1. Post #29921
    gay mexican
    Lankist's Avatar
    July 2006
    14,576 Posts
    I have a feeling this debate is going to go in circles
    no circles

    pressly is a straight up pimp

    ashley is a bitchtwat and other casually misogynistic words
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows 7 United States Show Events Agree Agree x 7 (list)

  2. Post #29922
    USER HAS BEEN DISCONNECTED FROM REALITY - RETRY CONNECTION IN 5 MINUTES
    Dennab
    February 2006
    22,239 Posts
    some time? yes

    all of the time that you had bought by sacrificing the colony, severely hindering your ability to escape and warn the rest of council space in case the reapers attack earth first?

    no
    He had been warning everyone about the Reapers for the last 3 fucking years. No one was doing shit about it. It would have been useless for Shepard to demand freedom so he could warn people who wouldn't listen. Again, it would have been more effective to stay in jail and appease the Batarians rather than be free.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows 7 United States Show Events

  3. Post #29923
    Gold Member
    Psychokitten's Avatar
    July 2009
    12,093 Posts
    He had been warning everyone about the Reapers for the last 3 fucking years. No one was doing shit about it. It would have been useless for Shepard to demand freedom so he could warn people who wouldn't listen. Again, it would have been more effective to stay in jail and appease the Batarians rather than be free.
    Even though the Batarians were a non-factor anyway.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows 7 United States Show Events

  4. Post #29924
    27X
    Rantasaurus Rex
    27X's Avatar
    July 2010
    5,999 Posts
    Which reminds me, what happens when you pick the "Catfight!" dialogue option?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pvmY9CwCwM

    If you pick the paragon options, Ashley calls Liara a "blue bug eyed freak" in addition to the species line.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows 7 United States Show Events Funny Funny x 1 (list)

  5. Post #29925
    USER HAS BEEN DISCONNECTED FROM REALITY - RETRY CONNECTION IN 5 MINUTES
    Dennab
    February 2006
    22,239 Posts
    Even though the Batarians were a non-factor anyway.
    How so? The Hegemony was still a cohesive nation until shortly before the Reapers hit Earth. As soon as the Reapers hit a Mass Relay, shit all went to hell. I don't think much warning was given between the first waves of Batarian refugees and the Reapers entering Sol. Alliance High Command was trying to rally the fleets and they had barely taken up defensive positions before the Reapers hit them.

    I'm pretty sure the very opening scene of ME3 is when the Alliance realizes the Reapers have arrived in Batarian Space.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows 7 United States Show Events

  6. Post #29926
    Gold Member
    S31-Syntax's Avatar
    October 2007
    9,808 Posts
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pvmY9CwCwM

    If you pick the paragon options, Ashley calls Liara a "blue bug eyed freak" in addition to the species line.
    Which is why I virmir'd her racist ass without a second thought in ME1.

    Stupid cunt. Go die in a fire. Oh wait you did.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows 7 United States Show Events Agree Agree x 6 (list)

  7. Post #29927
    Gold Member
    Grim Joker's Avatar
    January 2009
    4,743 Posts
    He had been warning everyone about the Reapers for the last 3 fucking years. No one was doing shit about it. It would have been useless for Shepard to demand freedom so he could warn people who wouldn't listen. Again, it would have been more effective to stay in jail and appease the Batarians rather than be free.
    He didn't need to demand freedom. He was a Specter. He could have fucking shot his way out and been totally fine in the eyes of the law. Specters adhere to nobody but the Council.

    Also, he wasted so much time in jail. The Batarians were not going to wage a war on humanity in six months. Tensions would rise, yes, and there may have been race violence, but that's a small price to pay so that Shepard could have done more to prepare for the attack.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows Vista United States Show Events

  8. Post #29928
    USER HAS BEEN DISCONNECTED FROM REALITY - RETRY CONNECTION IN 5 MINUTES
    Dennab
    February 2006
    22,239 Posts
    He didn't need to demand freedom. He was a Specter. He could have fucking shot his way out and been totally fine in the eyes of the law. Specters adhere to nobody but the Council.

    Also, he wasted so much time in jail. The Batarians were not going to wage a war on humanity in six months. Tensions would rise, yes, and there may have been race violence, but that's a small price to pay so that Shepard could have done more to prepare for the attack.
    How do you know a war wouldn't have erupted? Batarian/Human relations had been tense since the Humans started colonizing the Terminus Systems. The nations were a few misteps away from another war.

    And Shepard had nothing else to do to prepare for the attack. What could he have done?
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows 7 United States Show Events

  9. Post #29929
    Mr. Scorpio's Avatar
    May 2010
    10,941 Posts
    He didn't need to demand freedom. He was a Specter. He could have fucking shot his way out and been totally fine in the eyes of the law. Specters adhere to nobody but the Council.

    Also, he wasted so much time in jail. The Batarians were not going to wage a war on humanity in six months. Tensions would rise, yes, and there may have been race violence, but that's a small price to pay so that Shepard could have done more to prepare for the attack.
    At the very least he could have been in a position to respond. You know, like on the citadel with Liara running an ops network to track the location of the Reapers, drawing up battle plans with Garrus and making deals with Wrex for when things get hairy. Finding the Rachni queen, making connections etc. . .

    He could have done a shitload in 6 months.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows XP United States Show Events

  10. Post #29930
    SJW 4 lyfe
    DaysBefore's Avatar
    December 2009
    7,304 Posts
    How do you know a war wouldn't have erupted? Batarian/Human relations had been tense since the Humans started colonizing the Terminus Systems. The nations were a few misteps away from another war.
    Even at the height of the Skyllian Blitz, the Hegemony knew that they couldn't take on Humanity. And Humanity has only grown since, while the extreme isolation has likely weakened the Hegemony. They'd probably step up state-funded terrorism, but I doubt they would go to full-scale war.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows 7 Canada Show Events

  11. Post #29931
    Mr. Scorpio's Avatar
    May 2010
    10,941 Posts
    How do you know a war wouldn't have erupted? Batarian/Human relations had been tense since the Humans started colonizing the Terminus Systems. The nations were a few misteps away from another war.

    And Shepard had nothing else to do to prepare for the attack. What could he have done?
    Batarians are isolationist and weak. They wouldn't pose a threat to humanity even if the humans didn't get help from the other citadel races.



    They're basically space North Korea. Annoying and dangerous, but by no means a threat on a large scale.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows XP United States Show Events Agree Agree x 15 (list)

  12. Post #29932
    Gold Member
    Grim Joker's Avatar
    January 2009
    4,743 Posts
    How do you know a war wouldn't have erupted? Batarian/Human relations had been tense since the Humans started colonizing the Terminus Systems. The nations were a few misteps away from another war.

    And Shepard had nothing else to do to prepare for the attack. What could he have done?
    He could have gone with Liara to Mars. There, he would have been able to drive back Cerberus forces and probably prevent the Illusive Man from ever downloading the Crucible data in the first place. He also might have been able to prevent what happened regarding Sanctuary.

    Why are you even debating this? Shepard not being in jail for six months would have been far more helpful and productive than him being in jail for six months.

    The Batarians may have gone to war, but they didn't have enough military strength to seriously challenge the Alliance. It would have been a pretty easy fight. Also, wars are not fought in six months. The Reapers would have invaded and the war would have ended. It wouldn't have been much of an issue either way.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows Vista United States Show Events

  13. Post #29933
    Mr. Scorpio's Avatar
    May 2010
    10,941 Posts
    He could have gone with Liara to Mars. There, he would have been able to drive back Cerberus forces and probably prevent the Illusive Man from ever downloading the Crucible data in the first place. He also might have been able to prevent what happened regarding Sanctuary.

    Why are you even debating this? Shepard not being in jail for six months would have been far more helpful and productive than him being in jail for six months.

    The Batarians may have gone to war, but they didn't have enough military strength to seriously challenge the Alliance. It would have been a pretty easy fight. Also, wars are not fought in six months. The Reapers would have invaded and the war would have ended. It wouldn't have been much of an issue either way.
    besides, i doubt the hegemony really cared if shepard was free or if he was just in confinement

    to them i think it would only matter if he lived or died anyway so why bother
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows XP United States Show Events

  14. Post #29934
    Original 300 elitist.
    MiX-A's Avatar
    January 2005
    2,157 Posts
    Friday night.

    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows 7 Show Events Funny Funny x 11Friendly Friendly x 1 (list)

  15. Post #29935
    gay mexican
    Lankist's Avatar
    July 2006
    14,576 Posts
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows 7 United States Show Events Winner Winner x 12Funny Funny x 3 (list)

  16. Post #29936
    USER HAS BEEN DISCONNECTED FROM REALITY - RETRY CONNECTION IN 5 MINUTES
    Dennab
    February 2006
    22,239 Posts
    Even at the height of the Skyllian Blitz, the Hegemony knew that they couldn't take on Humanity. And Humanity has only grown since, while the extreme isolation has likely weakened the Hegemony. They'd probably step up state-funded terrorism, but I doubt they would go to full-scale war.
    For destroying an entire colony? Do you think if the US went up to Iran and slaughtered everyone in Tehran, Iran would just be like "lol i cant win this carry on bud". Iran would have gone into a full out war regardless of whether they would win or not. The Batarians wouldn't have just let the Alliance slaughter their population like that, they would retaliate and at least attempt to completely massacre several Alliance colonies.

    This means that the Alliance now has to fight against the Batarians, and that weakens both of their militaries. It might have even put the fleets into a position where they wouldn't be able to rally when the Reapers hit.

    So instead, they blame it on what is essentially a rogue agent. Then they arrest said rogue agent and call it good. The Batarians would still be pissed, but it's a whole lot less likely for them to go into all out war if the Alliance looks like its taking steps to punish the person responsible.

    At the very least he could have been in a position to respond. You know, like on the citadel with Liara running an ops network to track the location of the Reapers, drawing up battle plans with Garrus and making deals with Wrex for when things get hairy. Finding the Rachni queen, making connections etc. . .

    He could have done a shitload in 6 months.
    They had no ideas where the Reapers were in those 6 months. It took a matter of days between the invasion of Batarian space and the invasion of Earth. Like I said, once the Reapers hit a single Mass Relay they went to go ruin everyone's day.

    Also, why the fuck would Wrex help? He is busy unifying and running an entire planet. Either way, it would have failed horribly because the Krogans helping the Alliance would have been obliterated just like most of the Alliance fleets were.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows 7 United States Show Events

  17. Post #29937
    Mr. Scorpio's Avatar
    May 2010
    10,941 Posts
    For destroying an entire colony? Do you think if the US went up to Iran and slaughtered everyone in Tehran, Iran would just be like "lol i cant win this carry on bud". Iran would have gone into a full out war regardless of whether they would win or not. The Batarians wouldn't have just let the Alliance slaughter their population like that, they would retaliate and at least attempt to completely massacre several Alliance colonies.

    This means that the Alliance now has to fight against the Batarians, and that weakens both of their militaries. It might have even put the fleets into a position where they wouldn't be able to rally when the Reapers hit.

    So instead, they blame it on what is essentially a rogue agent. Then they arrest said rogue agent and call it good. The Batarians would still be pissed, but it's a whole lot less likely for them to go into all out war if the Alliance looks like its taking steps to punish the person responsible.



    They had no ideas where the Reapers were in those 6 months. It took a matter of days between the invasion of Batarian space and the invasion of Earth. Like I said, once the Reapers hit a single Mass Relay they went to go ruin everyone's day.

    Also, why the fuck would Wrex help? He is busy unifying and running an entire planet. Either way, it would have failed horribly because the Krogans helping the Alliance would have been obliterated just like most of the Alliance fleets were.
    yeah, iran probably wouldn't attack the US

    Because if they did they would be immediately annihilated by the combined forces of NATO, because while the US was busy making connections Iran was busy digging it's own grave

    Not to mention, like I said, why would the Batarians be appeased by a house arrest? They're fucking crazy.

    Edited:

    and wrex would help because he's a fucking bro, you non believing unbro. bros help out when help is needed. that's the bro code.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows XP United States Show Events

  18. Post #29938
    Gold Member
    Aperture fan's Avatar
    February 2008
    4,149 Posts
    I find it really weird how the Normandy looks like it's still in the middle of the retrofit the Alliance was giving it but isn't getting any further along. It still has random boxes and those rubber mat things and shit everywhere like it's still being worked on. Kind of annoying.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows 7 United States Show Events Agree Agree x 1 (list)

  19. Post #29939
    Mr. Scorpio's Avatar
    May 2010
    10,941 Posts
    I find it really weird how the Normandy looks like it's still in the middle of the retrofit the Alliance was giving it but isn't getting any further along. It still has random boxes and those rubber mat things and shit everywhere like it's still being worked on. Kind of annoying.
    well they don't have time to clean that shit up man

    i mean they can barely keep the scanny thing guarded as it is
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows XP United States Show Events Funny Funny x 5Agree Agree x 1 (list)

  20. Post #29940
    USER HAS BEEN DISCONNECTED FROM REALITY - RETRY CONNECTION IN 5 MINUTES
    Dennab
    February 2006
    22,239 Posts
    yeah, iran probably wouldn't attack the US

    Because if they did they would be immediately annihilated by the combined forces of NATO, because while the US was busy making connections Iran was busy digging it's own grave

    Not to mention, like I said, why would the Batarians be appeased by a house arrest? They're fucking crazy.
    For one, you thinking Iran would be immediately annihilated by NATO is laughable, just like saying the Alliance immediately annihilating the Batarians is laughable. Both nations are incredibly powerful and could possibly hold out for months, while causing significant casualties to the attackers. The Batarians know how to fight dirty, and they would take as many Alliance lives as they could.

    and wrex would help because he's a fucking bro, you non believing unbro. bros help out when help is needed. that's the bro code.
    It's also bro-code not to ask help from a bro who isn't in a position to help. Wrex wasn't having an easy time maintaining cohesion within the Krogan Clans. Trying to form an army to assist the Alliance could have ended any cohesion. It would have been unfair of Shepard to ask Wrex compromise his race for the sake of being a bro. That's totally un-brolike.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows 7 United States Show Events Disagree Disagree x 1Agree Agree x 1 (list)

  21. Post #29941
    Gold Member
    Aperture fan's Avatar
    February 2008
    4,149 Posts
    well they don't have time to clean that shit up man

    i mean they can barely keep the scanny thing guarded as it is
    Really? Down in the Crew Quarters, there is a guy walking a circle around the elevator. And doing nothing else. I'm sure he's real busy with important, galaxy-at-stake things. Is it so much to ask to be able to return from a long mission to a nice, clean ship?
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows 7 United States Show Events

  22. Post #29942
    Gold Member
    Psychokitten's Avatar
    July 2009
    12,093 Posts
    I dun geddit.

    Wat am I missin'?
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows 7 United States Show Events Agree Agree x 2 (list)

  23. Post #29943
    Mr. Scorpio's Avatar
    May 2010
    10,941 Posts
    For one, you thinking Iran would be immediately annihilated by NATO is laughable, just like saying the Alliance immediately annihilating the Batarians is laughable. Both nations are incredibly powerful and could possibly hold out for months, while causing significant casualties to the attackers. The Batarians know how to fight dirty, and they would take as many Alliance lives as they could.



    It's also bro-code not to ask help from a bro who isn't in a position to help. Wrex wasn't having an easy time maintaining cohesion within the Krogan Clans. Trying to form an army to assist the Alliance could have ended any cohesion. It would have been unfair of Shepard to ask Wrex compromise his race for the sake of being a bro. That's totally un-brolike.
    yeah, because they're complete crazy assholes. so again, why would they care if shepard was under house arrest? wouldn't they just be sending jihadists or whatever to kill him regardless?


    who said anything about the alliance

    unlike Threpard who thinks earth is the bestest most important planet ever, i think the efforts should have focused on protecting the citadel, the seat of galactic government and off button for the galaxy

    just making sure that you have some sort of alliance worked out ahead of time instead of having to deal with it after the reapers have already hit would have saved tons of time and lives
    instead we only bother talking to wrex after things have already gone to shit when we could have easily spent those 6 months working out a deal

    Edited:

    Really? Down in the Crew Quarters, there is a guy walking a circle around the elevator. And doing nothing else. I'm sure he's real busy with important, galaxy-at-stake things. Is it so much to ask to be able to return from a long mission to a nice, clean ship?
    he's busy guarding the elevator against geth infiltration
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows XP United States Show Events

  24. Post #29944
    Gold Member
    Psyche's Avatar
    September 2005
    524 Posts
    And how did this happen?
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows 7 United States Show Events

  25. Post #29945
    Mr. Scorpio's Avatar
    May 2010
    10,941 Posts
    And how did [i]this[i/] happen?
    Mass effect fields.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows XP United States Show Events

  26. Post #29946
    Gold Member
    Psychokitten's Avatar
    July 2009
    12,093 Posts
    And how did this happen?
    Adopted.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows 7 United States Show Events

  27. Post #29947
    Lemons in Bulk
    Cakebatyr's Avatar
    May 2005
    4,908 Posts
    Oh god the chaffing

    Also the amount of brand recognition the Alliance special forces have is getting kind of ridiculous. Do they have their own department store?
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows 7 Canada Show Events Agree Agree x 10 (list)

  28. Post #29948
    gay mexican
    Lankist's Avatar
    July 2006
    14,576 Posts
    I dun geddit.
    thats just, like, your opinion, man
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows 7 United States Show Events Zing Zing x 7Friendly Friendly x 1 (list)

  29. Post #29949
    Gold Member
    Psychokitten's Avatar
    July 2009
    12,093 Posts
    thats just, like, your opinion, man
    Ah.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows 7 United States Show Events Zing Zing x 1 (list)

  30. Post #29950
    USER HAS BEEN DISCONNECTED FROM REALITY - RETRY CONNECTION IN 5 MINUTES
    Dennab
    February 2006
    22,239 Posts
    yeah, because they're complete crazy assholes. so again, why would they care if shepard was under house arrest? wouldn't they just be sending jihadists or whatever to kill him regardless?


    who said anything about the alliance

    unlike Threpard who thinks earth is the bestest most important planet ever, i think the efforts should have focused on protecting the citadel, the seat of galactic government and off button for the galaxy

    just making sure that you have some sort of alliance worked out ahead of time instead of having to deal with it after the reapers have already hit would have saved tons of time and lives
    instead we only bother talking to wrex after things have already gone to shit when we could have easily spent those 6 months working out a deal

    Edited:



    he's busy guarding the elevator against geth infiltration
    This argument is going to start getting circular, so no, I don't agree. There probably isn't much of a point debating it since I doubt we are going to change each other's minds. We both have a different perception regarding the political situation.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows 7 United States Show Events

  31. Post #29951
    Mr. Scorpio's Avatar
    May 2010
    10,941 Posts
    This argument is going to start getting circular, so no, I don't agree. There probably isn't much of a point debating it since I doubt we are going to change each other's minds. We both have a different perception regarding the political situation.
    i just don't think that shepard was just leave his entire gathered crew behind, give himself in to the alliance, and then sit down for 6 months with his thumbs up his ass being vaguely annoyed

    it feels like they wanted to find some reason to make shepard not do anything for a while so things could happen in the plot, but they couldn't come up with anything good so they just sort of mumbled something about being arrested and then immediately shifted focus off of the subject
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows XP United States Show Events

  32. Post #29952
    USER HAS BEEN DISCONNECTED FROM REALITY - RETRY CONNECTION IN 5 MINUTES
    Dennab
    February 2006
    22,239 Posts
    i just don't think that shepard was just leave his entire gathered crew behind, give himself in to the alliance, and then sit down for 6 months with his thumbs up his ass being vaguely annoyed

    it feels like they wanted to find some reason to make shepard not do anything for a while so things could happen in the plot, but they couldn't come up with anything good so they just sort of mumbled something about being arrested and then immediately shifted focus off of the subject
    I also have the tendency to overthink and justify some bad writing. My mind works like this:

    <bad writing here>

    "This is bad writing, how can I justify wasting time out of my life reading/seeing this bullshit?"

    "I know! I'll overanalyze it and figure out how I can make this work out with a semblance of logic to it."

    It certainly makes it easier for me to enjoy mediocre writing, but arguing that the writing isn't mediocre to begin with is a lot harder.

    Also, as Grim Joker already knows, I don't care too much for the overall plot as long as the character development is good. As long as the plot seems cohesive, I can enjoy the characters.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows 7 United States Show Events

  33. Post #29953
    Gold Member
    Heigou's Avatar
    May 2006
    5,385 Posts
    Aww yeehhhhh, Geth infiltrator and Drell Vanguard in the same pack and I didn't have any of those two.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows 7 Canada Show Events

  34. Post #29954
    Dr. Conro J. Norock, Robot Sarcasm Master
    Conro101's Avatar
    July 2007
    7,700 Posts
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows 7 United States Show Events Funny Funny x 10 (list)

  35. Post #29955
    Mr. Scorpio's Avatar
    May 2010
    10,941 Posts
    I also have the tendency to overthink and justify some bad writing. My mind works like this:

    <bad writing here>

    "This is bad writing, how can I justify wasting time out of my life reading/seeing this bullshit?"

    "I know! I'll overanalyze it and figure out how I can make this work out with a semblance of logic to it."

    It certainly makes it easier for me to enjoy mediocre writing, but arguing that the writing isn't mediocre to begin with is a lot harder.

    Also, as Grim Joker already knows, I don't care too much for the overall plot as long as the character development is good. As long as the plot seems cohesive, I can enjoy the characters.
    honestly, i can say with 100% certainty that if the ending was good i wouldn't be complaining about any of this

    it was just so nonsensical in every way, every time i think about it i find some new horrible plot hole or logical inconsistency. then I think about the rest of the game with the same mindset, and what was a glazed over situation that really wasn't supposed to matter becomes a completely ridiculous mess


    i mean why even have a number to attach to war assets if the ending doesn't tell you what that number does and a lot of the things that contribute numbers couldn't even possibly affect the end

    and then there's the whole EDI moonbase thing. How exactly did an overpowered enemy AI system become self aware? Isn't that like a game engine becoming self aware? And why did Cerberus use it to make an AI when the first thing it did was try to kill everyone?

    and then you get my point. It's like a sweater with a loose thread I can't stop pulling.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows XP United States Show Events Agree Agree x 4 (list)

  36. Post #29956
    jp_rsardeto's Avatar
    March 2011
    2,852 Posts
    It would have been awesome if we could customize the multiplayer characters in the same way we can customize Shepard.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows 7 Brazil Show Events Agree Agree x 10 (list)

  37. Post #29957
    USER HAS BEEN DISCONNECTED FROM REALITY - RETRY CONNECTION IN 5 MINUTES
    Dennab
    February 2006
    22,239 Posts
    honestly, i can say with 100% certainty that if the ending was good i wouldn't be complaining about any of this

    it was just so nonsensical in every way, every time i think about it i find some new horrible plot hole or logical inconsistency. then I think about the rest of the game with the same mindset, and what was a glazed over situation that really wasn't supposed to matter becomes a completely ridiculous mess


    i mean why even have a number to attach to war assets if the ending doesn't tell you what that number does and a lot of the things that contribute numbers couldn't even possibly affect the end

    and then there's the whole EDI moonbase thing. How exactly did an overpowered enemy AI system become self aware? Isn't that like a game engine becoming self aware? And why did Cerberus use it to make an AI when the first thing it did was try to kill everyone?

    and then you get my point. It's like a sweater with a loose thread I can't stop pulling.
    Yea, I'm willing to suspend my disbelief for most of the plot. However, I can see why the ending can ruin the entire story for some people. I wish I could edit out the entire part with the Catalyst and just see the cinematic with Anderson and Shepard talking, and all the Reapers being destroyed. That is a perfectly acceptable ending, and in fact is fairly satisfying. The first time I went through the ending, I was actually surprised by how decent it was(considering I heard so many bad things about it), then I see the Catalyst and I'm like "What the fuck is this shit?"

    However, I try not to let the ending sour my experience with the game. I love Thane, I love Liara, I love Garrus, I love Wrex. Seeing their stories unfold is still satisfying enough for me to replay the series a few times.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Linux United States Show Events

  38. Post #29958
    gay mexican
    Lankist's Avatar
    July 2006
    14,576 Posts
    well RIP tali I guess
    nah fuck it dude
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows 7 United States Show Events Funny Funny x 1 (list)

  39. Post #29959
    Gold Member
    Goldenboy's Avatar
    December 2009
    1,981 Posts
    I was just thinking...

    Number of Asari councillors in my Mass Effect series playthrough: 1
    Number of Salarian councillors in my Mass Effect series playthrough: 1
    Number of Turian councillors in my Mass Effect series playthrough: 1
    Number of Human councillors in my Mass Effect series playthrough: 3

    We err...we don't have a great track record with these things, do we?
    In comparison to the other races, we're going through councillors like Whitesnake goes through drummers.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows 7 United Kingdom Show Events Informative Informative x 5 (list)

  40. Post #29960
    Gold Member
    Psychokitten's Avatar
    July 2009
    12,093 Posts
    I was just thinking...

    Number of Asari councillors in my Mass Effect series playthrough: 1
    Number of Salarian councillors in my Mass Effect series playthrough: 1
    Number of Turian councillors in my Mass Effect series playthrough: 1
    Number of Human councillors in my Mass Effect series playthrough: 3

    We err...we don't have a great track record with these things, do we?
    In comparison to the other races, we're going through councillors like Whitesnake goes through drummers.
    Well, two if you pick Udina in ME1.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Windows 7 United States Show Events