1. Post #1
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    July 2009
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    Obviously, the new My Little Pony television show has gained some controversy recently. It has derailed quite a few threads, so I took the liberty to make a thread about it here.

    I have no idea why so many people like this show, it is an alright show, I guess, for children, but that's about it. It is no more interesting and outstanding than any other children's show, for example Dora the Explorer.
    It's just as educative and child-oriented as MLP, but I don't see there being a whole community of adult viewers, dubbing male viewers of the show "Explorbros", or even having whole community-made websites about it!

    My point is: It's just a children's show! Why does everyone love it, even going so far to say that their life wouldn't be complete without the show?
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  2. Post #2
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    April 2011
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    Who knows.
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  3. Post #3
    Dennab
    June 2011
    560 Posts
    Because lonely people need a place to fit in, and that's all there is to it. There's a degree of attention whoring to it, too.

    It's a fad that makes people feel wanted by the other fad-goers.
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  4. Post #4
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    WARNING!
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    Brace for Impact
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  5. Post #5
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    March 2009
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    Because people like the show.
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  6. Post #6
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    Dennab
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    just lock the thread already fucks sake.
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  7. Post #7
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    March 2009
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    Because lonely people need a place to fit in, and that's all there is to it. There's a degree of attention whoring to it, too.

    It's a fad that makes people feel wanted by the other fad-goers.
    Do you really think this makes sense?
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  8. Post #8
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    July 2009
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    just lock the thread already fucks sake.
    Why? This thread is supposed to bring all the mlp discussion here, where it doesn't derail anything.
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  9. Post #9
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    August 2007
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    It's because it is a throw back to cartoon style writing of the 90's, it is well written and is just an enjoyable show to watch.
    Most of the reasons I like the show are summed up here
    http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/vid...trospective-g4
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  10. Post #10
    ccg
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    April 2011
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    You don't need to debate about ponies, it's pointless and will result in an inevitable shitstorm.
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  11. Post #11
    Black's Avatar
    December 2009
    2,998 Posts
    Ive seen quite a bit of furries converting to being bronies. Bu honestly idk. It's a hard answer to an hard question. My stance on this whole brony thing is default,both the hater and the brony can Get Kind of silly sometimes
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  12. Post #12
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    They watch it, for the plot.
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  13. Post #13
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    February 2007
    239 Posts
    Why do people like Call of Duty, Sonic or Battlefield or something like Adventure Time, Regular Show, Invader Zim, Ren & Stimpy, The Last Unicorn, A Game of Thrones, Battlestar Galactica, Chobbits, Whitecastle, CSI, Smurfs, Anything?

    My Little Pony is just as valid as any of those to have a fanbase...

    The question remains as to why some hate the fans of this show. As it does with any other, I like Battlefield 3, but I have no bad blood against those who play Modern Warfare 3.
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  14. Post #14

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    Do you really think this makes sense?
    its true, 99% of bronies are lonely shut ins
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  15. Post #15
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    August 2007
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    its true, 99% of bronies are lonely shut ins
    You know this how? Oh wait you are just making random generalizations.
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  16. Post #16
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    February 2008
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    Why? This thread is supposed to bring all the mlp discussion here, where it doesn't derail anything.
    However civilized and organized you're trying to be, threads on Facepunch will dissolve into chaos if there's ponies involved in any way. Because of that, a lot of users react to ponies with a "fucking ban it" attitude.

    It's FP's latest hate bandwagon, there's been at least one new one every year since I joined.
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  17. Post #17
    Dennab
    June 2011
    560 Posts
    MLP is a kids show. It is not the same as liking Adventure Time, Regular Show, etc, because those are targeted at an older demographic.

    When I say kids show, I mean like, something akin to Winnie the Pooh
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  18. Post #18
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    I think I'll just type out a massive response to OP's question and hope the thread isn't locked by the time I'm done with it
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  19. Post #19

    November 2011
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    Why do people like Call of Duty or Battlefield or something like Adventure Time, Regular Show, Invader Zim, Ren & Stimpy, The Last Unicorn, A Game of Thrones, Battlestar Galactica, Chobbits, Whitecastle, CSI, Smurfs, Anything?

    My Little Pony is just as valid as any of those to have a fanbase...

    The question remains as to why some hate the fans of this show. As it does with any other, I like Battlefield 3, but I have no bad blood against those who play Modern Warfare 3.
    b/c its a show for little girls and its funny as heck when spergs get together

    also http://www.reddit.com/r/clopclop
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  20. Post #20
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    July 2009
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    Why do people like Call of Duty or Battlefield or something like Adventure Time, Regular Show, Invader Zim, Ren & Stimpy, The Last Unicorn, A Game of Thrones, Battlestar Galactica, Chobbits, Whitecastle, CSI, Smurfs, Anything?

    My Little Pony is just as valid as any of those to have a fanbase...

    The question remains as to why some hate the fans of this show. As it does with any other, I like Battlefield 3, but I have no bad blood against those who play Modern Warfare 3.
    I think it's the fact that they are ponies. It's honestly gotten to the point where it's just sad to be playing tf2 and seeing "Rainbow Dash" or "Rarity" join the server, having mlp avatars and sprays. It's gotten so annoying because it's happened so many times. If I saw someone with an Invader Zim avatar, name, and spray, it would be a bit silly but I could deal with it.
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  21. Post #21
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    You know this how? Oh wait you are just making random generalizations.
    While no, the fact he said is not true, but the only bronies you ever hear about are the neckbearded basement dwellers (aka the ones who can't shut up about it either)

    I'm fine if you watch MLP. Personally I think it's a show for little birls and I didn't see any resemblance to older cartoons. If you do, good for you. But don't try to convince me because I don't like it, you're not going to convince me, and stop shoving it down my fucking throat that you do. Keep it to yourself already
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  22. Post #22
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    FP can't have an intellectual debate about MLP no matter what. You will always have idiots who run around spewing shit they know nothing about. There are even a few in this thread already.

    And there are people who speak on behalf of people who like MLP who say equally stupid things. People will like and dislike what they please, to try and explain otherwise is pointless.
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  23. Post #23
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    August 2011
    771 Posts
    People watch it because of how good it is, and just like in any other fandom you get the loudmouth idiots who don't shut up about it. Hating the idiots is one thing, but you shouldn't hate an entire fandom based on a small percentage.

    Think of bronies as muslims, a small percentage are terrorists, but you shouldn't hate all muslims because of those terrorists.
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  24. Post #24
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    February 2007
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    MLP is a kids show. It is not the same as liking Adventure Time, Regular Show, etc, because those are targeted at an older demographic.

    When I say kids show, I mean like, something akin to Winnie the Pooh
    Liking a show like Winnie the Pooh IS the same as liking those. This argument is nothing but your opinion, which is what is all boils down to in the end.
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  25. Post #25
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    November 2011
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    It's been around for little over a year now. It's not exactly "new".

    And ironically I got into an argument with these one person over the internet yesterday, so I have a whole summary of why it's popular. Any insults are not aimed at you, the reader.

    -

    The older series, the ones you're most likely used to and grew up watching and playing with, are terrible. The brony fandom despises it. The characters are flat, the scripts are dumb, the "adventures" are dull, and in general the style of it all is just downright creepy. That's just Generation 1.
    Then came Generation 2. All just as creepy and bad as the previous one. A bit of a style change occured though, and it didn't look QUITE as horrible I suppose.
    Then Generation 3 showed up and it was even worse than the previous 2. However it was animated in some variety of Flash, and that's SORT OF where Lauren Faust got the idea to animate MLP:FiM in Flash (which I'll get to later.
    G3.5 pops up and it's just a nightmare. It was sort of a "test" for G4 (FiM), but every bit so much more nightmareishly horrible than the generations before that.

    To summarize: Generations 1-3.5, between the 80s and earlt 2000's, were shit. EVERYONE in the fandom hates them unless they grew up with them as a child (which is a rare occurance).

    Then came Lauren Faust somewhere in 2007, and decided that she would REVIVE the series, but with a whole new approach. Prior to Lauren doing her edition, the show was 100% aimed at girls at 10 and below and it was basically just this giant marketing campaign for the toy lineup - which is a reason it was so horrible. I mean just look at other cartoons from the 80s-90s. Lovely, humorous things. Like Donald Duck for instance. That shit is still funny TO THIS DAY because it wanted quality, and it wasn't trying to sell you anything.

    Anyways, Lauren decided that with the small budget she was given to animate in something she could hire a lot of professional animators for. So she went with Flash 9. That ALONE gives the show credit.
    Lauren was also a writer and director for other shows such as Fosters Home for Imaginary Friends. Part of the artstyle in MLP:FiM (Or Generation 4, the one us bronies 'obsess' about) was inspired by Powerpuff Girls, which Laurens husband worked on (she also did some work on it as an animator. IIRC, that's how they met in the first place).

    She hires well-known animators and script-writers, people who have worked on shows from our youths. People who KNOW quality. Somewhere in 2009 I think the production actually began, and in 2010 the show was aired for the first time. Already BEFORE it aired it had gathered a following.
    People aren't only looking at Lauren Faust for doing it (even though she's the main point), but also the people she hired.

    The result was something we haven't seen for a long time. It had everything that todays cartoons are missing. Characters that felt alive, great animation, great scriptwriting, cute artstyle and a bunch of other things that are a bit hard to explain over text.
    A majority of the followers are watching the show because it reminds them of the old times, when cartoons were better. Say cirka 1990-2003 when all the good cartoons were around. It has cartoon violence, innuendos, easter eggs, classical jokes and references to older cartoons (several times referencing old-timers like Winnie the Pooh and Donald Duck). It's all wrapped up in this lovely thing that people seem to have forgotten exist today. To rely on friends, friendship and companionship.

    When Lauren developed the series, she had one major thing in mind: To make it NOTHING like the original cartoons. She wanted it to be enjoyable by parents and children alike. And with parents, she means grown-ups. She wanted to go back to the old roots of cartoons, and not just go with the flow and making another 20-minute toy commercial. Something to take note of what that the first Season of the 4th Generation had an "E"-logo at the top left, which stands for "Educational". This logo was removed when the Second season kicked in - and with good reason. Because they knew what fandom they had, and Hasbro was willing to raise the budget and give the people what they wanted.
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  26. Post #26
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    While no, the fact he said is not true, but the only bronies you ever hear about are the neckbearded basement dwellers (aka the ones who can't shut up about it either)

    I'm fine if you watch MLP. Personally I think it's a show for little birls and I didn't see any resemblance to older cartoons. If you do, good for you. But don't try to convince me because I don't like it, you're not going to convince me, and stop shoving it down my fucking throat that you do. Keep it to yourself already
    But the same could be said about any anime, it really isn't the show that gives it a bad name, the people taking it too far is what causes the weird assumptions of the show and people who watch the show.
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  27. Post #27
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    July 2010
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    If people like the show, then by all means, let them watch it. To be fair, the only reason the pony threads were banned on Facepunch was because people who hated the show and it's fanbase kept on going in the thread to troll and they wouldn't stay out, thus forcing the threads to have be moderated a shit ton and then eventually banned.
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  28. Post #28
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    MLP is a kids show. It is not the same as liking Adventure Time, Regular Show, etc, because those are targeted at an older demographic.

    When I say kids show, I mean like, something akin to Winnie the Pooh
    That is the equivalent of saying
    "Liking a Ham sandwich isn't the same as liking baloney sandwich, Ham sandwich are usually for older people"
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  29. Post #29
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    February 2008
    2,540 Posts
    It's been around for little over a year now. It's not exactly "new".

    And ironically I got into an argument with these one person over the internet yesterday, so I have a whole summary of why it's popular. Any insults are not aimed at you, the reader.

    -

    The older series, the ones you're most likely used to and grew up watching and playing with, are terrible. The brony fandom despises it. The characters are flat, the scripts are dumb, the "adventures" are dull, and in general the style of it all is just downright creepy. That's just Generation 1.
    Then came Generation 2. All just as creepy and bad as the previous one. A bit of a style change occured though, and it didn't look QUITE as horrible I suppose.
    Then Generation 3 showed up and it was even worse than the previous 2. However it was animated in some variety of Flash, and that's SORT OF where Lauren Faust got the idea to animate MLP:FiM in Flash (which I'll get to later.
    G3.5 pops up and it's just a nightmare. It was sort of a "test" for G4 (FiM), but every bit so much more nightmareishly horrible than the generations before that.

    To summarize: Generations 1-3.5, between the 80s and earlt 2000's, were shit. EVERYONE in the fandom hates them unless they grew up with them as a child (which is a rare occurance).

    Then came Lauren Faust somewhere in 2007, and decided that she would REVIVE the series, but with a whole new approach. Prior to Lauren doing her edition, the show was 100% aimed at girls at 10 and below and it was basically just this giant marketing campaign for the toy lineup - which is a reason it was so horrible. I mean just look at other cartoons from the 80s-90s. Lovely, humorous things. Like Donald Duck for instance. That shit is still funny TO THIS DAY because it wanted quality, and it wasn't trying to sell you anything.

    Anyways, Lauren decided that with the small budget she was given to animate in something she could hire a lot of professional animators for. So she went with Flash 9. That ALONE gives the show credit.
    Lauren was also a writer and director for other shows such as Fosters Home for Imaginary Friends. Part of the artstyle in MLP:FiM (Or Generation 4, the one us bronies 'obsess' about) was inspired by Powerpuff Girls, which Laurens husband worked on (she also did some work on it as an animator. IIRC, that's how they met in the first place).

    She hires well-known animators and script-writers, people who have worked on shows from our youths. People who KNOW quality. Somewhere in 2009 I think the production actually began, and in 2010 the show was aired for the first time. Already BEFORE it aired it had gathered a following.
    People aren't only looking at Lauren Faust for doing it (even though she's the main point), but also the people she hired.

    The result was something we haven't seen for a long time. It had everything that todays cartoons are missing. Characters that felt alive, great animation, great scriptwriting, cute artstyle and a bunch of other things that are a bit hard to explain over text.
    A majority of the followers are watching the show because it reminds them of the old times, when cartoons were better. Say cirka 1990-2003 when all the good cartoons were around. It has cartoon violence, innuendos, easter eggs, classical jokes and references to older cartoons (several times referencing old-timers like Winnie the Pooh and Donald Duck). It's all wrapped up in this lovely thing that people seem to have forgotten exist today. To rely on friends, friendship and companionship.

    When Lauren developed the series, she had one major thing in mind: To make it NOTHING like the original cartoons. She wanted it to be enjoyable by parents and children alike. And with parents, she means grown-ups. She wanted to go back to the old roots of cartoons, and not just go with the flow and making another 20-minute toy commercial. Something to take note of what that the first Season of the 4th Generation had an "E"-logo at the top left, which stands for "Educational". This logo was removed when the Second season kicked in - and with good reason. Because they knew what fandom they had, and Hasbro was willing to raise the budget and give the people what they wanted.
    Thank you for that, saved me a lot of typing.
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  30. Post #30
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    July 2010
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    My Little Pony is a show made for little girls, how on earth male teenagers and even some men like the show is beyond me. The creators had no original intention of creating the show for anyone other than little girls, if it was produced to target other market segments then the product would reflect that. What has happened is a niche has emerged full of these male teenagers and men who are in an identity crisis. Seriously, it's a fucking show made for little girls, how the fuck do these people like this show? It shouldn't appeal to their interests, it's fucking ponies doing whatever the fuck they do.

    I'll tolerate people who watch the show but not go any further, but if you're someone who buys the fucking toys, then you have a problem. If you're a little girl, then that's absolutely fine. What you probably are is some socially awkward nerd who's going to live in their parents' basement until they are at least 40. I don't want to make such an assumption, but from the people I know who are absolutely in love with the show, it isn't too inane of an assumption to make (even if it is a bit exaggerated, but you get what I mean).
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    December 2011
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    It's been around for little over a year now. It's not exactly "new".

    And ironically I got into an argument with these one person over the internet yesterday, so I have a whole summary of why it's popular. Any insults are not aimed at you, the reader.

    -

    The older series, the ones you're most likely used to and grew up watching and playing with, are terrible. The brony fandom despises it. The characters are flat, the scripts are dumb, the "adventures" are dull, and in general the style of it all is just downright creepy. That's just Generation 1.
    Then came Generation 2. All just as creepy and bad as the previous one. A bit of a style change occured though, and it didn't look QUITE as horrible I suppose.
    Then Generation 3 showed up and it was even worse than the previous 2. However it was animated in some variety of Flash, and that's SORT OF where Lauren Faust got the idea to animate MLP:FiM in Flash (which I'll get to later.
    G3.5 pops up and it's just a nightmare. It was sort of a "test" for G4 (FiM), but every bit so much more nightmareishly horrible than the generations before that.

    To summarize: Generations 1-3.5, between the 80s and earlt 2000's, were shit. EVERYONE in the fandom hates them unless they grew up with them as a child (which is a rare occurance).

    Then came Lauren Faust somewhere in 2007, and decided that she would REVIVE the series, but with a whole new approach. Prior to Lauren doing her edition, the show was 100% aimed at girls at 10 and below and it was basically just this giant marketing campaign for the toy lineup - which is a reason it was so horrible. I mean just look at other cartoons from the 80s-90s. Lovely, humorous things. Like Donald Duck for instance. That shit is still funny TO THIS DAY because it wanted quality, and it wasn't trying to sell you anything.

    Anyways, Lauren decided that with the small budget she was given to animate in something she could hire a lot of professional animators for. So she went with Flash 9. That ALONE gives the show credit.
    Lauren was also a writer and director for other shows such as Fosters Home for Imaginary Friends. Part of the artstyle in MLP:FiM (Or Generation 4, the one us bronies 'obsess' about) was inspired by Powerpuff Girls, which Laurens husband worked on (she also did some work on it as an animator. IIRC, that's how they met in the first place).

    She hires well-known animators and script-writers, people who have worked on shows from our youths. People who KNOW quality. Somewhere in 2009 I think the production actually began, and in 2010 the show was aired for the first time. Already BEFORE it aired it had gathered a following.
    People aren't only looking at Lauren Faust for doing it (even though she's the main point), but also the people she hired.

    The result was something we haven't seen for a long time. It had everything that todays cartoons are missing. Characters that felt alive, great animation, great scriptwriting, cute artstyle and a bunch of other things that are a bit hard to explain over text.
    A majority of the followers are watching the show because it reminds them of the old times, when cartoons were better. Say cirka 1990-2003 when all the good cartoons were around. It has cartoon violence, innuendos, easter eggs, classical jokes and references to older cartoons (several times referencing old-timers like Winnie the Pooh and Donald Duck). It's all wrapped up in this lovely thing that people seem to have forgotten exist today. To rely on friends, friendship and companionship.

    When Lauren developed the series, she had one major thing in mind: To make it NOTHING like the original cartoons. She wanted it to be enjoyable by parents and children alike. And with parents, she means grown-ups. She wanted to go back to the old roots of cartoons, and not just go with the flow and making another 20-minute toy commercial. Something to take note of what that the first Season of the 4th Generation had an "E"-logo at the top left, which stands for "Educational". This logo was removed when the Second season kicked in - and with good reason. Because they knew what fandom they had, and Hasbro was willing to raise the budget and give the people what they wanted.
    But at the end of the day, it is still a TV show aimed at little girls and these grown men are disgusting for wanking over it.
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  32. Post #32
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    March 2007
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    The show is bad. I mean really bad. I have seen some shit cartoons in my time, but this one takes the vomit-covered shit-cake. I'm not just saying that because of the fanbase or because it's about ponies, it a fundamentally bad show.
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  33. Post #33
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    May 2010
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    Well, reaction images and unlike dora the explora, they dont ask the most retarded questions.
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  34. Post #34
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    July 2006
    2,630 Posts
    It seems like a meme or w/e from what i've gathered with people putting ponies as their avatars on steam, forums and games etc etc. If they liked the show, then they'd probably keep it to themselves instead of trying to show everyone they're a pathetic nerd. I'm a fan of star wars and i'm sure a lot of other people are but it doesn't mean everything i do has to be star wars related
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  35. Post #35
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    August 2006
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    But at the end of the day, it is still a TV show aimed at little girls and these grown men are disgusting for wanking over it.
    Because everyone who watches it jerks to it.

    And because a TV show with The Big Lebowski references is clearly on the level of Dora the Explorer.

    You are brilliant and very informed on this discussion.
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  36. Post #36
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    July 2006
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    I always assumed people started using it as a trolling tactic and then other people jumped on the bandwagon thinking they were serious about liking it.
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  37. Post #37
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    August 2006
    435 Posts
    Why do people like Call of Duty, Sonic or Battlefield or something like Adventure Time, Regular Show, Invader Zim, Ren & Stimpy, The Last Unicorn, A Game of Thrones, Battlestar Galactica, Chobbits, Whitecastle, CSI, Smurfs, Anything?

    My Little Pony is just as valid as any of those to have a fanbase...

    The question remains as to why some hate the fans of this show. As it does with any other, I like Battlefield 3, but I have no bad blood against those who play Modern Warfare 3.
    I think you kind of missed the point of this. The problem is, none of the above have a fanbase that vividly make fan-art, pornography and other general creepy shit to shove down other peoples throats as if it were a cult trying to gain new members. Well, maybe except for Invader Zim, and Regular Show. It's a valid fanbase, sure, but you don't see any of the out of control bullshit with the above you've mentioned. Just more so with this show, which warrants more attention to it that it really doesn't deserve compared to the others you mentioned above.
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  39. Post #39
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    March 2010
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    I don't see why so many people have an issue with it. Just because a very vocal minority like to shove it down people throats for a reaction doesn't mean we're all like that. Honestly the show has done a lot of good, its given people a place to fit in, made them unashamed of the way that they are and hell even raised thousands for charity with things like the Humble Brony Bundle and http://broniesforgood.org/

    Honestly just because they're a tad odd is no reason to hate on them because honestly, we're all a tad odd for one reason or another, and we all like strange things, just because they aren't ashamed to admit to liking a show for little girls doesn't mean you need to hate on them.
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  40. Post #40
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    November 2011
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    But at the end of the day, it is still a TV show aimed at little girls and these grown men are disgusting for wanking over it.
    You didn't even read it, did you?
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