1. Post #4641
    Raffle Rigger
    Psychopath12's Avatar
    November 2010
    16,492 Posts
    i find the quickfix ubercharge pretty decent when your team is under heavy fire you can just megaheal EVRYONE to keep them alive instead of pocketing 1 heavy or soldier and having the rest of the team die
    Except the penalty for switching targets will drain your Megaheal very very fast.

    The thing needs that penalty removed and its beta attributes again. Right now it's gotten the shaft.
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  2. Post #4642
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    The Calzone's Avatar
    February 2011
    7,572 Posts
    there's no reason you can't throw the Dalokohs Bar besides laziness. This would help it a lot. I'd even argue for a faster eating speed, but that would mess would sound effects, so maybe not.

    Quick-Fix was great in the beta and they ruined it for no real reason

    Short Circuit LOLOLOLOLO

    Except Scout isn't a Pyro and Pyro and Scout don't really have anything worth working together for. Plus the damage, even with crits, from SoS is basically the same as a shotgun blast

    The Kunai is a gigantic, permanent downside with a somewhat minor, hard to obtain and temporary upside.
    Giving the Dalokohs bar the Sandvich's old ability to be eaten with the player's feet at a reasonable decrease in HP gain would be a nice buff for the item.

    Totally agree on the Quick-Fix, it used to be wonderful and actually worth using. Remember, this was the same update that brought the perfectly functional Detonator in to the game completely broken for no reason. Someone on the balancing team had a pole up his ass against actually useful classes.

    The Kunai is a bit of a funny case. While it isn't terribly useful, it's a lot of fun to use. I don't think it needs that much of a buff. Maybe make the first few backstabs good for a permanent health increase?

    The horrendous thing about the SOAS is that the crit from it is less powerful than a normal bat's crit. Really unless you're that fucking desperate to either help out Pyros or to "steal their kills," you're better off with any other melee weapon, and even then at that range you're better off with your scattergun. The only reason the Scout even has a melee weapon is to be a complete asshole and to have a slot for passive bonuses.

    i find the quickfix ubercharge pretty decent when your team is under heavy fire you can just megaheal EVRYONE to keep them alive instead of pocketing 1 heavy or soldier and having the rest of the team die
    Okay yeah see what you're doing there that's what I hate about discussing the Quick-Fix. Say one negative thing about the quick-fix and its uses come out of the fucking walls and start accusing people of being pocket medics exclusively. Just because I like to be able to overheal people doesn't mean I'm a pocket medic dammit. A Medic that is able to keep his team overhealed constantly will be able to outperform a Quick-Fix medic in every situation.
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  3. Post #4643
    fuck you inspecter I do what I want
    Inspecter's Avatar
    August 2009
    9,053 Posts
    Is D3v0r the Dapper guy or something?
    No the NAppers and Swatter guy AKA the last person I need for the manniversary pack.
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  4. Post #4644
    UnrealCanine's Avatar
    December 2011
    217 Posts
    It also needs the proper speed boost


    ANY faster heal target, not just scouts
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  5. Post #4645
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    Hell-met's Avatar
    April 2009
    7,095 Posts
    i find the quickfix ubercharge pretty decent when your team is under heavy fire you can just megaheal EVRYONE to keep them alive instead of pocketing 1 heavy or soldier and having the rest of the team die
    and that hardly works thanks to valve letting in the multiple ubercharge penalty in for the quickfix


    It also needs the proper speed boost


    ANY faster heal target, not just scouts

    it works on disciplinary action'd targets and demoknights, I can confirm with cl_showpos 1. Not sure about pyro gear.
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  6. Post #4646
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    Demon!'s Avatar
    November 2011
    4,968 Posts
    It also needs the proper speed boost


    ANY faster heal target, not just scouts
    The Medic's the second fastest class in the game though.

    Unless it were to factor in stuff like the GRU and Steak or the Disciplinary Action.
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  7. Post #4647
    Urser's Avatar
    July 2011
    571 Posts
    The Medic's the second fastest class in the game though.
    I think he means charging Demomen, rocket jumping Soldiers/sticky jumping Demomen, etc.

    Just anyone who you couldn't normally catch up with.
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  8. Post #4648
    Ask me about my pony player models!
    Constructor's Avatar
    July 2011
    10,055 Posts
    It works on charging demomen.
    I know from experience.
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  9. Post #4649
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    The Calzone's Avatar
    February 2011
    7,572 Posts
    I think he means charging Demomen, rocket jumping Soldiers/sticky jumping Demomen, etc.

    Just anyone who you couldn't normally catch up with.
    This reminds me, does anyone remember that one mod that turned the Medic's heal beam in to a tether? That would be fucking awesome to have as a medigun.
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  10. Post #4650
    Devozade's Avatar
    November 2010
    660 Posts
    It works on charging demomen.
    I know from experience.
    Since when?
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  11. Post #4651
    smashbrother101's Avatar
    May 2011
    236 Posts
    I'm curious about the Defensive Engineer Pack...

    It's been on the front page for at least two weeks now, so clearly the community really likes it, but it kinda' goes against what Valve has said about the Engineer. Although, it hasn't been rejected yet.

    I dunno, thoughts?
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  12. Post #4652
    tso
    tso's Avatar
    May 2011
    1,181 Posts
    don't think they purge the possible entries much
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  13. Post #4653
    Bonk Boy! NaNaNaNaNa...
    BANG!'s Avatar
    July 2006
    865 Posts
    You just wait
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  14. Post #4654
    BanthaFodder's Avatar
    May 2011
    6,262 Posts
    I'm late on this, but the Toothkickers+Spurs look fucking gorgeous.
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  15. Post #4655
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    Demon!'s Avatar
    November 2011
    4,968 Posts
    I'm curious about the Defensive Engineer Pack...

    It's been on the front page for at least two weeks now, so clearly the community really likes it, but it kinda' goes against what Valve has said about the Engineer. Although, it hasn't been rejected yet.

    I dunno, thoughts?
    It took a very long time for some very well made stuff to be rejected, just because this hasn't been rejected in the short amount of time it's been up doesn't mean it will be accepted.

    I think it's a very cool pack, but I really don't think Valve's going to add brand new buildings for the Engy. They're either going to make another sentry that can't be upgraded and uses existing animations, or they're going to build off the sentry bases/break their word and add bodygroups to it to make new sentries that require little reworking to implement, i.e. the Kritz and Backburner.
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  16. Post #4656
    Dennab
    September 2011
    10,298 Posts
    You just wait
    Okay this post confirmed that Bang's demo pack is in the next big update.
    Tell us your secrets.

    FAIS LE
    POUR LA FRANCE
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  17. Post #4657
    Dreams of chronic and sustained critglows.
    ned_ballad's Avatar
    December 2010
    16,941 Posts
    Bang's demo pack is in the next big update.
    Tell us your secrets.

    FAIS LE
    POUR LA FRANCE
    I was thinking the same thing, minus the france part
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  18. Post #4658
    Dennab
    September 2011
    10,298 Posts
    minus the france part
    Go away from earth.
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  19. Post #4659
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    Hell-met's Avatar
    April 2009
    7,095 Posts
    Since when?
    I think they "fixed" it on the halloween update.

    which would make sense considering people coming out of the underworld run fast. So valve probably tried the quickfix on a buffed teammate and they saw it didn't work.
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  20. Post #4660
    In the meantime have some creative update-based writing:

    I do not know what day it is, It has been two, maybe three weeks since the last update, I am lost in a room inside CP_Well, I have not had a new weapon mailed to me in years. I am running out of time, water, and bullets. I cannot stop the scouts for long..

    Nobody has capped the points since 2009, Ever since hats started dropping and new maps were added, People fled the map, Going to new, more fortunate ground. There are none left to defend the fort, only me, my trusty rocket launcher, shovel, and shotgun.

    I am the last RED standing.
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  21. Post #4661
    Grimhound's Avatar
    April 2011
    3,231 Posts
    If there isn't more than just an item today, I am going to burn down a building.
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  22. Post #4662
    Dennab
    September 2011
    10,298 Posts
    If there isn't more than just an item today, I am going to burn down a building.
    Considering there was no new hero in Dota 2, take your lighter.
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  23. Post #4663
    Bonk Boy! NaNaNaNaNa...
    BANG!'s Avatar
    July 2006
    865 Posts
    The last thing about an item Valve emailed me was just about donating the holiday headacase and that same day Bay Raitt commented on the pyro axe I made for christmas about making a little change, but since then not a word, I just don't understand how comes Ronin and Psyke get to know when their items are going to be updated or added ingame, I never got an early notification, except for the holiday headcase since they asked if I would donate it.

    I just meant we'll have to wait, like hopefully tonight's the night, like every thursday night.
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  24. Post #4664
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    Lord Exor's Avatar
    September 2011
    1,426 Posts
    Tonight's the night.










    For a crappy misc.
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  25. Post #4665
    Dreams of chronic and sustained critglows.
    ned_ballad's Avatar
    December 2010
    16,941 Posts
    at least there's a good chance it'll drop day 1
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  26. Post #4666
    Robmortar's Avatar
    April 2007
    989 Posts
    tonight is the night for valve to poop all over our hopes and dreams for a quality update
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  27. Post #4667
    Dreams of chronic and sustained critglows.
    ned_ballad's Avatar
    December 2010
    16,941 Posts
    tonight is the night for valve to poop all over our hopes and dreams for a quality update
    maybe they'll add a dove like map prop or something

    then it'd be exciting
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  28. Post #4668
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    Goodwell's Avatar
    July 2011
    7,783 Posts
    maybe they'll add a dove like map prop or something

    then it'd be exciting
    I'd laugh if they added random piles of scrap into maps. Just to tease.

    Then i'd be sad because there's still no update.
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  29. Post #4669
    Damian0358's Avatar
    January 2012
    3,660 Posts
    maybe they'll add a dove like map prop or something

    then it'd be exciting
    maybe a lighter? or a gas tank? or a bomb?
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  30. Post #4670
    i have an ear fetish and lie like a basterd. i wasn't lying about the ears though. what a shitty title.
    Linda,Octupuss's Avatar
    December 2011
    1,424 Posts
    I'd laugh if they added random piles of scrap into maps. Just to tease.

    Then i'd be sad because there's still no update.
    Piles of scrap, reclaimed and refined metal!
       they explode when shot ofcourse   
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  31. Post #4671
    Grimhound's Avatar
    April 2011
    3,231 Posts
    Not yet. Hmm. So, yeah. I'm on edge. Not sure what's going to happen, if anything. Hoping for something.
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  32. Post #4672
    BanthaFodder's Avatar
    May 2011
    6,262 Posts
    maybe a lighter? or a gas tank? or a bomb?
    Maps like Thundermountain that show bots looking at a bulleting board or swimming or whatever?
    The bots are now carrying nukes and various parts around.

       that'd be really cool...   
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  33. Post #4673
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    TRLEChippers's Avatar
    December 2009
    1,149 Posts
    In the meantime have some creative update-based writing:

    I do not know what day it is, It has been two, maybe three weeks since the last update, I am lost in a room inside CP_Well, I have not had a new weapon mailed to me in years. I am running out of time, water, and bullets. I cannot stop the scouts for long..

    Nobody has capped the points since 2009, Ever since hats started dropping and new maps were added, People fled the map, Going to new, more fortunate ground. There are none left to defend the fort, only me, my trusty rocket launcher, shovel, and shotgun.

    I am the last RED standing.


    It has been 119 days since the last update. Australian Christmas was a good time. Sure, there were the problems of exclusive crate items and what have you, but it was good. Then the update drought came, and they started getting less and less frequent. They have been getting worse in quality as well. I have only managed to salvage a few items of worth since the New Year. A loose shirt, a pipe and glasses. And only one item of practical use, a backpack, which is useless in the current environment. The rest is junk. Candles, old cowboy boots, conquistador helmets all lie discarded behind me.

    I cannot take it any longer. Just a couple of weeks ago, I saw promise in the form of a new update; but these three new hats belong to only three people. The chances of me getting them are next to naught. And there are these new "strange parts", but when the few traders I encounter demand such high prices for strange weapons, what's the point?

    One more thing before I sign off. The few players I encounter in my travels recount seeing strange things in Foundry, rumours and mutterings about a so-called "tobor". These better be signs of an upcoming major update. Maybe the resurgence of the Saxxy Awards, all but forgotten by the update-starved commoners like me. Maybe Meet the Pyro, the inmeasurably short film which us players have been longing over for five years. Maybe one of the countless secrets teased by the TF2 Team in their "recent" blog-post, a faint glimmer of promise in this dry desert.

    We can only hope.
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  34. Post #4674
    BUY THE BROWN BOMBER
    psyke's Avatar
    February 2011
    6,751 Posts
    The last thing about an item Valve emailed me was just about donating the holiday headacase and that same day Bay Raitt commented on the pyro axe I made for christmas about making a little change, but since then not a word, I just don't understand how comes Ronin and Psyke get to know when their items are going to be updated or added ingame, I never got an early notification, except for the holiday headcase since they asked if I would donate it.

    I just meant we'll have to wait, like hopefully tonight's the night, like every thursday night.
    Mostly due to the fact i email them.

    they do respond if you take the time to send them an email.

    you just need to email the right folk
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  35. Post #4675
    Grimhound's Avatar
    April 2011
    3,231 Posts
    You know. For all the luchadore shit Heavy gets, Pyro is the one who has never taken off his mask.
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  36. Post #4676
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    Jetamo's Avatar
    June 2008
    6,941 Posts
    New HLDS email!

    A new version of the HLDS Update Tool has been released. The tool should automatically self-update the next time you run it. (Linux users may need to re-run the tool after it self-updates to complete the installation operation that was intended when launching the tool.)

    Changes:
    * Added significant diagnostic output
    * Fix bug causing the tool to restart the update process all over from the beginning if there was an error with a single depot.
    * Fix spurious "connection reset by peer" error when closing connection to content server, which could cause the update to restart from the beginning.
    * Tool will now reuse a connection to a depot, rather than disconnecting and reconnecting
    * If the determines in the first pass that no files would actually be updated from a particular depot, it will no longer needlessly connect to that depot in the second pass
    * Added -nobootstrapupdate option

    Basically, we fixed a few of the most egregious things the tool was doing that make a slow update much slower. Queuing to connect to a content server still takes up the bulk of the update time during peak times after a major update is released; so don't expect miracles. However, we are hopeful that most users will see modest speedup.

    We also added quite verbose diagnostic output, so at least you can tell what the tool is doing. Be aware that this output may contain what appear to be "errors," especially when the tool is trying to connect to a content server. Failures to connect are normal and the tool has always experienced them and automatically retried. The only thing new is that it is telling you what it is doing.

    Linux users: If you get the error message "Bad uSizeOfSignature", then you probably have a bad version of the tool, which was posted mistakenly for a few hours yesterday. To get unstuck, replace the executable named "steam" with this one:
    http://media.steampowered.com/apps/4...etool_48/steam

    Thanks to those of you who helped beta test this tool.

    Thanks,
    Fletcher
    Well, probably means update tonight. possibly.
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  37. Post #4677
    The Great Thief and defense attorney's assistant's assistant
    Kapellmeister's Avatar
    January 2012
    3,157 Posts
    SIGNIFICANT DIAGNOSTIC OUTPUT CONFIRMED FOR SCOUT
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  38. Post #4678
    Clovernoodle's Avatar
    May 2011
    5,157 Posts
    tonights the night?
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  39. Post #4679
    Raffle Rigger
    Psychopath12's Avatar
    November 2010
    16,492 Posts
    Fixes are always good.
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  40. Post #4680
    Damian0358's Avatar
    January 2012
    3,660 Posts
    Well, I just want to say that the Poleaxed Prosthetic could work for the TOBOR Update. Like, a tobor shot part of his leg off and his best friend, a SMG Sniper was killed by the same tobor. So, he took his buddy's SMG, sawed it in half and put it in place where part of his leg was. Just a thought.
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