1. Post #121
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    Run&Gun12's Avatar
    May 2007
    3,361 Posts
    Yes. If it was someone I loved, I wouldn't want to deal with the emotional stress of knowing I could've kept them living (had I chosen not to save them).

  2. Post #122
    Of Course i would, I'd pump that bastard with Lead, he would see no mercy.

  3. Post #123
    Casual Bananas
    E X C L's Avatar
    February 2011
    1,715 Posts
    Of Course i would, I'd pump that bastard with Lead, he would see no mercy.
    it's about killing another innocent person instead of having the loved one killed.

  4. Post #124
    Dynex223's Avatar
    November 2007
    628 Posts
    Hell yeah I would

  5. Post #125
    RopaDope's Avatar
    June 2011
    1,000 Posts
    I wouldn't be proud of it, but if it was the love of my life or my mother i'd do it in a heartbeat if there were no other options.

  6. Post #126
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    POLOPOZOZO's Avatar
    May 2006
    14,913 Posts
    nope

  7. Post #127
    Notta's Avatar
    January 2012
    4 Posts
    So the question is "would you rather be responsible for the death of a loved one or the death of a stranger?" How stupid.

  8. Post #128
    Bawbag's Avatar
    December 2011
    530 Posts
    If the person had done something to deserve dying in order to save said loved one, yes.

    For example: Kidnap, rape, ...

    And whether or not I could with limited risk to myself pull off the same rescue without killing the person.

  9. Post #129
    Lertez's Avatar
    October 2008
    1,323 Posts
    Yes. Without question. I wouldn't even feel bad about it either.

  10. Post #130
    I will gladly kill any person causing harm to people who are benevolent.

  11. Post #131
    Bat-shit's Avatar
    October 2010
    12,426 Posts
    More importantly, would YOU DIE to save someone YOU LOVE?

  12. Post #132
    junker|154's Avatar
    August 2010
    6,943 Posts
    I would.

    Actually the father of my ex-girlfriend told me once that if I would crash my car with the girl and I would survive and she would die, he would kill me. And he meant that seriously. I was fucking scared.

    Although I would probably do the same.

  13. Post #133
    Bat-shit's Avatar
    October 2010
    12,426 Posts
    I would.

    Actually the father of my ex-girlfriend told me once that if I would crash my car with the girl and I would survive and she would die, he would kill me. And he meant that seriously. I was fucking scared.

    Although I would probably do the same.
    So your ex's father would just kill any guy that his daughter was with if she died, and that isn't even about saving his own daughter. So that's fucked up.

  14. Post #134
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    pvt.jenkins's Avatar
    May 2010
    6,356 Posts
    no

  15. Post #135
    junker|154's Avatar
    August 2010
    6,943 Posts
    So your ex's father would just kill any guy that his daughter was with if she died, and that isn't even about saving his own daughter. So that's fucked up.
    Her father was weird, he had some crazy connections to some slavic organizations. He was fucking rich and sold cars. He totally had a mafioso look.

  16. Post #136
    Bat-shit's Avatar
    October 2010
    12,426 Posts
    Her father was weird, he had some crazy connections to some slavic organizations. He was fucking rich and sold cars. He totally had a mafioso look.
    Kill him!

  17. Post #137
    Lertez's Avatar
    October 2008
    1,323 Posts
    More importantly, would YOU DIE to save someone YOU LOVE?
    Yes. I would do that as well.

  18. Post #138
    Maybe, it depends on how much I care for that person.

  19. Post #139
    RagerTrader's Avatar
    September 2011
    1,708 Posts
    Maybe, depending on who I had to kill, and how you had to kill them.

    If someone was threatening their life, yes. If i have to choose between him/her and some 5 year old I've never met, No.

    Shooting someone and just "choosing" for them to die makes a difference, too.

  20. Post #140
    Marddox's Avatar
    January 2012
    61 Posts
    Depends on who I kill and who for really..

  21. Post #141
    Behemoth_PT's Avatar
    March 2007
    1,933 Posts
    I've been debating this with my family because criminality has been raising in my country. Things like assaults in the metro and people's homes are tending to happen a lot, and since I have a house in the suburbs and the fact that when me and my parents leave for work (me for uni) leaving the old folks at home (my grandfather, 95yo and aunt 60yo), the house is vulnerable for an assault.

    I currently have an alarm pistol at home and some hunting shotguns, registered as hunting weapons. Problem is we don't have pistols, and according to the law here if the criminal has a pistol and I have a shotgun, if I kill or shoot the man, I go to jail because I had a bigger gun. It's revolting and idiotic! The Portuguese law seems to protect the criminal better than the victim. It's like they prefer a call to the 112(911) to report a dead person than a dead criminal who threatened our lives. Funny thing is that if I manage to catch the criminal legally, in the majority of cases they are just set free on parole...

    If you wanna ask me. I fear the day when some motherfucker steps inside my house with a gun mostly because I will shoot him immediately and go to jail for protecting my own family from death. I'd probably had to clean up the mess and hide the body just not to go to jail and that would haunt me and my family for the rest of my life.

    Now don't get me wrong, I don't believe in life-sentence and death-sentence, I do believe people learn from mistakes. The thing is, I can't sit by while my family has a gun pointed to their heads with the lingering possibility of death or harm in the air. (and this is a last resort)

    People who put other people's lives in danger are no longer functioning under laws or any rules and if one can no longer bring them back, they should be dealt with and the threat contained.

  22. Post #142
    Pvt. Banana's Avatar
    August 2009
    882 Posts
    If they're going to be responsible for my loved one's death, yes.

    If they're innocent, still yes.

    In a situation like this, you're faced with making a choice and considering options. The choice in this case is "Who must die". As terrible as it sounds, I would kill the innocent person because they are of no importance to me. If I don't kill them, then the person who I love and probably hold in great importance, dies (obviously). I care about my loved one more than the innocent person.

  23. Post #143
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    carcarcargo's Avatar
    October 2007
    15,033 Posts
    A necessary evil. Life is much less enjoyable without people you love. That and it's not evil. It can be used for evil things, but love has lead to innovation, creativity, inspiration, culture, etc.
    Killing another to save another to benefit yourself is rather objectivist if I'm honest.

    Edited:

    What if it was like, your son or your daughter or someone like that?

    Edited:



    Do you have emotions? :(
    Love I have no problem with, it's infatuation I have a problem with.

    But no, regardless of who it is I would not kill another person.

  24. Post #144
    SandvichBL's Avatar
    November 2011
    93 Posts
    Yes. I'd simply just drive down to Chattanooga's underpass where all the homeless people live and kill an old one. No one will notice or care.

  25. Post #145
    Der FΓΌhrer
    Quark:'s Avatar
    January 2011
    4,076 Posts
    If I had to, then yes, I would.

    It'd be a slap in the face if someone told me they loved me, and then allowed me to die a death that was preventable.

  26. Post #146
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    nimaratu's Avatar
    March 2009
    1,024 Posts
    Yeah, i'd do it. If my Litte brother and Ma' had guns to their head i'd open fire without a second thought. I wouldn't regret it if it meant saving my Family.

  27. Post #147
    Killed postal with a fart once.
    gk99's Avatar
    December 2007
    7,287 Posts
    Well...depends.
    I mean if some asshat broke into my house and held a gun up to a family member's head, yes. I would probably lethally beat the shit out of them, however, if I had to kill a random guy that had nothing to do with it then probably not.

  28. Post #148
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    TF2Master's Avatar
    December 2010
    1,435 Posts
    no

  29. Post #149
    ampqre's Avatar
    July 2007
    47 Posts
    Yes.
    One life is no more valuable than another.
    So why not kill the one you don't care about to save the one you do?
    In the end the amount of death is unchanged so why not pick death that will make one happy?

  30. Post #150
    Kofi's Avatar
    November 2009
    63 Posts
    If some cracked out maniac had a knife to my best friends throat, it would cross my mind.

  31. Post #151
    EvilZx's Avatar
    July 2009
    551 Posts
    I would have to see the person I would kill. If he is genuinely a good person and did nothing wrong, I would have to think real hard. On the other hand, if the guy I would have to kill is a terrible person and doesn't really function at all in society, I wouldn't hesitate.

    Just me though.

  32. Post #152
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    Zukriuchen's Avatar
    September 2009
    16,666 Posts
    I'd totally do it, but I'd like to know who the person is. I personally wouldn't mind (in that context, it's not like I'd do it right now) killing a random stranger in the street, but I'd have to think about it if I knew something about the person.

  33. Post #153
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    Paravin's Avatar
    November 2007
    9,167 Posts
    I think I would.

  34. Post #154
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    hypno-toad's Avatar
    October 2006
    14,592 Posts
    Yep. If the situation (metaphorically) had "you must kill X person to saved your loved one" above it in big bold letters I don't think I'd hesitate.

    That's not to say that every situation in which loved ones are in danger requires you to use brutal killing force without restraint...


    Life is inherently short, and if somebody chooses to threaten somebody else's life or well-being (especially the life of one of your love ones) then they have brought death upon themselves if death happens. Albeit violence should always be the absolute last resort for any situation.

    Edited:

    Oh, misread. If we're talking a life exchange I think I'd do it. Not that that situation would ever arise.

    It is selfish but somebody would be dying either way and I'd rather it not be a loved one of mine.

  35. Post #155
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    Dennab
    April 2011
    6,395 Posts
    Yes.

  36. Post #156
    Moose's Avatar
    January 2010
    3,065 Posts
    I don't have loved ones.

    But I'd still shoot the guy anyway.

  37. Post #157
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    CommunistCookie's Avatar
    July 2010
    778 Posts
    I'd easily have any number of random strangers killed, innocent or not, if it meant saving my family from death. Selfish as fuck, but I'm honest.

  38. Post #158
    If someone calls you a whore, salute them!
    T-Sonar.0's Avatar
    July 2007
    13,728 Posts
    I would. Sure, I'd be taking the life of someone else who has a family but I'd never be able to live with myself knowing that I let someone I love die. It'd haunt me forever. Even if I was thrown in prison for life for killing someone, it'd be worth it to know the one I love is safe.

    I'd hope that the person I made a widow or a husband and wife who lost their child would understand. I'd even write them a little explaining everything and apologize for what I had done. I don't care if they hate me for it, I just want them to know I'm not a bad person.

  39. Post #159
    Japanese Cerberus
    Dennab
    August 2011
    8,076 Posts
    I would.
    I don't see the big problem in this. I hold no emotional attachment to the stranger, but I do to my loved ones, for example my girlfriend or mother, maybe even father. If saving them would mean killing someone I've never met, so be it. I'd make sure though no other options would be available.

    Now, if I had to kill a loved one to save another, that would be much more complicated.

  40. Post #160
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    Kaios's Avatar
    April 2005
    441 Posts
    I definitely have some people in my life that I would kill for to save.