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    Alright, so i picked up Airsoft International's gun review issue, and for the most part it seems to be accurate, their reviews and breakdown's are very respected in the airsoft community and are usually spot on, so i figure this will be helpful to some perople around here. If enough people request it i'll post the FPS and RPM for each weapon but i really don't feel like doing it, i have five guys that's getting cold as is. I'm not going to go into big detail but i will post the scores:

    AK pattern rifles, between TM AK 47, RS T 56, LCT AK and CA CM7
    RS wins everything with a 5/5 in externals, internals, and performance go home and buy one
    CA sucks shit but not as bad as LCT, just don't buy it period.
    TM is gud, 3/5 externals, 3/5 internals, and 3/5 in performance.
    LCT sucks ALL the shit, decent in externals(4/5) but got a 2/5 on internals and performance

    G36s: SRC G36E, CA36, and Umarex G36

    SRC sucks as much shit as we say it does, worst out of all of them in every catagory, DO NOT BUY
    CA is pretty good, externals are 3/5, internals were 3/5, performance was 3/5. A solid buy judging from the information.
    Umarex did surprisingly well, externals were 4/5, internals were the best of the 3 at 4/5, and performance was best also at 4/5. Very good buy.

    M4s: there were like 7 companies so i'm going to go through this fast: G&G(proline), G&P, Systema, Ares, ICS, CA, King arms, TM

    In externals they were all p. good, everyone but Systema, TM, and KA(who got 4/5) got a 3/5
    Internals: CA had the worst internals with a 2/5, Systema had the best with a 5/5, and everyone else got a 3/5
    Performance: Systema had the best again with a 5/5, G&G with a 4/5 and everyone else got a 3/5
    All in all they all did well but avoid CA if you can, as out of them they did the worst

    Masada(I TOLD you guys they were tacticool!) between A&K and Fagpul PTS
    Fagpul wins go home
    JK, A&K was solid but should have been much better, 3/5 externals, 2/5 internals, 3/5 performance
    Fagpul: externals 4/5, internals 3/5, performance 4/5. As much as it hurts to say it's a solid buy, but so is the A&K and it's much cheaper than the Fagpul

    M14: G&G, CA, TM
    Externals: G&G and CA got 3/5 and Tm got a 4/5
    Internals: everyone got a 3/5
    performance: G&G and CA got 4/5, TM got 5/5
    All in all they are all solid buys.

    M249(why ONLY the M249?) CA, G&P, A&K
    Externals: CA and A&K got 3/5, G&P 4/6
    Internals: G&P and A&K got 3/5, CA got 4/5
    Performance: G&P and A&K got 3/5, CA got 4/5
    All good buys IMO, CA being the best.

    MP5: CA, TM, ICS, G&G
    Externals: CA and TM 3/5, ICS and G&G 4/5
    Internals: CA 3/5, G&G and TM 4/5, ICS 5/5
    Performance: CA 2/5, TM and G&G 4/5, ICS 3/5

    Galil(YAY!): King Arms, ICS
    Externals: KA 4/5, ICS 3/5
    Internals: both got 3/5
    Performance: both got 4/5

    L85(YES.):G&G, ICS, Ares
    Externals:G&G and Ares 3/5, ICS 4/5
    Internals:G&G and Ares 3/5, ICS 4/5
    Performance:G&G and Ares 3/5, ICS 4/5
    ICS is best by far

    AK74(i was a bit confused, the title was Ak74 but the picture was an AKS74u, i'm not 100% what variant they are talking about): ICS, TM, CA
    Externals: ICS and CA 3/5, TM 4/5
    Internals: ICS and CA 3/5, TM 4/5
    Performance: ICS 2/5, TM and CA 4/5

    SCAR: CA, G&G, VFC, Ares
    Externals: CA, G&G, and Ares 3/5, VFC 4/5
    Internals: CA, G&G, and Ares 3/5, VFC 4/5
    Performance: CA and G&G 3/5, Ares 2/5, VFC 4/5

    Alright, that's everything. All in all i'm miffed they did NO reviews on any budget brands we IFAPers tend to use. It was all more well know brands like CA, Ares, TM, etc. But we were right about SRC being shit, at least in AI's eyes. Always remember that most of the time when you see a review on the internet opinion is weighed heavily, and at least with this magazine i don't feel that is the case, except for TM. AI has ALWAYS liked TM guns so take the TM reviews with a couple grains of salt. Don't get me wrong, TM is good, but when they say 4/5 think more 3/5 or 3.5/5. I hope this transcription helped you all on gun buying decisions, and maybe cuts down on a few threads asking "what gun am the best?".
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  2. Post #2
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    October 2006
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    I got a AI mag for christmas and on one page it said AK-47, then had a picture of a AKM

  3. Post #3
    I got a AI mag for christmas and on one page it said AK-47, then had a picture of a AKM
    lol yeah, in this issue too on the AK 47 review there was a picture of an AKM(fairly certain it was the RS T56) I sent them an email a long time ago concerning my thoughts on how they cater to the tactitards more than they do us, the more obscure airsofters, like the rossiairsofters, etc, and how they have never mentioned the AK 74 at all, nor have made a russian loadout NOT from WWII and it's getting harder and harder to find thier mags what with Borders closing, yet it doesn't even seem worth it anymore. They responded with something to the effect of "We never really thought of it this way, we'll try better at this, i'm even sending this to the chief editor" and next month i shit you not, they had a big article about the difference between an AK 74 and an AK 47, and did a review on an AK 74. I felt accomplished. They do a lot of WWII and Vietnam stuff but when it's not that it's ALL multisham and gaytacs, and at one point they had a MW2 loadout series. I had one issue, the one were they do the SEALs from the multiplayer. Me and my best friend nailed it to a tree and shot it until the bbs pierced through to the other side. But now, my faith in them has been SLIGHTLY restored.
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  4. Post #4
    TheDon's Avatar
    January 2012
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    The A&K masada that i currently have is actually very good with the externals but as far as the internals go, i was very disappointed. The gearbox is very scratchy and loud (sounds like it is going to die right out of the box), and the hop up likes to make your BB's fall very short of the target unless it is adjusted all the way up. I like the externals, but i absolutely hate the internals.

  5. Post #5
    The A&K masada that i currently have is actually very good with the externals but as far as the internals go, i was very disappointed. The gearbox is very scratchy and loud (sounds like it is going to die right out of the box), and the hop up likes to make your BB's fall very short of the target unless it is adjusted all the way up. I like the externals, but i absolutely hate the internals.
    And correct me if i'm wrong but doesn't the A&K Masada have a proprietary gearbox?

  6. Post #6
    TheDon's Avatar
    January 2012
    592 Posts
    And correct me if i'm wrong but doesn't the A&K Masada have a proprietary gearbox?
    I believe the gearbox is a V2 but with different selector switch gears. And the air nozzle is an SR-25 nozzle.

  7. Post #7
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    Stupideye's Avatar
    October 2006
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    lol yeah, in this issue too on the AK 47 review there was a picture of an AKM(fairly certain it was the RS T56)
    yeah we probably have the same one then lol, made me cringe a bit

  8. Post #8
    I believe the gearbox is a V2 but with different selector switch gears. And the air nozzle is an SR-25 nozzle.
    Ah, so only a few parts are proprietary, much like on my SCAR.

    Edited:

    yeah we probably have the same one then lol, made me cringe a bit
    Yeah, that was the first thing i noticed when i turned to the page. And i live your avatar Stupideye, so awesome.

  9. Post #9
    Year_of_Lurking's Avatar
    June 2009
    465 Posts
    Tm great for ak's, LCT terrible? what? I always heard lct had great externals and okay internals.
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    Tm great for ak's, LCT terrible? what? I always heard lct had great externals and okay internals.
    The issue said their externals were good and their internals were on the bad side, nearing terrible. I'm just relaying info, only the after notes are my opinions judging the information.

  11. Post #11
    Year_of_Lurking's Avatar
    June 2009
    465 Posts
    Eh. The fact they said tm's had good externals shows a huge bias though. Mine creaks a lot.
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  12. Post #12
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    cardfan212's Avatar
    April 2009
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    They should have also compared pricing.
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  13. Post #13
    GOSH FUDGING DARNIT
    Fish Muffin's Avatar
    January 2008
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    Eh. The fact they said tm's had good externals shows a huge bias though. Mine creaks a lot.
    my tm mp5k creaks if you look at it sternly.


    also, some of these scores seem very... off. KA doing better than G&P on externals? Doesnt seem likely.
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    Year_of_Lurking's Avatar
    June 2009
    465 Posts
    The more I look at it the more it seems to disagree with anything I've ever heard.
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    Eh. The fact they said tm's had good externals shows a huge bias though. Mine creaks a lot.
    Oh damn straight, my TM MP5 body ccccccccccccccccccccccccccccrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaakkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk kkkkkkkkkkkkksssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss That's why i said, take what they say about TM with a couple grains of salt.

    Edited:

    They should have also compared pricing.
    They do, i just didn't feel like typing that too.

    Edited:

    my tm mp5k creaks if you look at it sternly.


    also, some of these scores seem very... off. KA doing better than G&P on externals? Doesnt seem likely.
    I have to agree and also disagree with you there, KA M4's are pretty damn nice on the outside but yeah G&P is just as nice on the outside. IMO G&P should have gotten a 4/5 for externals on the M4 section.

  16. Post #16
    Taepodong-2's Avatar
    December 2009
    13,740 Posts
    Wait so according to them the ICS AK-74 sucks? Now what the fuck am I supposed to buy if I want a 74M and the ICS is the only one we can get in Canada?

  17. Post #17
    POOP DICKS
    Dark Descent's Avatar
    August 2008
    4,912 Posts
    Doesn't stupideye have one? Or is it niko?

  18. Post #18
    Year_of_Lurking's Avatar
    June 2009
    465 Posts
    Wait so according to them the ICS AK-74 sucks? Now what the fuck am I supposed to buy if I want a 74M and the ICS is the only one we can get in Canada?
    Even If the internals are crap (which I highly doubt) you can replace them fairly easily. The externals seem good, so I'd still stick with it.

  19. Post #19
    About as smart and adept as a pile of turds
    oakman26's Avatar
    January 2010
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    Oh yeah, my g&g receiver is vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrryyyyy yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy sssssssssssssssssssssssssssssstttttttttttttttttttt ttttttttttttuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurrr rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrdddddddddddddddddd ddddddyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
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    Taepodong-2's Avatar
    December 2009
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    Even If the internals are crap (which I highly doubt) you can replace them fairly easily. The externals seem good, so I'd still stick with it.
    The internals in Canadian guns have to be factory upgraded from the standard model to comply with laws I think anyway. Not sure how true that is though.

  21. Post #21
    Year_of_Lurking's Avatar
    June 2009
    465 Posts
    That's what I've heard about them, but I'm not from Canada. You probably want to downgrade the spring anyway right?

  22. Post #22
    Wait so according to them the ICS AK-74 sucks? Now what the fuck am I supposed to buy if I want a 74M and the ICS is the only one we can get in Canada?
    Judging from what they said it doesn't SUCK, it just needs a bit of overhaul on things like the barrel and such.

  23. Post #23
    Taepodong-2's Avatar
    December 2009
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    That's what I've heard about them, but I'm not from Canada. You probably want to downgrade the spring anyway right?
    On all the websites it says that every guns shoots at 430+ FPS so I'm guessing there's some truth to the guns needing to be upgraded. I'd probably just leave the spring compressed for a couple days because I'm scared of actually opening up the gearbox and the only guy who knows his way around a gearbox hasn't worked on one for a couple years so he probably wouldn't totally know what he's doing anymore.

  24. Post #24
    Year_of_Lurking's Avatar
    June 2009
    465 Posts
    If worse comes to worse you could teach yourself how to do it with internet guides. That's how I learned my way around a v3 gearbox. Replacing a spring isn't actually that hard, if you're prepared before you crack open the gearbox.

  25. Post #25
    TheDon's Avatar
    January 2012
    592 Posts
    When i cracked open my gearbox for the first time, everything went smoothly until i had to close it. I was struggling with it for over a hour until i noticed that one of my gears were upside down.
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    Taepodong-2's Avatar
    December 2009
    13,740 Posts
    I opened up my M16's gearbox one time to try to familiarize myself with it and it took myself a good hour to put it back together, and most of that time was putting the spring back in. And that was when it started to turn into a piece of shit.
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  27. Post #27
    Year_of_Lurking's Avatar
    June 2009
    465 Posts
    My problem was the screw clone companies don't like to include in the trigger mech, and of course that cunt anti reversal latch.

  28. Post #28
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    Stupideye's Avatar
    October 2006
    12,420 Posts
    The ICS 74M has some pretty nice externals, hop up and barrel aren't perfect but it's worth the money I'd say.

  29. Post #29
    Taepodong-2's Avatar
    December 2009
    13,740 Posts
    The ICS 74M has some pretty nice externals, hop up and barrel aren't perfect but it's worth the money I'd say.
    Does the hop up at least stay where you set it?

  30. Post #30
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    Stupideye's Avatar
    October 2006
    12,420 Posts
    yeah

    Edited:

    afaik that problem is mostly with M4's
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  31. Post #31

    December 2009
    820 Posts
    >Avoid CA M4s
    >I have a CA M4
    >For 4 years

    :colbert:
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  32. Post #32
    >Avoid CA M4s
    >I have a CA M4
    >For 4 years

    :colbert:
    Back when CA was actually good. Now their products are shit.

  33. Post #33
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    cardfan212's Avatar
    April 2009
    7,935 Posts
    Back when CA was actually good. Now their products are shit.
    And overpriced.
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  34. Post #34
    your all nerdes
    the_killer24's Avatar
    November 2007
    14,140 Posts
    back in the day ca was awesome, full metal, trades and p good internals for less than half the price than buying a tm, upgrades, and metal receiver

    now most of those features are standard on like every gun and no one cares any more

  35. Post #35
    back in the day ca was awesome, full metal, trades and p good internals for less than half the price than buying a tm, upgrades, and metal receiver

    now most of those features are standard on like every gun and no one cares any more
    especially when you can get so many better guns than CA for about the same price.

  36. Post #36
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    xXEnder007Xx's Avatar
    July 2006
    3,757 Posts
    I miss the old CA's. Only CA I would even consider buying these days are their M4's with ABS (Auto Blowback System). Loved my URX w/ ABS, really regret trading it for the KWA. I mean yeah the KWA is pretty damn good, but there was just something about that loud clack the CA gave off with every shot and the working bolt catch.

  37. Post #37
    YEAH, AND?
    felix the cat's Avatar
    December 2010
    9,533 Posts
    I would have bought a CA about 6 or 7 years ago, but now I think they're about as good as a JG but twice as expensive.
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  38. Post #38
    Dennab
    September 2010
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    I would have bought a CA about 6 or 7 years ago, but now I think they're about as good as a JG but twice as expensive.
    I like my CA M16A1, it's a nice gun.
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