1. Post #26601
    Ah yes "opinions"
    Jackald's Avatar
    October 2005
    16,955 Posts
    If Bioware just came out with a press statement saying "Look guys, we know we messed up, we'll make it up to you we promise, our fans are important to us" then i'd forgive them in a heartbeat.

    But I just keep getting this wave of arrogant "We're right, you're all wrong, but fuck you I guess we'll release some bullshit to appease you angry fuckers"
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  2. Post #26602
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    Janus Vesta's Avatar
    May 2007
    12,348 Posts
    After Mass effect 3:

    WAAAAAAH THE ENDINGS ARE AMBIGUOUS AND PROVIDE NO CLOSURE BIOWARE ARE HORRIBLE MASS EFFECT IS RUINED FOREVER

    After Bioware says they're working on DLC to clarify the endings:

    WAAAAAAAH WHY WON'T BIOWARE ADMIT TO BEING HORRIBLE
    "I have no credible response so I'l mock those I disagree with and imply they're children."
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  3. Post #26603
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    Darth_GW7's Avatar
    March 2008
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    But I just keep getting this wave of arrogant "We're right, you're all wrong, but fuck you I guess we'll release some bullshit to appease you angry fuckers"
    Question: Who made the game?
    How can they NOT be right?
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  4. Post #26604
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    August 2008
    1,539 Posts
    There is something evil about this page
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  5. Post #26605
    I'm not going to voice any opinion on Bioware until the DLC comes out.
    After all they are making it for free, so no whining from me.
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  6. Post #26606
    Lots Of Speculation For Everyone
    Greeneyes's Avatar
    April 2008
    1,832 Posts
    After Mass effect 3:

    WAAAAAAH THE ENDINGS ARE AMBIGUOUS AND PROVIDE NO CLOSURE BIOWARE ARE HORRIBLE MASS EFFECT IS RUINED FOREVER

    After Bioware says they're working on DLC to clarify the endings:

    WAAAAAAAH WHY WON'T BIOWARE ADMIT TO BEING HORRIBLE
    Closure and Clarity are to very different things.
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  7. Post #26607
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    Darth_GW7's Avatar
    March 2008
    7,680 Posts
    "I have no credible response so I'l mock those I disagree with and imply they're children."
    I wasn't even responding to anything that is literally what you guys are like right now

    I mean jesus one of the major complaints was "We don't understand what's going on! The endings don't make sense! There's no closure!"
    and now they're saying they're fixing that

    WHAT DO YOU WANT MAKE UP YOUR MINDS GODDAMN
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  8. Post #26608
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    JeanLuc761's Avatar
    March 2010
    8,026 Posts
    After Mass effect 3:

    WAAAAAAH THE ENDINGS ARE AMBIGUOUS AND PROVIDE NO CLOSURE BIOWARE ARE HORRIBLE MASS EFFECT IS RUINED FOREVER

    After Bioware says they're working on DLC to clarify the endings:

    WAAAAAAAH WHY WON'T BIOWARE ADMIT TO BEING HORRIBLE
    Because "clarification" is 99% doomed to failure. Yeah, we'll probably get answers like "Did I just destroy the entire galaxy?" but the hope that the GIGANTIC plot holes will be fixed and that our choices will matter to a significant degree is pretty much gone.

    Personally, I think this "artistic vision" excuse is a bit childish. It's a lot like I was when I was 14 and just learning 3dsmax and I thought everything I was producing was solid gold. Turns out, I sucked something awful and, instead of accepting that "okay, I should redo this and do better," I lashed out at people for not considering me to be awesome.
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  9. Post #26609
    Valor
    Novangel's Avatar
    September 2008
    19,398 Posts
    Crucible Mark II is being built.

    The very finest in Anti-Reaper rifles.
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  10. Post #26610
    I Love Gaylo 4
    Delta616's Avatar
    April 2006
    10,243 Posts
    Crucible Mark II is being built.

    The very finest in Anti-Reaper rifles.
    No, the Black Widow is.
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  11. Post #26611
    It would be amazing to see Shepard settle down with his LI.

    But that's closure, not clarity, so nope.
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  12. Post #26612
    Lots Of Speculation For Everyone
    Greeneyes's Avatar
    April 2008
    1,832 Posts
    There is something evil about this page
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  13. Post #26613
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    Janus Vesta's Avatar
    May 2007
    12,348 Posts
    I wasn't even responding to anything that is literally what you guys are like right now

    I mean jesus one of the major complaints was "We don't understand what's going on! The endings don't make sense! There's no closure!"
    and now they're saying they're fixing that

    WHAT DO YOU WANT MAKE UP YOUR MINDS GODDAMN
    They didn't say they're fixing it, they said they're explaining it. No one wants it to be explained because it's full of plot holes and goes against the themes of the series.
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  14. Post #26614
    Eyes like a god damn hawk
    H4wkeye's Avatar
    March 2011
    4,742 Posts
    Oooooh, threads are starting to get END OF LINED on BSN. Shit just got real.
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  15. Post #26615
    my manboobs are so large that they look like tits
    Dr. Gestapo's Avatar
    October 2011
    1,878 Posts
    I'm just glad they're doing something, sure, it isn't what we wanted, but anything is better than the current ending.
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  16. Post #26616
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    JeanLuc761's Avatar
    March 2010
    8,026 Posts
    I'm just glad they're doing anything at all, sure, it isn't what we wanted, but anything is better than the current ending.
    Well, that's what we're hoping anyway.

    As has been said elsewhere, if this somehow goes wrong...the resulting firestorm is going to make the past month look like a box of kittens.
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  17. Post #26617
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    February 2006
    6,780 Posts
    Question: Who made the game?
    How can they NOT be right?
    That is... completely wrong. Just because they made it doesn't mean it's not shit.
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  18. Post #26618
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    March 2008
    7,680 Posts
    They didn't say they're fixing it, they said they're explaining it. No one wants it to be explained because it's full of plot holes and goes against the themes of the series.
    Doesn't explanation generally plug plotholes? If correctly done
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  19. Post #26619
    Mr. Scorpio's Avatar
    May 2010
    11,122 Posts
    Question: Who made the game?
    How can they NOT be right?
    because it's a shit ending

    They're spouting all of this DevianTart "it's mah vision" bullshit when at the end of the day they just plain fucked up.

    Say what you will about people who want the ending changed, we have reasons why it doesn't work. We want it changed for a reason. They're just plugging their ears and talking about how proud they are of themselves for releasing such an artistic and controversial game, without bothering to address any of the complaints being raised by tens of thousands of people.
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  20. Post #26620
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    Whatsinaname's Avatar
    February 2006
    6,780 Posts
    I wasn't even responding to anything that is literally what you guys are like right now

    I mean jesus one of the major complaints was "We don't understand what's going on! The endings don't make sense! There's no closure!"
    and now they're saying they're fixing that

    WHAT DO YOU WANT MAKE UP YOUR MINDS GODDAMN
    You obviously have no idea why people were upset about the ending in the first place.

    No one wants clarification for an ending that was terrible. The problem wasn't just that it was vague. It was completely unfitting, forced, and contradictory to everything Mass Effect is about.
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  21. Post #26621
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    December 2009
    1,981 Posts
    BioWare will expanding on the ending to Mass Effect 3 by creating additional cinematics and epilogue scenes to the existing ending sequences.
    Are the current endings awful? Yes. But at least this means I can finish up ME3 one last time, find out what happened to my friends, my squad and my allies, and then never pick up another "Mass" title ever again.
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  22. Post #26622
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    Darth_GW7's Avatar
    March 2008
    7,680 Posts
    That is... completely wrong. Just because they made it doesn't mean it's not shit.
    Whatever they say to be right is right, it's their fucking universe, they MADE it.
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  23. Post #26623
    my manboobs are so large that they look like tits
    Dr. Gestapo's Avatar
    October 2011
    1,878 Posts
    I just want some sort of epilogue showing what happens to all the races, maybe show them rebuilding and stuff, I don't know. I'm really expecting much from Bioware now.

    Darth_GW7 posted:
    Whatever they say to be right is right, it's their fucking universe, they MADE it.
    It's their universe, hence whatever they say happened is canon, still doesn't mean it isn't terrible.
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  24. Post #26624
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    February 2010
    14,595 Posts
    I wasn't even responding to anything that is literally what you guys are like right now

    I mean jesus one of the major complaints was "We don't understand what's going on! The endings don't make sense! There's no closure!"
    and now they're saying they're fixing that

    WHAT DO YOU WANT MAKE UP YOUR MINDS GODDAMN
    The more people thought about the endings, the more they realized that "clarification" would just clarify how bad the endings. It's like asking for the manager because your steak is still frozen in places, and he comes over, measures it temperature, and says, "Yep, sure is!"
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  25. Post #26625
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    Whatsinaname's Avatar
    February 2006
    6,780 Posts
    Whatever they say to be right is right, it's their fucking universe, they MADE it.
    Yeah, which is why it's so amazing that they managed to completely contradict a lot of things they made up themselves. They made an ending that makes absolutely no sense in the context of their OWN UNIVERSE THAT THEY MADE UP. How does one fuck up that badly?
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  26. Post #26626
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    May 2007
    12,348 Posts
    Well, that's what we're hoping anyway.

    As has been said elsewhere, if this somehow goes wrong...the resulting firestorm is going to make the past month look like a box of kittens.
    They REALLY need to look at what the community is saying. It's been a month of some of the angriest nerd rage I've ever seen. And a month on the internet is a long fucking time. I don't think Bioware quite understands the position they're in, or the fact that the Indoctrination Theory has given tem a second chance. If they fuck up it'll be one of the biggest outcries on the internet, which while impressive on it's own is not a reputation you want.
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  27. Post #26627
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    May 2010
    11,122 Posts
    Whatever they say to be right is right, it's their fucking universe, they MADE it.
    Are you entirely sure what it is you're talking about right now . . .?
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  28. Post #26628
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    March 2010
    8,026 Posts
    Whatever they say to be right is right, it's their fucking universe, they MADE it.
    Bullshit. Pure bullshit. When you build a universe, as Bioware did, you create a set of rules in order to ensure logical narrative cohesion. This is why the massive Codex goes into so much detail about the rules of the Mass Effect universe relative to our own, and why everything works in a justifiable, scientific manner. Breaking, changing or adding one of these rules is extremely difficult to pull off but no matter what, it HAS to be explained in a way that fits the existing logic of the universe. If this is not done, then you just created a gigantic plot hole and destroyed part of the integrity of your universe.

    This is EXACTLY what Bioware did with the ending.
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  29. Post #26629
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    August 2006
    6,968 Posts
    They REALLY need to look at what the community is saying. It's been a month of some of the angriest nerd rage I've ever seen. And a month on the internet is a long fucking time. I don't think Bioware quite understands the position they're in, or the fact that the Indoctrination Theory has given tem a second chance. If they fuck up it'll be one of the biggest outcries on the internet, which while impressive on it's own is not a reputation you want.
    I just can't wait for the further "ENTITLED, GAMING RUINED, COMPLAINING ABOUT FREE DLC" articles after the DLC is just as bad as the ending we got.
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  30. Post #26630
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    April 2008
    1,832 Posts
    Whatever they say to be right is right, it's their fucking universe, they MADE it.
    They can write what they want. Doesn't make it good.
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  31. Post #26631
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    March 2010
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    They REALLY need to look at what the community is saying. It's been a month of some of the angriest nerd rage I've ever seen. And a month on the internet is a long fucking time. I don't think Bioware quite understands the position they're in, or the fact that the Indoctrination Theory has given tem a second chance. If they fuck up it'll be one of the biggest outcries on the internet, which while impressive on it's own is not a reputation you want.
    I'll be stunned if the Indoctrination Theory isn't utilized. It's not totally solid, but it really is the biggest "Here's a free pass to redeem yourselves" that I've seen in a while.
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  32. Post #26632
    Eyes like a god damn hawk
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    I'll be stunned if the Indoctrination Theory isn't utilized. It's not totally solid, but it really is the biggest "Here's a free pass to redeem yourselves" that I've seen in a while.
    But BioWare won't use it. They are too full of themselves.

    Edit: Also "ARTISTIC INTEGRITY" and "ARTISTIC VISION"
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  33. Post #26633
    I Love Gaylo 4
    Delta616's Avatar
    April 2006
    10,243 Posts
    But BioWare won't use it. They are too full of themselves.
    You don't know that, it could go both ways.
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  34. Post #26634
    my manboobs are so large that they look like tits
    Dr. Gestapo's Avatar
    October 2011
    1,878 Posts
    GetBent posted:
    I just can't wait for the further "ENTITLED, GAMING RUINED, COMPLAINING ABOUT FREE DLC" articles after the DLC is just as bad as the ending we got.
    I could give less of a shit about those gaming journalism websites, they're all just sucking EA's dick for money as per usual.
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  35. Post #26635
    I am a moderator.
    Swebonny's Avatar
    August 2006
    13,081 Posts
    Crucible Mark II is being built.

    The very finest in Anti-Reaper rifles.
    I run around with that and the claymore on my Krogan soldier during Bronze games. I can feel the hate trough the Ethernet cable.
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  36. Post #26636
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    Greeneyes's Avatar
    April 2008
    1,832 Posts
    I run around with that and the claymore on my Krogan soldier during Bronze games. I can feel the hate trough the Ethernet cable.
    I find firing off stasis buddle just before a Krogan melees stops his attack from registering.

    So I go around trolling Krogan.
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  37. Post #26637
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    March 2010
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    I find firing off stasis buddle just before a Krogan melee stops his attack from registering.

    So I go around trolling Krogan.
    Krogan Sentinel reporting in to say: You are the worst kind of person :(
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  38. Post #26638
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    February 2008
    10,982 Posts
    They REALLY need to look at what the community is saying. It's been a month of some of the angriest nerd rage I've ever seen. And a month on the internet is a long fucking time. I don't think Bioware quite understands the position they're in, or the fact that the Indoctrination Theory has given tem a second chance. If they fuck up it'll be one of the biggest outcries on the internet, which while impressive on it's own is not a reputation you want.
    i swear if the ending has even a whiff of indoctrination theory i will go to every single fucker who mentioned that on bsn and pour ants in their fucking pants

    Edited:

    I find firing off stasis buddle just before a Krogan melee stops his attack from registering.

    So I go around trolling Krogan.
    and then he eats you
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  39. Post #26639
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    March 2008
    7,680 Posts
    They can write what they want. Doesn't make it good.
    "good" is 100% subjective, point being whatever they say will be right/canon, whatever the fuck you want to call it, you're just gonna have to deal with it
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  40. Post #26640
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    February 2008
    10,982 Posts
    I could give less of a shit about those gaming journalism websites, they're all just sucking EA's dick for money as per usual.
    ahaha, nobody is sucking. EA's dick, even being mentioned in the same senteance as. EA would be suicide.
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