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I play German arty, basically because I started WoT in the German tree. American arty is good too, though.
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British can just have another Centurion mark variety tbh.
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Its funny that the KV-2 is more effective in high tier rounds (8+) than a bloody Tiger I.
That 107mm can do some serious damage to high tier opponents if you can flank them.
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I played german arty up to the hummel and it was actually pretty fun. I loved my little grille, TD mode grille was boss as fuck. Little tiny speedy pz38 chassis and a longbarrel 150. I once killed a T29 one on one with it. I hit him once coming up the hill, then I hid behind the rock until he got up the hill. I hit him again in the side and floored it towards him. I assume his turret was damaged because I was able to circle him clockwise pretty good. Every time the gun loaded, I would take a hard right and aim for the tracks. I hit him 3 times like that, the 2nd one set him on fire. 3rd finished him off and won the match.
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Right, and leave them horribly underpowered in the face of their counterparts.
This isn't how this works, This is what we're dealing with:
Leopard 1 Prototype (only step forward, there exist literally no other possible candidates)
AMX-30 Prototype (Developed after the AMX-50 and Bat Chat Programs fell through, came about in the fallout from the Doomed Europa-Panzer joint Project which Also spawned the Leopard 1)
T-62 ( Next in line after the T-54/55 and compatible with the German and French options, of which no other candidates for them exist)
These three set the tone for T10 mediums, the British and Americans are forced to up scale along with them to their contemporaries at the time, being the Chieftain and M60 or T95, however these tanks are all quite balanced against each other.
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An Honestly If you're just going to put the L7 on the T95 you might as well just put the M60 in because at that point it's essentially the same fucking tank.
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Actually, theres another medium project soviets had before the T-62, I remember it was mentioned in this topic somewhere but too lazy to dig for it. Plus, the Chieftain is more of a heavy tank then a medium and the Centurions will do fine. Centurions were a great tank after all and If I'm not mistaken they did fight off T-62's and won...ish...so they're not underpowered compared to the T-62 and other mediums/MBT's you suggested...
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Wot forums
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As I said the T95 is different from the M60. The T95 has composite armor and a lot more expensive. It was going to be the tank of tanks for its era but the only thing holding it back was the actual repairing of this composite armor which would've been quite hard to do on the field at the time. The T95 was lighter and faster then the M60 as well as having more protection then it did. So no, it inst "essentially the same fucking tank."
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Disregarding the fact that after the T95 failed it was recycled into the M60, the most visible component borrowed being the turret.
and the Devs have said that composite armor isn't going to be in the game or the T110 would also have Composite.
So yes it would function as essentially the same tank.
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T95 didnt really fail...plus, T110 didnt have composite armor planned. Unless you can find a source to say this? Most details on the T110 are hard to find and I've seen nothing from what I've read about the T110 getting composite armor.
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http://forum.worldoftanks.com/index....gineers-mouth/
In monstrously complicated detail.
Also did the T95 get into service?, No, then it failed.
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The Patton is a pile of useless mediocrity which only excells in eating shit and dieing. Your power lies in being able to spontaneously catch on fire when enemies look at you, amusing them so greatly that they lose battle effectiveness. You are slowest of all mediums, the only less armored one being BatShit crazy french pancake on crack which is actually fast and can shoot shit to death. Your literally only single advantage are high accuracy on the move and long view range.
If Patton was a mother, it would be the kind that banished your father, gets drunk every evening, chainsmokes, and feeds you with chicken nuggets exclusively from the moment you grow your first tooth.
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IS-4 was in service and the russian military called it a fail..Plus, two weeks ago you were suggestiong the T95 as the top tier medium in this thread. Why the change in heart?
and secondly, if you actually read the thread The_Chieftain even states there are no sources to this at all.
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Well, from view of some of the Nazi strategists, even Tiger was a failure (they wanted Panthers instead).
Historical performance has nigh no value in the game, regardless of precision of modelling of it's on the spot performance and features, you just can't take things like reliability, range, traveling speed, repair complexity, production complexity, and so on, in consideration, so the performance of the vehicle depends on completely different things.
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And you dismissed it as OP, why'd You bring it up again?
it's word of mouth sure, but it's far to detailed for someone to just have pulled it out of their ass.
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Thats not the FV215b. This is the FV215b
Same 183mm gun, on a conqueror chassis as opposed to a Centurion.
Also, for a tier 10 medium, what about the FV4202?
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Has some nice dirty Challenger action.
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Thats not the FV215b. This is the FV215b
Same 183mm gun, on a conqueror chassis as opposed to a Centurion.
Also, for a tier 10 medium, what about the FV4202?
There are two models of such, one with the big box and one without it. I can go find a picture of it "naked" if you wish me too.
After thinking for a bit between them two weeks...and..most likely the only people going to be shooting HE at you is arty, so you'll be better protected from arty and thats a good thing as far as I'm concerned
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These tanks. I must have them.Thats not the FV215b. This is the FV215b
Same 183mm gun, on a conqueror chassis as opposed to a Centurion.
Also, for a tier 10 medium, what about the FV4202?
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It looks nice. Do it.
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Perhaps WG accounted for the "power creep" and it's the reason why Brits are being added after all the other main nations. With their 183mms and whatnot. The best come last.
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except it wouldn't get composite armor.
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Though this is true the only logical option for a german Tier10 medium would be a leopard 1 prototype, because of this wargaming will probabley buff the T-62 along with any of the other tier10 mediums that don't quite make it. Thus resulting in the need to add the chieftan.
We also have to remember that wargaming will NEVER share guns between nations, they don't even let Td's use the guns from the other vehicles. So the american heavy tanks will probabley not get the L7 since its a british gun. (The only exception to this may be if they pull a typicalwargaming and change the name of the gun slightly.)
P.s Fuck the chieftan hes just some guy who thinks he knows everything about tanks.
They're coming next.
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They can always use the American branded L7 105mm which was the M68(I think) 105mm. Sorta like how the french have the M58 120mm except...french'd
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Oh and another thing about the Chieftain.
He cited one book as the source for the T110 and then WG filled in the blanks.
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I'm pretty sure I said that anyway.
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Every time I see that video I'm reminded of how different modern tanks are compared to WW2. I mean christ that turret traverse is hilariously quick for something so large.
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So i'd really like to start joining the clan wars with you guys, i'm on the computer most of the time (atleast until about 10pm north eastern time america) I was wondering what kind of tanks you guys needed? i could grind any line you want. I'm fairly decent with my t-50 so i guess i'm a good scout
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arty is what we're in short supply of these days, More T110s are always nice.
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IS-4 get, woop-woop. 7.3 I am ready for you with body and soul.
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My face when the T110 is actual profitable with premium
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What would they do about the Japanese to make them possibly overpowered compared to the germans or americans though lmao
Their penultimate late 60's MBT consisted of a tank that went 45km/h, had an unstabilized 90mm gun and had only 60mm of armor and it's supposed to be a tier 9 medium for some reason???
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I think I've finally figured out the purpose of arty! It's there to counter skillful tanking. Let's say there's a really good tanker who is just outplaying the enemy team with awesome angling, aiming at weak spots, etc. If you get a couple of those people on the team they are all but impossible to beat with mediocre tankers driving traditional tanks, but an arty... that's an entirely different story. An arty can beat all that skillful tanking from an uncounterable position and is completely independent on all that otherwise skillful tanking.
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I'll start grinding towards the t110 asap, any specific line of artillery?
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we need 261s
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There is the FV4005 stage 1 featuring an automatic loader and limited traverse, and the FV4005 stage 2 featuring the lightly armored "box" being fully traversable.
The FV4202 is a centurion modified with concepts that would be later used on the chieftain (Reclined gunner position and such). Funnily enough, it actually weighed less than the centurion, but had better protection. So basically, a centurion but better in every area.
Sadly, the FV215b may be put in as a tier 10 heavy, not because it is the best choice, but because its the only one.
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What about the Chieftain 1959 prototype?
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From what I remember of yesterday you use a tank with a long gun barrel and put it inside the barrel of the arty and when he fires he hits himself somehow since the shell starts at the beginning of the barrel.
Might have gotten it wrong but it's something like that.
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