1. Post #5001
    Dreams of chronic and sustained critglows.
    ned_ballad's Avatar
    December 2010
    17,008 Posts
    well, after this update there won't be a lot we know is coming in the future.

    Two of the longest anticipated features of TF2, Raid Mode and Meet the Pyro, will finally be released. After this there will be no more class specific Meet The videos and we won't know anything about future game modes until another leak.

    This feels like it'll be the close of a chapter of TF2, and we move into new and exciting frontiers of updating.
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  2. Post #5002
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    Lord Exor's Avatar
    September 2011
    1,451 Posts
    Jump-revving around corners isn't some magical ability that only the most skilled Heavies can perform. But it's a tactical strategy that is only really employed properly by people who know what they're doing. Lowering his spinup speed doesn't hamper his ability to push offensively, he's still going to be a moving glacier that spits bullets. The Heavy is about asserting his position and then pushing from there, not about fast areal movements like the Soldier and Demoman.

    No one will be forced to hold his hand, he's got more weapons than a minigun. But remember that this is Team Fortress 2; his weaknesses can be mitigated by working together with teammates.

    And do remember that I am not calling for a revert of the movespeed when firing buff that he got. Even with a slower initial spinup, he'll be able to weave through spam just as well as he can now. And he'll be just as capable of disengaging from a firefight because the spindown buff isn't being called for a revert.

    There's a perfectly ready beta that is open for testing things. The TF team has no reason to not try to test these sorts of changes out.
    Who said anything about jump-revving being some esoteric novelty? I jump-rev almost incessantly in order to remain at full 77% walking speed while remaining ready for anything. The Tomislav allows for this tactic, it works, and it greatly improves Heavy's ability to remain on the offensive. The Tomislav also allows Heavy to engage and disengage an enemy spamming projectiles--this effectively grants the Heavy a limited ability to dodge while also being able to fire readily before you even touch the ground.

    Furthermore, what other weapons are you referring to? Shotgun? lolololol
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  3. Post #5003
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    Mr_Awesome's Avatar
    November 2011
    3,060 Posts
    I have a feeling either tomorrow or Thursday we'll get something big.
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  4. Post #5004
    Devozade's Avatar
    November 2010
    660 Posts
    Consider it the final wrapup of the STS leak if the trails of those weapons and hats has gone cold.
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  5. Post #5005
    Dreams of chronic and sustained critglows.
    ned_ballad's Avatar
    December 2010
    17,008 Posts
    Consider it the final wrapup of the STS leak if the trails of those weapons and hats has gone cold.
    STS leak only has Junkyard Justice, Mean Medicine, the Tudor Topper and the Bright Idea left un-added.

    Oh, and of course, Raid mode.

    Everything but Mean Medicine is on the Workshop, so let's see what happens. I think by the end of the month we'll have at least Day 1 (so that gives it 3 weeks), but they could go even later... which would be awful.
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  6. Post #5006
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    The Calzone's Avatar
    February 2011
    7,667 Posts
    well, after this update there won't be a lot we know is coming in the future.

    Two of the longest anticipated features of TF2, Raid Mode and Meet the Pyro, will finally be released. After this there will be no more class specific Meet The videos and we won't know anything about future game modes until another leak.

    This feels like it'll be the close of a chapter of TF2, and we move into new and exciting frontiers of updating.
    Or a new and exciting frontier of stagnancy and promotional headwear.

    oh wait that is neither new nor exciting #iceburn
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  7. Post #5007
    Ginger gizzard amateur~
    Dennab
    July 2011
    5,135 Posts
    and also the gardening pack.
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  8. Post #5008
    Dreams of chronic and sustained critglows.
    ned_ballad's Avatar
    December 2010
    17,008 Posts
    and also the gardening pack.
    that wasn't actually in the STS leak, for some reason.

    But I'd really like to see all three sets added. It's a shame only Junkyard Justice is currently on the workshop
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  9. Post #5009
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    Populus89's Avatar
    September 2009
    2,431 Posts
    Or we could get the Saxxies first. They were held in May last year. Just saying.
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  10. Post #5010
    alexdom's Avatar
    May 2011
    566 Posts
    also there is the sniper sten smg animations
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  11. Post #5011
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    The Calzone's Avatar
    February 2011
    7,667 Posts
    that wasn't actually in the STS leak, for some reason.

    But I'd really like to see all three sets added. It's a shame only Junkyard Justice is currently on the workshop
    honestly none of those sets really stand out to me. Aside from Mean Medicine, the other two sets don't seem to make sense.

    I also have a personal vendetta about giving the Pyro outright girly or "random" items. Pyro's a crazy person that lights people on fire, why would he put on a gardening hat with a big flower on it and blow people with a leafblower?
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  12. Post #5012
    Dreams of chronic and sustained critglows.
    ned_ballad's Avatar
    December 2010
    17,008 Posts
    By this time last year we had 3 new maps, 17 new hats and 4 weapons since the start of 2011
    In 2012 we have gotten 0 maps, 22 hats and 2 weapons (one is a reskin).

    We're well behind last year in content, despite the weekly items
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  13. Post #5013
    Clovernoodle's Avatar
    May 2011
    5,279 Posts
    Or we could get the Saxxies first. They were held in May last year. Just saying.
    I hope we're not getting them soon- I can't get my fucking computer working properly.
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  14. Post #5014
    Ginger gizzard amateur~
    Dennab
    July 2011
    5,135 Posts
    The beginning of this year looks way too much like the end of last year. I hope the end of this year will look like last year's beginning.
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  15. Post #5015
    Croshi's Avatar
    April 2009
    1,766 Posts
    By this time last year we had 3 new maps, 17 new hats and 4 weapons since the start of 2011
    In 2012 we have gotten 0 maps, 22 hats and 2 weapons (one is a reskin).

    We're well behind last year in content, despite the weekly items
    In 2011 we had 16 blog posts by now.
    In 2012 we have 4.

    And 3 of them are about hats.
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  16. Post #5016
    Dreams of chronic and sustained critglows.
    ned_ballad's Avatar
    December 2010
    17,008 Posts
    also note that of that 22 hats, almost half are craft only promos. One is the map makers medalion.

    Actually my count of last year is off, we got quite a few promos also (MNC, Homefront and Portal 2), and the two Rift weapons I forgot to count. The hat total for last year is actually higher than this year's. And also we also got 6 weapons, not the 4 I had originally said (I only counted the Shogun at the time, forgot the Rift items)

    So last year had a TON more content overall.
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  17. Post #5017
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    Hell-met's Avatar
    April 2009
    7,259 Posts
    I want to fight that robot boss in my map already.

    hurry up bender
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  18. Post #5018
    Devozade's Avatar
    November 2010
    660 Posts
    also note that of that 22 hats, almost half are craft only promos. One is the map makers medalion.

    Actually my count of last year is off, we got quite a few promos also (MNC, Homefront and Portal 2), and the two Rift weapons I forgot to count. The hat total for last year is actually higher than this year's. And also we also got 6 weapons, not the 4 I had originally said (I only counted the Shogun at the time, forgot the Rift items)

    So last year had a TON more content overall.

    That's why I feel this next one has got to be big. It can't not be for this wait.
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  19. Post #5019
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    October 2009
    5,179 Posts
    also note that of that 22 hats, almost half are craft only promos. One is the map makers medalion.

    Actually my count of last year is off, we got quite a few promos also (MNC, Homefront and Portal 2), and the two Rift weapons I forgot to count. The hat total for last year is actually higher than this year's. And also we also got 6 weapons, not the 4 I had originally said (I only counted the Shogun at the time, forgot the Rift items)

    So last year had a TON more content overall.
    Who knows what could be going on at Valve right now. Teams are in constant fluctuation making it nearly impossible to predict how many people are working on what at any given time. For all we know they finally started on EP3/HL3 or they are doing a big development push with CS:GO/DOTA2 pulling people away from TF2.
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  20. Post #5020
    Sharc's Avatar
    January 2010
    3,163 Posts
    Dota2 does have a few former tf2 team members working on it, but I thought CS:GO was being made by a second party?
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  21. Post #5021
    Dreams of chronic and sustained critglows.
    ned_ballad's Avatar
    December 2010
    17,008 Posts
    That's why I feel this next one has got to be big. It can't not be for this wait.
    I can't see them, after this long, to release Replay Update Pt2 with 6 glorious hats, a new menu background and a comic teasing MtP.

    That would just be... bad.
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  22. Post #5022
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    Political Gamer's Avatar
    October 2009
    5,179 Posts
    Dota2 does have a few former tf2 team members working on it, but I thought CS:GO was being made by a second party?
    CS:GO is a collaboration of Valve and Hidden Path Entertainment

    As for the team question see my first post; its always in fluctuation. People are free to jump from project to project when they feel its right. So yes DOTA2 could have some TF2 people and next month they could be back to TF2.
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  23. Post #5023
    Devozade's Avatar
    November 2010
    660 Posts
    I can't see them, after this long, to release Replay Update Pt2 with 6 glorious hats, a new menu background and a comic teasing MtP.

    That would just be... bad.
    Dont forget the Saxxy theme 2012!
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  24. Post #5024
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    Not_Yet's Avatar
    December 2008
    5,169 Posts
    we are due a major April update iirc, we get one every year
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  25. Post #5025
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    Jetamo's Avatar
    June 2008
    7,045 Posts
    I myself think we won't get anything till May... 3rd.

    (Or they open the Saxxy Awards early.)

    Edited:

    we are due a major April update iirc, we get one every year
    Not 2009.
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  26. Post #5026
    Grimhound's Avatar
    April 2011
    3,389 Posts
    we are due a major April update iirc, we get one every year
    If we get an update tonight, I will shave my head and post naked pictures of myself.

    Yes, I realize it's a Sunday. Fully aware.
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  27. Post #5027
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    Lord Exor's Avatar
    September 2011
    1,451 Posts
    STS leak only has Junkyard Justice, Mean Medicine, the Tudor Topper and the Bright Idea left un-added.

    Oh, and of course, Raid mode.

    Everything but Mean Medicine is on the Workshop, so let's see what happens. I think by the end of the month we'll have at least Day 1 (so that gives it 3 weeks), but they could go even later... which would be awful.
    Don't forget the Goalkeeper.
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  28. Post #5028
    QUACK
    Not_Yet's Avatar
    December 2008
    5,169 Posts
    If we get an update tonight, I will shave my head and post naked pictures of myself.

    Yes, I realize it's a Sunday. Fully aware.
    well, it won't

    but my reasoning to why i said we are due for april update as for the last two years we've had a somewhat major/big update in april

    but it might just be coincidence, idk
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  29. Post #5029
    Ginger gizzard amateur~
    Dennab
    July 2011
    5,135 Posts

    Not 2009.
    Sniper vs spy.
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  30. Post #5030
    UnrealCanine's Avatar
    December 2011
    239 Posts
    Sniper vs spy.

    That was May, although 2009 had the 119th update in April
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  31. Post #5031
    Can't Keep Johnny Down
    Hideous's Avatar
    April 2009
    2,372 Posts
    Sniper vs spy.
    May 21.
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  32. Post #5032
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    En Ex's Avatar
    July 2011
    1,724 Posts
    well, after this update there won't be a lot we know is coming in the future.

    Two of the longest anticipated features of TF2, Raid Mode and Meet the Pyro, will finally be released. After this there will be no more class specific Meet The videos and we won't know anything about future game modes until another leak.

    This feels like it'll be the close of a chapter of TF2, and we move into new and exciting frontiers of updating.
    What about Source Filmmaker? Will that be released with the Second Saxxy Awards?
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  33. Post #5033
    What about Source Filmmaker? Will that be released with the Second Saxxy Awards?
    it bloody well better be.
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  34. Post #5034
    Dreams of chronic and sustained critglows.
    ned_ballad's Avatar
    December 2010
    17,008 Posts
    Don't forget the Goalkeeper.
    considering Laro doesn't have anything yet that didn't eventually get accepted

    it's just a given at this point
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  35. Post #5035
    INFERIOR CROCODILE ALLIGATOR
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    January 2010
    1,413 Posts


    What if all of the update shit is made and such, and Valve only has to map out how they'll present it?
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  36. Post #5036
    Dreams of chronic and sustained critglows.
    ned_ballad's Avatar
    December 2010
    17,008 Posts
    I want a swamp map :(
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  37. Post #5037
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    September 2010
    1,087 Posts
    Just my opinion, but I thought the idea behind the Saxxy Awards was uninspired and ultimately unexciting. Maybe I'm jaded now because at the time I was so sure they'd segue into Meet the Medic with it, but I dunno. It just felt really blandly executed.

    I'm just hoping that this year there'll be loads of new weapons and/or a new game mode to keep my interest before Saxxy Awards 2012 hits.
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  38. Post #5038
    Sharc's Avatar
    January 2010
    3,163 Posts
    I want a swamp map :(
    koth_moonshine or arena_blackwood would be welcomed additions, don't know why they were never added.
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  39. Post #5039
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    May 2011
    236 Posts
    Okay here's a theory.

    So the Medic/Goldrush Update came out in April back in 2008. The Pyro Update, then came out later in June.

    Now the Uber Update (the second Medic update) came out in June of 2011. Which could mean that the second Pyro Update and Meet the Pyro COULD come out later this month!
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  40. Post #5040
    This title is totally OVERKILL™!
    Coyoteze's Avatar
    November 2011
    8,547 Posts
    What about Source Filmmaker? Will that be released with the Second Saxxy Awards?
    Wouldn't make sense if it wasn't, especially seeing how they mentioned this years Saxxy's would be better than last year. The only way I can see that being true is if they release SFM for people to make custom animations.

    Then comes the question if Meet the Pyro comes first, or after. They DID say SFM would be released tied with the final Meet-video.
    Alternatively SFM is released, and MTP is in the install files.
    Or, it's there as a saved project-file, and when you open it you have to render it yourself - but it also functions as a guideline for how SFM works and what you can do with it thus guiding you how to make awesome videos for the Saxxy's.

    *~theories~*
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