...or something. Also, I was dissapointed because I did that mission with Javik and he didn't wear a helmet.
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  20. Post #30260
    supertribute's Avatar
    March 2012
    1,701 Posts
    Wow, Garrus.


    Implying you would rate me late, when I do not care if you rated me any different rating, I still posted it didn't I. :p
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  21. Post #30261

    "You just gonna stand there and watch commander?"
    Fun fact: The 'D' on the crate in the background is the logo for 'Noveria Development Corporation' according to "The Art of the Mass Effect Universe". They supply crates, containers and loadsashit all over the galaxy and have been predominant since ME1. Though the level designers seem to forget it's a 'D' and flip the texture around half the time so it looks like 'C' or 'CA' leading many to believe it stood for Citadel or Citadel Alliance.
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  22. Post #30262
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    March 2010
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    *I point this out, only because I found it immensely fucking annoying and immersion breaking that you simply abandon them in the final game.
    Pretty good, though I'm extremely glad they got rid of the alternate "Reaper Reveal" scene in the trial chambers. The final one was much better paced and minimalistic.
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  23. Post #30263
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    Novangel's Avatar
    September 2008
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    So fab~
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  24. Post #30264
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    February 2008
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    I thought she kept her helmet on because it would be fatal to take it off in the facility due to radiation...or something. Also, I was dissapointed because I did that mission with Javik and he didn't wear a helmet.
    Wearing a helmet was punishable by death in the empire
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  25. Post #30265
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  26. Post #30266
    What's brevity?
    ironman17's Avatar
    June 2006
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    The two asari gonna buttsecks.
    I doubt that's gonna work at all, unless there are strap-ons involved.
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  27. Post #30267
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    Lankist's Avatar
    July 2006
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    I thought she kept her helmet on because it would be fatal to take it off in the facility due to radiation...or something. Also, I was dissapointed because I did that mission with Javik and he didn't wear a helmet.
    in my time, we referred to those who wore helmets as "pussies"
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  28. Post #30268
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    July 2009
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    in my time, we referred to those who wore helmets as "pussies"
    Javik would make a good stalker.

    Let's drink to him once more.
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  29. Post #30269
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    August 2006
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    Helena Blake in ME1 on Mac and Casey.

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  30. Post #30270
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    February 2011
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    They're only alienating their fanbase even more by pulling off stunts like this.

    I don't understand why they just can't admit that there may have been flaws with the games. They keep spouting "artistic integrity" but aren't artists supposed to be accepting criticism to help refine their work?
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  31. Post #30271
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    They're only alienating their fanbase even more by pulling off stunts like this.

    I don't understand why they just can't admit that there may have been flaws with the games. They keep spouting "artistic integrity" but aren't artists supposed to be accepting criticism to help refine their work?
    Yeah, I am disappointed with Bioware (and a good number of developers) who appear to almost be hiding behind the "artistic integrity" defense rather than just admitting that what they did didn't work. If you want to defend a decision that a substantial portion of your fanbase disagrees with, then you need to present a detailed, well-reasoned argument in favor of your choice. Simply saying "We're proud of the artistic decision" makes you look arrogant and disconnected.
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  32. Post #30272
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    I doubt that's gonna work at all, unless there are strap-ons involved.
    Biotic strap-ons of course.
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  33. Post #30273
    Wow, never heard of THAT joke before
    SekritJay's Avatar
    April 2010
    882 Posts
    Anyone got the latest link to Gibbed's latest save editor, and can anyone tell me how to get rid of Kaidan using it? I know Ashley's erm... slightly annoying, but I'm quite annoyed that a lot of dialogue is cut out when Kaidan is in your party and not Ashley

    Also, I know that Soldier is boring, but why do I keep picking it...
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  34. Post #30274
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    February 2011
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    Yeah, I am disappointed with Bioware (and a good number of developers) who appear to almost be hiding behind the "artistic integrity" defense rather than just admitting that what they did didn't work. If you want to defend a decision that a substantial portion of your fanbase disagrees with, then you need to present a detailed, well-reasoned argument in favor of your choice. Simply saying "We're proud of the artistic decision" makes you look arrogant and disconnected.
    Well, sooner or later Bioware's actions are gonna come back and bite them on the ass.

    Hard.

    Honestly, I'm probably one of the few people who thought ME3 in general just wasn't a good game. I'm a person who can see (And get annoyed by as a result) flaws and issues really easily, and it sorts of shows that the game seemed to be rushed out without much testing or feedback. The writing has some good parts but most of the time I find it melodramatic and nonsensical, the animations tend to be really rigid and a hell of alot of old ones from ME1 and 2 get recycled for important scenes (Such as    Legion chokeholding Shep being Saren's animation   ), there's not much freedom in sidequests since most of them involve just heading to a planet and doing some scanning then heading back, the whole War assets system was handled terribly since it undermined every choice by turning all of them into a number and in the end    Only seems to decided if the Big ben blows up, the soldiers get killed or if Shepard survives   , and the worst part is the horrible railroading and bad development decisions that spit at the "massive" choices from the previous games and made them entirely useless by either making the same thing happen regardless of what choice you made, turned into yet ANOTHER email, or only resulting in a different number for your war assets.

    I can understand that people enjoyed the game right up until the ending, but I did not enjoy the game at all. Granted, it'd be impossible to get the whole game redone what with time and money, but still, there were so many cop outs, bad decisions and rushed moments that it isn't much of an excuse.
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  35. Post #30275
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    Lankist's Avatar
    July 2006
    14,576 Posts
    Dr. Conrad Verner

    Deceased – When news of his death reached the former employees and refugees of the Shepards Foundation, a grassroots campaign began almost immediately to have his sacrifice acknowledged. Following the convening of a new Alliance Parliament, Verner was posthumously awarded the Star of Terra, one of only a handful of civilian recipients. The Shepard-Verner Foundation subsequently became one of the most active refugee charities in Alliance and Citadel Space.
    :'(

    Conrad was my favorite character since ME2. No stupid personal issues, no getting Shepard to solve all of his stupid fucking problems. Conrad was like the only dude in the franchise aside from (Paragon) Shepard who legitimately wanted to help other people, with no personal stake in it.

    Think about it. In ME1, if you Paragon him, he admits that he just wants to help out Humanity and eventually goes back to Earth to do his part.

    In ME2, despite the crazy obsession, his sidequest is all about him trying to help someone else. None of this "oh Shepard I'm in trouble, give me a hand" bullshit. He's like "I want to be like you and make the galaxy a better place," and finishing his little quest, Paragon or Renegade, makes him feel like a hero.

    In ME3, he either takes a fucking bullet for you or ends up helping refugees and/or doing research for the war effort for no other reason than that he wants to help out, no personal stake involved.

    And then, to top it all off in the end, if he's still alive he just shoots the shit with you like a regular guy.


    Conrad is a god damn hero.

    Honestly, I'm probably one of the few people who thought ME3 in general just wasn't a good game.
    I've said this before, but the ending has a lot to do with that, too. At least for me.

    There are a LOT of flaws in the whole series. A shitload of them. But most of the weird and wonky shit was very easy to dismiss because it mostly flew under the suspension of disbelief. For me, I didn't really spend much time going "well this entire situation is bullshit," because I was so involved in the story that I didn't give a shit about the quirks.

    And then when Space Ghost shows up, the suspension of disbelief comes crashing right the fuck down, and saying "I'm sure they'll make up for it later" doesn't cut it anymore. I've heard a lot of talk about "high expectations" being responsible for the disappointing ending, but high expectations are the only reason these games weren't completely banal, frustrating and awkward. I couldn't give two fucks about the shitty inventory systems or the stupid space-mining because I figured it wouldn't be a complete waste of time in the end. And then it was, and suddenly all those little flaws sprinkled throughout the series started to stack the fuck up in retrospect.

    If the game had a cliche-but-decent ending, I would have been like "alright, I pretty much expected that, but it was a good ride and worth the time and money invested." But with such a fucking trainwreck, it's really difficult to give the games the benefit of the doubt anymore.
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  36. Post #30276
    Quite so, ol' chap.
    Dominicus's Avatar
    December 2011
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    :'(

    Conrad was my favorite character since ME2. No stupid personal issues, no getting Shepard to solve all of his stupid fucking problems. Conrad was like the only dude in the franchise aside from (Paragon) Shepard who legitimately wanted to help other people, with no personal stake in it.

    Think about it. In ME1, if you Paragon him, he admits that he just wants to help out Humanity and eventually goes back to Earth to do his part.

    In ME2, despite the crazy obsession, his sidequest is all about him trying to help someone else. None of this "oh Shepard I'm in trouble, give me a hand" bullshit. He's like "I want to be like you and make the galaxy a better place," and finishing his little quest, Paragon or Renegade, makes him feel like a hero.

    In ME3, he either takes a fucking bullet for you or ends up helping refugees and/or doing research for the war effort for no other reason than that he wants to help out, no personal stake involved.

    And then, to top it all off in the end, if he's still alive he just shoots the shit with you like a regular guy.


    Conrad is a god damn hero.

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    I've said this before, but the ending has a lot to do with that, too. At least for me.

    There are a LOT of flaws in the whole series. A shitload of them. But most of the weird and wonky shit was very easy to dismiss because it mostly flew under the suspension of disbelief. For me, I didn't really spend much time going "well this entire situation is bullshit," because I was so involved in the story that I didn't give a shit about the quirks.

    And then when Space Ghost shows up, the suspension of disbelief comes crashing right the fuck down, and saying "I'm sure they'll make up for it later" doesn't cut it anymore. I've heard a lot of talk about "high expectations" being responsible for the disappointing ending, but high expectations are the only reason these games weren't completely banal, frustrating and awkward. I couldn't give two fucks about the shitty inventory systems or the stupid space-mining because I figured it wouldn't be a complete waste of time in the end. And then, it was, and suddenly all those little flaws sprinkled throughout the series started to stack the fuck up in retrospect.

    If the game had a cliche-but-decent ending, I would have been like "alright, I pretty much expected that, but it was a good ride and worth the time and money invested." But with such a fucking trainwreck, it's really difficult to give the games the benefit of the doubt anymore.

    Edited:



    I've said this before, but the ending has a lot to do with that, too. At least for me.

    There are a LOT of flaws in the whole series. A shitload of them. But most of the weird and wonky shit was very easy to dismiss because it mostly flew under the suspension of disbelief. For me, I didn't really spend much time going "well this entire situation is bullshit," because I was so involved in the story that I didn't give a shit about the quirks.

    And then when Space Ghost shows up, the suspension of disbelief comes crashing right the fuck down, and saying "I'm sure they'll make up for it later" doesn't cut it anymore. I've heard a lot of talk about "high expectations" being responsible for the disappointing ending, but high expectations are the only reason these games weren't completely banal, frustrating and awkward. I couldn't give two fucks about the shitty inventory systems or the stupid space-mining because I figured it wouldn't be a complete waste of time in the end. And then it was, and suddenly all those little flaws sprinkled throughout the series started to stack the fuck up in retrospect.
    Amen.
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  37. Post #30277
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    Lankist's Avatar
    July 2006
    14,576 Posts
    i accidentally posted twice and figured i could edit it real quickly to make myself not look like a jackass

    so thanks for immortalizing my e-neptitude, bro.
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  38. Post #30278
    Quite so, ol' chap.
    Dominicus's Avatar
    December 2011
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    i accidentally posted twice and figured i could edit it real quickly to make myself not look like a jackass

    so thanks for immortalizing my e-neptitude, bro.
    Pleasure, ol' chap.
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  39. Post #30279
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    Lankist's Avatar
    July 2006
    14,576 Posts
    Pleasure, ol' chap.


    right'o
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  40. Post #30280
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    July 2009
    11,630 Posts


    right'o
    WHAGHT WHAGHT!
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