1. Post #161
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    April 2011
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    please excuse my ambition
    The point I was going make was it doesn't matter how many users you "plan" on having, you can't predict how fast or slow your service will grow.
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  2. Post #162
    Sprite's Avatar
    October 2011
    294 Posts
    ok, what technologies?
    PHP
    MySQL (I will have to convert eventually, but this is all I know) (I'm not sure when to convert)
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  3. Post #163
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    Jelly's Avatar
    April 2011
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    The new set up will be more friendly (I'm not talking about k8r >_>)
    oh hi keysle/haley
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  4. Post #164
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    October 2011
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    The point I was going make was it doesn't matter how many users you "plan" on having, you can't predict how fast or slow your service will grow.
    ok.jpg
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  5. Post #165
    RUBY OVERLORD
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    November 2011
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    PHP
    MySQL (I will have to convert eventually, but this is all I know) (I'm not sure when to convert)
    lol
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  6. Post #166
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    October 2011
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    oh hi keysle/haley
    I need to stop reading your post in neil's voice :/
    It's awfully intimidating
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  7. Post #167
    secretly a furry
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    April 2011
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    I need to stop reading your post in neil's voice :/
    It's awfully intimidating
    Oh yes, you black spunk, who's your daddy? WHO'S YOUR DADDY?
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  8. Post #168
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    October 2011
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    suggest anything different?
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  9. Post #169
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    Jelly's Avatar
    April 2011
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    suggest anything different?
    blah blah ruby blah blah rails blah blah
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  10. Post #170
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    October 2011
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    blah blah ruby blah blah rails blah blah
    Surely you're shitting me


    Also.
    I want to write a terms of service people will read (even if it has to be a summarized version)

    Do you think people will read 1 sentence? 2? 3?
    When will they lose interest?

    Edited:

    I ask if you're shitting me because it's just another scripting language.

    Is there any hand it has over PHP?
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  11. Post #171
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    April 2011
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    You can't be brief with a tos because it's a contract between you and the user and it has to explain EVERY little detail. All their details are yours? You have to define what constitutes as details and other tid bits otherwise it doesn't have a legal holding.
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  12. Post #172
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    October 2011
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    Well surely. but there is nothing wrong with some quick liners to give general ideas.

    or is there?

    Edited:

    in other news:
    country must be country wide
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  13. Post #173
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    April 2011
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    I'm trying to retrieve meta tags from a url using PHP, apparently
    Code:
    <title>...</title>
    isn't part of PHP's
    Code:
    get_meta_tags()
    . I know I can use file_get_contents() however I do not want to load an en entire external page just to get a title.
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  14. Post #174
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    January 2006
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    I'm trying to retrieve meta tags from a url using PHP, apparently
    Code:
    <title>...</title>
    isn't part of PHP's
    Code:
    get_meta_tags()
    . I know I can use file_get_contents() however I do not want to load an en entire external page just to get a title.
    Get_meta_tags() most likely also loads the whole page and parses it until it hits </head>, so I don't think there'd be much of a difference if you retrieved the whole page and then searched the <title> from it with e.g. regex.

    Edited:

    As a question of my own: Which language would you recommend to use instead of PHP if I love PHP's syntax?
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  15. Post #175
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    April 2011
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    Which language would you recommend to use instead of PHP if I love PHP's syntax?
    Scripting language? Web language? Programming language?
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  16. Post #176
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    July 2010
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    Well surely. but there is nothing wrong with some quick liners to give general ideas.

    or is there?

    Edited:

    in other news:
    country must be country wide
    if you're trying to make this quick and easy, dont make it.
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  17. Post #177
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    January 2006
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    Scripting language? Web language? Programming language?
    Web language, for applications I would now use PHP for.
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  18. Post #178
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    April 2011
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    Web language, for applications I would now use PHP for.
    Why not just keep on using php then.
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  19. Post #179
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    January 2006
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    Why not just keep on using php then.
    I would love to, but apparently the language itself is quite inferior to many others (or so I've heard - please correct me if I'm wrong).
    I personally don't find anything else wrong with it than the non-consistent function parameters.
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  20. Post #180
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    January 2010
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    Jesus just use whatever you're comfortable with. Fuck everybody else, if you'll need or want another language, you'll learn it.
    But really, as long as you're fine and not limited by a language, I do not find a reason to change.
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  21. Post #181
    If you spend any real time with something like Ruby, and actually take the time to get to learn the language to the point where you understand the benefits you won't really want to go bac to PHP. I don't see why so many people seem so resistant to expand their knowledge.
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  22. Post #182
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    If you spend any real time with something like Ruby, and actually take the time to get to learn the language to the point where you understand the benefits you won't really want to go bac to PHP. I don't see why so many people seem so resistant to expand their knowledge.
    For me it's mostly the syntax. I have the same "issue" with Lua. I just dislike having written boundaries (then, end, do, etc.) for loops instead of symbols (such as { and }).

    Edited:

    Sounds like a stupid reason, to be honest, but that's pretty much it.
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  23. Post #183
    You can use curly braces in ruby if you want to
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  24. Post #184
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    January 2006
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    You can use curly braces in ruby if you want to
    I'm sold.
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  25. Post #185
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    June 2010
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    I've learnt some ruby; I can't really see huge advantages over php (nor the other way, for that matter), so I chose to stick with php as my main development language (though I haven't stopped ruby entirely, but if anything it's out of interest rather than any planned usage).
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  26. Post #186
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    August 2010
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    If I make a small website that works like a blog but it will be used for a short time, What should I do? Learn PHP and make a small blogger engine in it, or can I just go with plain HTML?
    Basically, a blogger engine would allow me to post new things on the website without the need to open the editor. However Is this effort a long-term thing, or just write new <div>s for new posts? If there are good, plain blogger engine in PHP, or a tutorial, which do you recommed?
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  27. Post #187
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    July 2010
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    If I make a small website that works like a blog but it will be used for a short time, What should I do? Learn PHP and make a small blogger engine in it, or can I just go with plain HTML?
    Basically, a blogger engine would allow me to post new things on the website without the need to open the editor. However Is this effort a long-term thing, or just write new <div>s for new posts? If there are good, plain blogger engine in PHP, or a tutorial, which do you recommed?
    I'll never recommend any of those tutorials for blog making. usually, they're insecure.

    Edited:

    Don't expect us to teach you these things either. You will someday just understand how to use PHP as you learn from those simple silly login tutorials (Never use them they're insecure too)
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  28. Post #188
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    November 2011
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    you have to know php to hate php

    Edited:

    As a question of my own: Which language would you recommend to use instead of PHP if I love PHP's syntax?
    you don't love PHP's syntax, you just don't know any better
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  29. Post #189
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    July 2010
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    you have to know php to hate php
    It's really amazing how people really don't understand that.

    but it's also really annoying when people hate something but just don't know why they hate it.
    i.e. Java sucks... why? IDKKKKKKKKKKKKK THEY ARE SLOWWWW
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  30. Post #190
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    you have to know php to hate php

    Edited:



    you don't love PHP's syntax, you just don't know any better
    I'm not sure how you are trying to make it clearer? YOU HATE PHP. We get it. no one cares, it gets the job done. Some of us actually love PHP for it's simplicity. It has bugs like ANY other language. Could you kindly just stop posting "I hate php" and make an addition to a problem we are either trying to solve or build on a net topic that hasn't been discussed a thousand times over and over. no offence, but it's getting quite old hearing about your sadden stories of php.
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  31. Post #191
    I'm not sure how you are trying to make it clearer? YOU HATE PHP. We get it. no one cares, it gets the job done. Some of us actually love PHP for it's simplicity. It has bugs like ANY other language. Could you kindly just stop posting "I hate php" and make an addition to a problem we are either trying to solve or build on a net topic that hasn't been discussed a thousand times over and over. no offence, but it's getting quite old hearing about your sadden stories of php.
    you are fighting with turb. you won't win
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  32. Post #192

    December 2011
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    I'm not sure how you are trying to make it clearer? YOU HATE PHP. We get it. no one cares, it gets the job done. Some of us actually love PHP for it's simplicity. It has bugs like ANY other language. Could you kindly just stop posting "I hate php" and make an addition to a problem we are either trying to solve or build on a net topic that hasn't been discussed a thousand times over and over. no offence, but it's getting quite old hearing about your sadden stories of php.
    i care actually sir so please calm down
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  33. Post #193
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    July 2010
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    I'm not sure how you are trying to make it clearer? YOU HATE PHP. We get it. no one cares, it gets the job done. Some of us actually love PHP for it's simplicity. It has bugs like ANY other language. Could you kindly just stop posting "I hate php" and make an addition to a problem we are either trying to solve or build on a net topic that hasn't been discussed a thousand times over and over. no offence, but it's getting quite old hearing about your sadden stories of php.
    people do care i think that's why php is still alive. they're trying to fix it. (Hint : They never will )
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  34. Post #194
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    December 2007
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    So when I add the functioning PHP source query class to this document it pushes things down and makes me go through a fuckton of CSS hooha in order to get anything in the right place... and that sucks.

    http://pastebin.com/RJ17GhAg

    Any way to prevent this?

    here is the HTML only version
    http://almost-there.org/beta.html

    No secrets, all source is there.
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  35. Post #195
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    November 2011
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    post SourceQuery.class.php
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  36. Post #196
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    you have to know php to hate php

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    you don't love PHP's syntax, you just don't know any better
    No, I actually do like it. And I love C++'s, C#'s and C's syntaxes too, which are all very similar. And Java's.
    On the other hand, I dislike Python's, Lua's and many others' syntaxes (although Python has a great way of keeping indentations consistent).
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  37. Post #197
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    I also like PHP's syntax and yes, I do know "better" (Java, Python, C#), but I still find PHP's syntax just as good as any other language.
    Seriously turb, I understood your infantility a year ago or two, but seriously dude, it's time for you to grow up and stop being a kid..
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  38. Post #198
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    I also like PHP's syntax and yes, I do know "better" (Java, Python, C#), but I still find PHP's syntax just as good as any other language.
    sorry mate all of those languages except python are c-style just like php

    Edited:

    and python's syntax is... interesting

    Edited:

    not that C-style syntax is bad
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  39. Post #199
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    I'll never recommend any of those tutorials for blog making. usually, they're insecure.

    Edited:

    Don't expect us to teach you these things either. You will someday just understand how to use PHP as you learn from those simple silly login tutorials (Never use them they're insecure too)
    So, then I should learn PHP, thanks for the suggestion! I will do it for my project.

    Edit: w3schools.com?
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  40. Post #200
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    April 2011
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    Don't use w3schools. Use Dochub and Nettuts instead as they're much more informative and accurate. If you want a video series then I'd recommend Diving into PHP.
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