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that would take an entire game of set up and execution, and for what?
so you can sit down with sovereign junior and have a nice cup of tea discussing the logic of eradicating sentient life?
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But it wasn't.
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except that's not how logic works
there's no such thing as an "alien" explanation, just stupid explanations
what would even be the point of finding out the reason for their actions if in the end we're incapable of understanding as they've said multiple times?
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Unfortunately, true.
And that's where it all falls down, really, because in the end, the game is done, and no number of suggestions as to "What if we had this sideplot here?" or "What if this happened?" is going to change that.
Oh well.
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I always saw thats as we're physically incapable of comprehending them. Like they can see and interact with more than the 3 dimensions we inhabit. The Reapers always struck me as very literal.
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To be honest the one bit that I wouldn't have minded being left for 'speculation' would be the motive of the reapers.
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Agreed. I'd have been happier if they simply, were.
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It's science fiction..
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science
science fiction
not science fantasy, science fiction
as in fictional events taking place in the realm of science
do i need to get out a dictionary because i can
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How are they not important? Sovereign in ME, Harbinger in ME2, and ME3's based around stoping the Reapers in general.
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There are varying levels of science fiction. You have soft science fiction like Star Wars, which is pretty much fantasy in space, and you have hard science fiction like Star Trek where there are entire episodes dedicated entirely to how the tech works.
Mass Effect is hard science fiction, not as hard as Star Trek though, it has reasonable explinations for pretty much everything. Even when they bend or break established rules they give reasons as to how it works and explain that the new rules only applies when certain conditions are met, otherwise the old rule holds.
Then the ending starts tripping balls.
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As I've said. The Reapers are a call to action, a device. They're like zombies, they're important in that they are a constant element you must fight or evade. In Mass Effect the main antagonist is Saren, not Sovereign. In ME2 the Collectors kind of act as the main antagonist but the main plot of ME2 only exists to justify Shepard gathering allies.
Example, in Mass Effect Saren, the antagonist, is always one step ahead of you. He has agents who work to slow you down and through them and Saren himself you learn his motivations, to prove to the Reapers that we're more useful as slaves than resources. For most of the game we think Sovereign is just a powerful ship, and even when his identity is revealed he's just some evil thing. The final battle is still against Saren, he's still our main antagonist.
Saren is important, Sovereign isn't.
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My Reaction to the Mass Effect 3 endings.
No really.
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Oh my god, you know nothing of Lovecraft.
Never act like you know anything about H.P. Lovecraft again. The above quote is literally one of the stupidest things I've ever heard anyone say.
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What do you guys want for an ending? Shepard to walk away happy with 10 women, the Reapers gone to Russia, and everyone who died to be revived by Shepard's psychic powers? Why can't you just be happy and focus on more important things in the world then an ending to a video game?
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You're on an online forum, complaining about us complaining, mocking us, and then telling us to be happy and focus on more important things.
Having a conversation online about the ending to a video game does not dominate our lives. It's a conversation.
Furthermore, nobody said they wanted a happier ending. People would be fine with a super sad and dark ending. The problem with the ending as it is, is that it comes completely out of nowhere, is riddled with plot holes, contradicts existing lore, and then ends abruptly for the sake of LOTS OF SPECULATION.
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Ugh because everyone's going down the philosophical road of "it's the journey, not the destination" or some crap, lemme just leave this colorful metaphor here:
What if, after you've had 2 delicious sundaes at a restaurant, 90% of the way through your third, you realize that the "fudge" at the bottom of this last one is actually diarrhea. Would you eat it again? Would you continue to go to a restaurant that serves the diarrhea-surprise trilogy special?
Would you tell other people they're just entitled and whiny if they demand a diarrhea-free sundae?
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I find that the food comparisons are really accurate.
I also find that people who defend Bioware often ignore them.
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I hate Bioware's attitude regarding the DLC.
It's like they just can't admit they're wrong.
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we are streaming tomorrow, hopefully more than like a half hour. i'm also healthy now!
featuring Burt Reynolds as Garrus Vakarian
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From the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. thread:
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They'll probably just reveal something like the Omega DLC.
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Tali looks different.
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Darth is Casey's son
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I can understand why they won't talk about it, they probably want it to be a surprise as if you never even encountered RGB ending.
If that makes sense.
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There is no way in hell they're going to to able to hold to that. People will probably be yelling about it and jeering like crazy during the panel.
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Fuck, dude it's like those people who only know about Cthulhu from southpark
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I just had someone argue with me that the Indoctrination Theory is still totally canon.
I explained that Bioware said they weren't changing the ending or adding gameplay segments, they're just adding more cutscenes and some epilogue stuff to explain what happened to people, and as such, having Shepard go on to defeat The Reapers via some other means after waking up from the last few segments seems kind of difficult to pull off, and it would probably piss people off if the actual ending fight was just a big cutscene.
His logic?
"Yeah but the Epilogue could just be everyone dying because Shepard was indoctrinated, and it has a scene where Tali is raped by a bunch of Husks while her hands and feet are impaled on Dragon's Teeth and eaten by Harvesters."
I was literally speechless.
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He was completely serious, too.
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What the fuck?
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The extended cut is going to have two or three new scenes added in, and a shitty epilogue that someone wrote up in five minutes.
And Bioware will act surprised that people are still pissed off. This is like watching a slow motion car crash.
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And, in the process, it will make the people complaining about the endings look like a bunch of entitled brats, because Bioware did something for us that somehow didn't meet our "unreasonable" expectations.
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They are basically doing as little as possible to address the complaints that still allows them to pretend they listened.
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Darth Hudson? How fitting
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Mind, this already did happened early on when the ending started becoming more known, and almost everyone who was supporting the ending and called everyone against it "entitled" eventually changed their tune, barring some incredibly stubborn people.
It's probably just gonna be that all over again, only people would catch on more quickly. Only site I don't see changing their tune at all would be IGN, thanks to their walking ingame endorsement.
No matter how much Bioware attempts to control the PR damage by trying to warp intentions, they're only going to make the situation more dire for themselves, if they just admitted that the ending was unpopular instead of constantly denying it, claiming "artistic vision" and patting themselves on the back for something so silly then half this shit wouldn't have happened in the first place.
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I doubt it. I think people will simply stop buying Bioware products, and then EA will cannibalize them, as they did with WestWood and Bullfrog.
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The sky calls to us. If we do not destroy ourselves, we will one day venture to the stars.
August 2008
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So am I the only one suffering withdrawal now that the series is gone?
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I wouldn't if the ending was satisfying. I would just play through it again.
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Yeah. According to Wikipedia, Bioware saw a 97% drop in sales after the first month regarding Mass Effect 3. They're taking such massive hits to sales, I wouldn't be surprised if their next game is a total flop and then EA shuts them down.
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