1. Post #921
    Anastatius's Avatar
    August 2010
    710 Posts
    Metal is still going strong tbh, so long as you ignore deathcore and djent
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  2. Post #922
    r. panda is a racist and ibuwebu is mai waifu
    Dennab
    May 2006
    12,080 Posts
    Music in this generation, for the most part, has no logic or actual musicality put into it at all. Let's look at something like this:


    Name one contemporary piece that can compare to logic of this.

    Everything Bach, and other composers of their generations wrote took time, patience, and logic. Nowadays, musicians can rely on electronics to hide their 'talent' and to create nice beats for them in a few weeks. Everything musicians did in the past was constructed with every brick in the right spot. Granted Bach did have to hand-write all his pieces, but the actual performance base of the music relied on everyone's cooperation to know their part perfectly.
    lol?

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    quality thread
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  3. Post #923
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    October 2005
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    Music and logic nowadays are going down the drain. Most people ignore rules and just plop notes on a page and experiment with how things sound and just go for it. Classical masterminds crafted their music with great, incomparable precision.
    This perfectionism (I don't think this so called "perfectionism" was as important as you're making it out to be) is exactly what makes classical music so insipid to me. To me, the most interesting and enjoyable music is when not everything is perfect, but instead you can hear that the musicians are experiment, trying to out something new and aren't afraid of not doing everything perfectly. The excitement comes from the openness and liveliness, making it very easy for me to connect to it. Obviously, basic musical qualities like rhythm, melody, funk etc. is important, but it's the combination of that and experimentation which I value so highly.

    Most people probably would not agree with what I just tried to describe, and that is my point: coming up with such a dogmatic explanation as to why certain music is better is just idiotic and useless when someone can have a completely different opinion on what makes good music.

    I'm not saying you shouldn't argue why some music is "better" than other music, because that would be boring, but you have to keep in mind that not everyone has the same underlying view on music because of varying opinions and experience with music.
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  4. Post #924
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    November 2008
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    Most people ignore rules and just plop notes on a page and experiment with how things sound and just go for it. Classical masterminds crafted their music with great, incomparable precision.
    this just sums up exactly why i don't listen to classical music and why i love modern music. i don't want to hear some guy doing a maths assignment, i want to hear someone expressing themselves through any means necessary.

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    shit and my avatar is a math rock band lol, slightly hypocritical

    okay there is a blurred line i guess. i still argue that you can define characteristics between musical genres and eras, but in the end it's all arranged sound one way or another.

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    nothing against classical or perfectionist music, but i don't discredit someone for aiming for a sound rather than immaculate construction
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  5. Post #925
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    October 2005
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    this just sums up exactly why i don't listen to classical music and why i love modern music. i don't want to hear some guy doing a maths assignment, i want to hear someone expressing themselves through any means necessary.

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    shit and my avatar is a math rock band lol, slightly hypocritical

    okay there is a blurred line i guess. i still argue that you can define characteristics between musical genres and eras, but in the end it's all arranged sound one way or another.
    Yeah I have that problem too. Whenever I use an argument like that to explain why I like certain music, I look through what I listen to and find out 50% of it goes against the point I just made, making it seem useless.

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    nothing against classical or perfectionist music, but i don't discredit someone for aiming for a sound rather than immaculate construction
    I'm not an expert, but I don't think classical necessarily means it's perfectionism. What I've heard from some musician friends of mine is that there can be a lot of improvisation involved either in the creation or the performance of classical music, while other classical music has absolutely no improvisation. I think what you can deduct from this is that classical music can be just as varied as modern music, it's just harder to notice since you haven't listened so much to it. As an example, I know a guy who has played classical piano for years, and he hates any form of improvising.
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  6. Post #926
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    That post was 2 weeks ago.
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  7. Post #927
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    November 2008
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    doesn't stop it from being relevant to the thread.

  8. Post #928
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    November 2009
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    That's because it was posted in the thread.
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  9. Post #929
    Dennab
    December 2011
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    Suddenly opinions.

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    Really this thread should die, it's frankly a god awful thread that's gonna repeat itself over and over with people claiming their opinions are better than each others and that will get mildly interrupted when someone comes in and goes "NO THIS GENERATIONS MUSIC IS TERRIBLE LISTEN TO THE RADIO YOU WILL SEE IT'S ALL GOD AWFUL AND TERRIBAD!"
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  10. Post #930
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    January 2011
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    It's not that bad a thread. It at least questions people's thoughts about what good people think about music.

    We've established people are way too picky in what they look for, that most people don't care and that people are afraid to talk about music at all. Most probably because they've seen other people do dumb shit (the hip hop arguement).

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    also the "superior" music thing that has happened in this thread is awful.

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  12. Post #932
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    October 2005
    3,869 Posts
    This isn't a "post your favorite song" thread.
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  13. Post #933
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    February 2010
    1,255 Posts
    There is no superior music.
    There is no bad music.
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  14. Post #934
    The Union Jack would look a shit ton better with a Hammer and Sickle in the middle of it
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    November 2007
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    There is no superior music.
    There is no bad music.
    except for drill and bass

    that is truly superior music


  15. Post #935

    July 2011
    21 Posts
    People just aren't looking hard enough. For example, there are artists that totally kick ass, yet they are not signed to any labels. Like this:


    And for those of you who say that this is shit, I hope a rusty nail goes up your asses.
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  16. Post #936
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    Dennab
    January 2006
    40,352 Posts
    i'd rather have the rusty nail than 5 minutes of whatever it is you posted there
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  17. Post #937
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    January 2011
    140 Posts
    Well at least some good music persists. Everyone seems to like Foster the People.


  18. Post #938
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    November 2008
    2,927 Posts
    people, this is not a "post music you like as an argumentative statement" thread.
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  19. Post #939
    Dennab
    December 2011
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    People just aren't looking hard enough. For example, there are artists that totally kick ass, yet they are not signed to any labels. Like this:


    And for those of you who say that this is shit, I hope a rusty nail goes up your asses.
    As far as instrumental melodic stuff goes that wasn't bad, just boring as fuck, it meandered around then went into a solo that was bound to happen cause that's the only way the meandering could have been broken.

    But still, you lost me when you essentially said "anyone with a differing opinion to mine can get anal tetanus."
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  20. Post #940
    BrQ
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    June 2008
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    except for drill and bass

    that is truly superior music

    personally I really like it when slow and easy music is played with some quick rhythm like in the beginning with soft drummish sounds. I don't think any music can do those soft drum sounds wrong, it almost always sounds good in my opinion

    Stuff like
    and skip to 1:30, that's something I really like but I can't really find such music anywhere

    Another one I really love, and has this calm-ish and drums attached to it.
    Many Netsky songs have this, which is why I really love most of his songs. Gives me a clear mind, a very calm feeling and often brings back memories which is unlike anything else I ever listened