1. Post #81
    I asked Obama about Facepunch and all I got was molested by the Secret Service
    loco's Avatar
    December 2009
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    You know I never really thought of Phoenix Wright as a VN till now and I always thought I didn't enjoy the genre looks likes its time for me to pick up a few games.
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  2. Post #82
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  3. Post #83
    I wish I had a tentacle hand. Japan would pay billions for some real-life tentacles.
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    February 2009
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    Well, I'll be checking out Saya no Uta after I finish the last arc on KS, even though I'm not quite sure if I want to.
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  4. Post #84
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    July 2009
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    Ah god damn why is chapter two so long.
    (I'm reading that G-String one)

    Thoughts on the underlying plot so far: (obviously spoils everywhere)
       Judging from one of the earliest possible moments I can remember in the story, that green-haired kid (i suck at names) had a conversation with Azai that touched no the topic of "Dr. Jeckyl and Mr. Hyde" a little. Further into the story (however far I may be), headaches appear to be a common plotpoint throughout. So far i've only come to two conclusions:

    1. Azai is Maou, but obviously only subconciously, and possibly brought about from his deep suppressed emotional issues as touched upon by his therapist. Although, this seems like such an obvious answer, as if the writers are almost daring you to take this method of thinking in order to lead you on.
    2. Azai has a long lost brother, who is Maou. 
      

    I'm not really certain, and i'm more trying to figure out what the writer was thinking when writing the story, rather than about the actual characters at the moment. Although in order to do that I need to actually think about every little detail of the story, so I guess I am paying attention to the characters. lmao i don't know; i'm just reading along.

    I just remembered why I stopped reading books. Once I pick up one that interests me in the slightest I won't stop until i'm finished or pass out.

    edit: finally finished the chapter. haha
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  5. Post #85
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    Isn't Saya No Uta, full of    fetuses for doorknobs   

    Or something like that.
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  6. Post #86
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    Started to play G-Senjou no Maou. Just finished chapter one and it's pretty good so far. It kind of reminds me of Death Note in a way.

    Regardless, onto chapter twooo
    Lots of "whoa, so that's how s/he managed to do it" moments? Like, superb masterplans and such. Absolutely loved those in Death note.
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  7. Post #87
    I am going to read clannad, I am a emotion masochist.
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  8. Post #88
    tonks erryday
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    January 2005
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    Finished reading Umineko Chiru (eps 4-8) earlier today. It was fantastic.
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  9. Post #89

    HOW DOES THIS FACE WORK
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  10. Post #90
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    Finished reading Umineko Chiru (eps 4-8) earlier today. It was fantastic.
    Pfft, the animu is sooo much better.
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  11. Post #91
    tonks erryday
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    Pfft, the animu is sooo much better.
    Chiru doesn't have an animu yet
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  12. Post #92
    That Kanon pic in the OP is at least somewhat creepy.
    And by the way, I'll miss Katawa Shoujo thread, it was pretty fun except for    It was rape    part.
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  13. Post #93
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    I played through Katawa Shoujo a couple of times but don't really have any desire to try the other routes. I think I'll give Phoenix Wright a try.
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  14. Post #94
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    January 2005
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    Chiru doesn't have an animu yet
    Damn you, you ruined the humor of my sarcastic comment!

    I'll get you next time Orkel, NEXT TIME!!

    Edited:

    I played through Katawa Shoujo a couple of times but don't really have any desire to try the other routes. I think I'll give Phoenix Wright a try.
    That one is good for everyone. I don't know a single person who hates the Ace Attorney series.
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  15. Post #95
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    I played through Katawa Shoujo a couple of times but don't really have any desire to try the other routes. I think I'll give Phoenix Wright a try.
    I will probably do the same thing when I am done.
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  16. Post #96
    "some of those dragon dildo designs are pretty cool"
    Dennab
    February 2007
    8,498 Posts
    I don't know much about the VN but I think it means the string on a guitar, not the underwear
    extremely late, but violin

    Edited:

    Ah god damn why is chapter two so long.
    (I'm reading that G-String one)

    Thoughts on the underlying plot so far: (obviously spoils everywhere)
       Judging from one of the earliest possible moments I can remember in the story, that green-haired kid (i suck at names) had a conversation with Azai that touched no the topic of "Dr. Jeckyl and Mr. Hyde" a little. Further into the story (however far I may be), headaches appear to be a common plotpoint throughout. So far i've only come to two conclusions:

    1. Azai is Maou, but obviously only subconciously, and possibly brought about from his deep suppressed emotional issues as touched upon by his therapist. Although, this seems like such an obvious answer, as if the writers are almost daring you to take this method of thinking in order to lead you on.
    2. Azai has a long lost brother, who is Maou. 
      

    I'm not really certain, and i'm more trying to figure out what the writer was thinking when writing the story, rather than about the actual characters at the moment. Although in order to do that I need to actually think about every little detail of the story, so I guess I am paying attention to the characters. lmao i don't know; i'm just reading along.

    I just remembered why I stopped reading books. Once I pick up one that interests me in the slightest I won't stop until i'm finished or pass out.

    edit: finally finished the chapter. haha
    Which character are you going for first? I recommend doing Haru's last. It's the most dramatic and adrenaline-inducing. At least for me it was.
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  17. Post #97
    PHD IN SUCKING DICK
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    June 2008
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    Finished the Hanako arc in KS today, didn't touch me as much as the Emi end.

    Guess than I'm going to read Rin's path next.
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  18. Post #98
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    August 2009
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    G-string's Azai Gonzou seems like a goddamn badass. I did just meet him though.

    Even his name's badass
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  19. Post #99
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    March 2008
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    hisao raped hanako
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  20. Post #100
    drunk
    TippZ's Avatar
    August 2007
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    hisao raped hanako
    dun dun dunnn
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  21. Post #101
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    hisao raped hanako
    shizune raped hisao so it all balances out
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  22. Post #102
    hisao raped hanako
    Not this again please.


    On topic:
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  23. Post #103
    ASK ME ABOUT MY BAKELITE FETISH
    Dennab
    April 2011
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    Well, I'll be checking out Saya no Uta after I finish the last arc on KS, even though I'm not quite sure if I want to.
    Be sure to play this or this during the intro. Fits like a glove.

    Also, it's not that bad. Just nut up and embrace the flesh, you prancing faggot.
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  24. Post #104
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    Aw, so the Katawa Shoujo thread finally bit the dust. It was a good run, I enjoyed every minute of it (almost )

    I'm guessing the KS discussion will continue here? I still haven't done Rin's arc.
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  25. Post #105
    "some of those dragon dildo designs are pretty cool"
    Dennab
    February 2007
    8,498 Posts
    I wonder if you could pin games like Mass Effect and Dragon age under the Visual Novel flag.

    Using a loose definition though. Considering VNs have Graphics, are story-oriented, have character decisions that affect the plot, sometimes with gameplay/rpg features.
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  26. Post #106
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    I wonder if you could pin games like Mass Effect and Dragon age under the Visual Novel flag.

    Using a loose definition though. Considering VNs have Graphics, are story-oriented, have character decisions that affect the plot, sometimes with gameplay/rpg features.
    Extremely loose definition. You usually don't do anything else but read with novels. VN adds the visual side to it; pictures and sounds. Nothing else, even the choices are present in books. ME and DA adds what, everything else that defines a video-game? I find it extremely hard to call either of them a visual novel.
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  27. Post #107
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    I wonder if you could pin games like Mass Effect and Dragon age under the Visual Novel flag.

    Using a loose definition though. Considering VNs have Graphics, are story-oriented, have character decisions that affect the plot, sometimes with gameplay/rpg features.
    The distinguishing difference is the abysmally lower level of player interaction in VN's compared to other games. One could say that what makes visual novels non-games is the lack of gameplay. If you'd rate Mass Effect as a game reviewer you'd go through categories like for example "Visuals", "Story" and "Gameplay", but you couldn't do that with VN's since there is no "gameplay" to speak of other than clicking a button to proceed.
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  28. Post #108
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    March 2008
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    Phoenix Wright = Visual Novel.
    Phoenix Wright = Good Gameplay
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  29. Post #109
    "some of those dragon dildo designs are pretty cool"
    Dennab
    February 2007
    8,498 Posts
    The distinguishing difference is the abysmally lower level of player interaction in VN's compared to other games. One could say that what makes visual novels non-games is the lack of gameplay.

    What about something like Utawarerumono or Muv Luv. In the first you get interactive sections where you control some soldiers in a battle. Just as much planning and strategy needed as in Dragon age.

    And in Muv Luv you get shit like


    Which I'd wager is just as exciting to play as anything Mass Effect can throw at you.
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  30. Post #110
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    March 2009
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    ffffff-
    that ending song
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  31. Post #111
    "some of those dragon dildo designs are pretty cool"
    Dennab
    February 2007
    8,498 Posts
    The distinguishing difference is the abysmally lower level of player interaction in VN's compared to other games. One could say that what makes visual novels non-games is the lack of gameplay. If you'd rate Mass Effect as a game reviewer you'd go through categories like for example "Visuals", "Story" and "Gameplay", but you couldn't do that with VN's since there is no "gameplay" to speak of other than clicking a button to proceed.
    I'd agree with you, but I don't like comparing things like that. I think, after some thinking, I could bring examples from both VNs and Video Games that you'd consider low and high player interaction.
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  32. Post #112
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    I'd still consider Phoenix Wright more of a game. I mean, you got to actually solve how everything happened in the case based on the witness reports and evidence, you've got to prove shit in court and call witnesses on their false testimony based on the evidence etc.

    Yeah, I understand it basically is a linear visual novel story wise, but I feel like there is enough interactivity and thought you have to put in by the player to make it more of a game than a VN. You got to solve the case if you want to finish the story. In a regular VN you just make choices and read a long most of the time.

    Also the first game is on the app store for pretty cheap ($4.99) if you don't have a DS, and the two sequels released after it are coming to the app store as well. It's one of my favorite DS series and I recommend everyone to at least check it out.
    They're advertised as VNs on the official site though
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  33. Post #113
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    Naturally a game doesn't have to fit into just one category. You could have a game that's a mix of both and you could say it's either a Visual Novel with of mini-games to relieve the narrative flow from time to time, or you could call it an FPS/RTS/RPG/whatever-game with lots of pure narrative sections stuck in between the gameplay sections. Whatever you'd like to call such a game would be up to the developers, depending on things like what target audience they aim to deliver the game to.
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  34. Post #114
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    November 2008
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    No reference to Yume Miru Kusuri yet? I loved that VN, although mostly because I identified with one of the characters so much.
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  35. Post #115
    Always trust the niney
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    No reference to Yume Miru Kusuri yet? I loved that VN, although mostly because I identified with one of the characters so much.
    Are you a fairy?
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  36. Post #116
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    No reference to Yume Miru Kusuri yet? I loved that VN, although mostly because I identified with one of the characters so much.
    We had this conversation in the KS thread. General consensus was "No."
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  37. Post #117
    PHD IN SUCKING DICK
    kitteh-nator's Avatar
    June 2008
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    No reference to Yume Miru Kusuri yet? I loved that VN, although mostly because I identified with one of the characters so much.
    Are you a fairy, a slut, or autistic?
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  38. Post #118
    Always trust the niney
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    October 2011
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    Are you a fairy, a slut, or autistic?
    In all seriousness, I think that last thing is true.
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  39. Post #119
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    November 2008
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    Are you a fairy, a slut, or autistic?
    No but I was bullied relentlessly as a child and have suicidal thoughts.
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  40. Post #120
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    No but I was bullied relentlessly as a child and have suicidal thoughts.
    Facepunch sure does have quite a few people like this...
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